Date: 16/11/2008 12:23:04
From: Lucky1
ID: 37977
Subject: Getting people to understand "organic"

Yesterday at the shops a lady was plugging away her product for washing fruit and veg, at the local green grocer shop.

I stopped and had a bo-peep at it and she started her spill on the product.

This product washes all (??) pesticides off fruit and veg……

When I said how I have an organic vegie patch and don’t need to use the said item…… she said, …….“It’ll wash them clean”……..I said…..“Don’t use chemicals”………. she said….. “You can wash the dirt off”……….. I said…..“water does this that and then the water can then be tipped into my organic garden. Why would I want to add a chemical to my already chemical free food?”………. she said………..“my hubby used to grow tomatoes”…….. I thought…she’s loosing the fight……….she said……..“my hubby gave away their compost tumbler”……… I said…..“get a new hubby”……. and walk away.

With all the “news” out in newspapers, magazines, TV and radio……..how could someone still not know what organic vegies means?????
Elf has learnt with me, when it comes to the environment and organic food…… promos being plugged in public….. to wander off and come back later and see if I have finished debating the subject…..LOL

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Date: 16/11/2008 12:32:19
From: bluegreen
ID: 37980
Subject: re: Getting people to understand "organic"

ROTFLMAO!

“Greenwashing” as its best!

I have seen these vege washing detergents and I suppose they have their place, but I always figure that even topical use pesticides etc will still go beyond the surface of the fruit and veg so you cannot completely remove them. Growing your own organically is still best! And what’s wrong with a bit of dirt anyway?

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Date: 16/11/2008 12:33:44
From: Lucky1
ID: 37982
Subject: re: Getting people to understand "organic"

bluegreen said:


ROTFLMAO!

“Greenwashing” as its best!

I have seen these vege washing detergents and I suppose they have their place, but I always figure that even topical use pesticides etc will still go beyond the surface of the fruit and veg so you cannot completely remove them. Growing your own organically is still best! And what’s wrong with a bit of dirt anyway?


Yes and green grubs only scream in boiling water for the first 5 seconds if that.

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Date: 16/11/2008 12:45:20
From: roughbarked
ID: 37985
Subject: re: Getting people to understand "organic"

I remember sitting on a train with an “organic” chemist once .. way back when I was an apprentice. She said that the word biodegradable on the packet merely required the chemist to change the number of molecules by one.

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Date: 16/11/2008 12:57:09
From: bon008
ID: 37988
Subject: re: Getting people to understand "organic"

roughbarked said:


I remember sitting on a train with an “organic” chemist once .. way back when I was an apprentice. She said that the word biodegradable on the packet merely required the chemist to change the number of molecules by one.

Yep, there’s a big difference between “biodegradable” and “biodegradable under household composting conditions”. I think there are some certifications now to say that a product will break down in standard compost.

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Date: 16/11/2008 13:19:33
From: roughbarked
ID: 37989
Subject: re: Getting people to understand "organic"

Those of us with septic tanks and constant grey water need to be aware of such things.

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Date: 16/11/2008 13:35:59
From: Dinetta
ID: 37993
Subject: re: Getting people to understand "organic"

roughbarked said:


Those of us with septic tanks and constant grey water need to be aware of such things.

So true, and it was thanks to a former forumite (Shortie? Shortkeeper? – he played Sunday cricket and his wedding photos were taken under this marvellous jacaranda that was not only in full bloom but had a purple carpet of them…) that I was able to switch to a laundry detergent that was low in phosphorus and salts…

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Date: 16/11/2008 14:51:10
From: pepe
ID: 38012
Subject: re: Getting people to understand "organic"

for 10,000 years the only farming / gardening was organic.
in fact it should be just ‘gardening’ and the ‘chemical gardening practices’ should be labelled.

you’re right tho’ – the moment ‘organic’ became trendy it also became misused and misunderstood.

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Date: 16/11/2008 20:24:47
From: aquarium
ID: 38048
Subject: re: Getting people to understand "organic"

i think the latest warm earth article put it well like so:
what organic and biodynamic gardening have most in common is what they leave out….synthetic fertilizers, pesticides etc.

btw i’m toying with the idea of formflows and buying 500 and 501. in fact, i should get some 500 pronto to try, before it becomes summer already…..as the formflows most likely buy much later.

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