Date: 16/03/2016 23:10:46
From: Michael V
ID: 860377
Subject: Browser for Windows XP

I would like suggestions for a new browser for this Windows XP machine.

I’ve been using Chrome for some years now and it was OK, but recently they’ve done some stuff which makes it pretty much unusable with multiple tabs open. (Yes, I know they’ve stopped supporting XP, but what choice do I have with the OS anyway? It’s not like Bill is going to give me Win 10 as I didn’t have Win 7 installed.)

Anyway, recommendations, please.

Reply Quote

Date: 16/03/2016 23:12:00
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 860380
Subject: re: Browser for Windows XP

erm…. you’ve got mail.

Reply Quote

Date: 16/03/2016 23:16:32
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 860384
Subject: re: Browser for Windows XP

i use opera and have no probs with multiple tabs and i like all the options that are available for controlling websites and cookies.

Reply Quote

Date: 16/03/2016 23:20:16
From: Michael V
ID: 860385
Subject: re: Browser for Windows XP

Postpocelipse said:


erm…. you’ve got mail.
bakatya

Reply Quote

Date: 16/03/2016 23:21:10
From: Michael V
ID: 860386
Subject: re: Browser for Windows XP

ChrispenEvan said:


i use opera and have no probs with multiple tabs and i like all the options that are available for controlling websites and cookies.
Are you using it with XP?

I read that it runs the same engine as Chrome.

Reply Quote

Date: 16/03/2016 23:21:19
From: btm
ID: 860387
Subject: re: Browser for Windows XP

I’ve got an older (not updated) version of Chrome, Opera, and firefox on my XP box. The box is small and slow, so it can’t handle updating to W7 or later, but ff seems to be the least worst on it.

Reply Quote

Date: 16/03/2016 23:23:42
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 860388
Subject: re: Browser for Windows XP

yes uses the open source of Chromium which is behind chrome. this is an win 7 XP machine. the lappy is win 10 and that runs opera fine.

Reply Quote

Date: 16/03/2016 23:24:55
From: Michael V
ID: 860390
Subject: re: Browser for Windows XP

btm said:


I’ve got an older (not updated) version of Chrome, Opera, and firefox on my XP box. The box is small and slow, so it can’t handle updating to W7 or later, but ff seems to be the least worst on it.
Cheers.

As an aside, how did you stop Chrome from updating? On mine it just does it and doesn’t even ask.

Reply Quote

Date: 16/03/2016 23:26:26
From: Michael V
ID: 860391
Subject: re: Browser for Windows XP

ChrispenEvan said:


yes uses the open source of Chromium which is behind chrome. this is an win 7 XP machine. the lappy is win 10 and that runs opera fine.
this is an win 7 XP machine

What?

Reply Quote

Date: 16/03/2016 23:26:35
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 860392
Subject: re: Browser for Windows XP

Version: 36.0.2130.32

I have used opera for years and never had a problem.

Reply Quote

Date: 16/03/2016 23:34:48
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 860399
Subject: re: Browser for Windows XP

sorry used to run XP, forgot i upgraded a while ago.

Reply Quote

Date: 16/03/2016 23:36:30
From: Michael V
ID: 860402
Subject: re: Browser for Windows XP

ChrispenEvan said:


sorry used to run XP, forgot i upgraded a while ago.
Ah, cheers.

:)

Reply Quote

Date: 16/03/2016 23:38:51
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 860405
Subject: re: Browser for Windows XP

i got opera after netscape went defunct. never got into IE.

Reply Quote

Date: 16/03/2016 23:40:34
From: sibeen
ID: 860407
Subject: re: Browser for Windows XP

ChrispenEvan said:


i got opera after netscape went defunct. never got into IE.

Hold on…netscape is defunct?

Reply Quote

Date: 16/03/2016 23:43:05
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 860408
Subject: re: Browser for Windows XP

Hold on…netscape is defunct?

according to Alta Vista it is, yes.

Reply Quote

Date: 16/03/2016 23:43:57
From: sibeen
ID: 860409
Subject: re: Browser for Windows XP

ChrispenEvan said:


Hold on…netscape is defunct?

according to Alta Vista it is, yes.

Ask Jeeves begs to differ.

Reply Quote

Date: 16/03/2016 23:48:15
From: Michael V
ID: 860414
Subject: re: Browser for Windows XP

SlimBrowser?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SlimBrowser

http://www.slimbrowser.net/en/

http://www.slimbrowser.net/en/chrome_compare.php

Reply Quote

Date: 16/03/2016 23:55:32
From: btm
ID: 860417
Subject: re: Browser for Windows XP

Michael V said:


btm said:

I’ve got an older (not updated) version of Chrome, Opera, and firefox on my XP box. The box is small and slow, so it can’t handle updating to W7 or later, but ff seems to be the least worst on it.
Cheers.

As an aside, how did you stop Chrome from updating? On mine it just does it and doesn’t even ask.

I can’t remember, but it was something I found online.

Reply Quote

Date: 17/03/2016 00:01:08
From: btm
ID: 860422
Subject: re: Browser for Windows XP

ChrispenEvan said:


i got opera after netscape went defunct. never got into IE.

Netscape? What’s that? I’m still using mosaic.

Reply Quote

Date: 17/03/2016 00:04:57
From: sibeen
ID: 860426
Subject: re: Browser for Windows XP

btm said:


ChrispenEvan said:

i got opera after netscape went defunct. never got into IE.

Netscape? What’s that? I’m still using mosaic.

n00b.

Reply Quote

Date: 17/03/2016 07:15:44
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 860441
Subject: re: Browser for Windows XP

When I was on XP, I was using Firefox.

Reply Quote

Date: 17/03/2016 07:29:40
From: roughbarked
ID: 860442
Subject: re: Browser for Windows XP

you could always try Safari. https://support.apple.com/downloads/Safari_3_2_3_for_Windows

Reply Quote

Date: 17/03/2016 07:34:49
From: roughbarked
ID: 860444
Subject: re: Browser for Windows XP

roughbarked said:


you could always try Safari. https://support.apple.com/downloads/Safari_3_2_3_for_Windows

nah. looks like apple has withdrawn support for older computers.

Reply Quote

Date: 17/03/2016 08:20:56
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 860451
Subject: re: Browser for Windows XP

Opera 12.17. Works well on XP.

Reply Quote

Date: 17/03/2016 08:56:31
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 860453
Subject: re: Browser for Windows XP

Did you know Microsoft have a browser called Internet Explorer?

It works OK. It’s less annoying than any of the alternatives I have tried anyway.

Reply Quote

Date: 17/03/2016 09:02:26
From: roughbarked
ID: 860455
Subject: re: Browser for Windows XP

The Rev Dodgson said:


Did you know Microsoft have a browser called Internet Explorer?

It works OK. It’s less annoying than any of the alternatives I have tried anyway.

Well there you go. I’ve never participated in browser wars as I see that everyone has their own preferences. Getting one that works is usually satisfying enough for most.

Reply Quote

Date: 17/03/2016 09:27:51
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 860460
Subject: re: Browser for Windows XP

The Rev Dodgson said:


Did you know Microsoft have a browser called Internet Explorer?

It works OK. It’s less annoying than any of the alternatives I have tried anyway.

It’s the establishment browser, we don’t use it here thank you very much.

Reply Quote

Date: 17/03/2016 10:01:57
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 860462
Subject: re: Browser for Windows XP

Peak Warming Man said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Did you know Microsoft have a browser called Internet Explorer?

It works OK. It’s less annoying than any of the alternatives I have tried anyway.

It’s the establishment browser, we don’t use it here thank you very much.

I prefer to see it as the inverted alternative browser.

Reply Quote

Date: 17/03/2016 10:20:49
From: Rule 303
ID: 860468
Subject: re: Browser for Windows XP

+1 vote for Firefox.

Reply Quote

Date: 17/03/2016 14:09:25
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 860580
Subject: re: Browser for Windows XP

Hey MV I think I may have another possibly more suitable option. I ‘slightly’ upgraded pc’s recently and still have the old one which is only marginally less powerful than this one discounting the substantial graphics card upgrade that came with the newer machine. I can set that up here with Win10, from which point I understand that a basic license allows you at least 2 installations allowing you to convert your laptop to same.

What say ye?

Reply Quote

Date: 17/03/2016 16:00:09
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 860611
Subject: re: Browser for Windows XP

Postpocelipse said:


Hey MV I think I may have another possibly more suitable option. I ‘slightly’ upgraded pc’s recently and still have the old one which is only marginally less powerful than this one discounting the substantial graphics card upgrade that came with the newer machine. I can set that up here with Win10, from which point I understand that a basic license allows you at least 2-3 installations allowing you to convert your laptop to same.

What say ye?

Reply Quote

Date: 17/03/2016 16:18:43
From: furious
ID: 860613
Subject: re: Browser for Windows XP

How much RAM do you have on that machine? What CPU?

Reply Quote

Date: 17/03/2016 16:32:48
From: Michael V
ID: 860616
Subject: re: Browser for Windows XP

Postpocelipse said:


Postpocelipse said:

Hey MV I think I may have another possibly more suitable option. I ‘slightly’ upgraded pc’s recently and still have the old one which is only marginally less powerful than this one discounting the substantial graphics card upgrade that came with the newer machine. I can set that up here with Win10, from which point I understand that a basic license allows you at least 2-3 installations allowing you to convert your laptop to same.

What say ye?

I’ll pass for the moment. Apart from the browser, there is another issue with this computer. It keeps going to 100% cpu use. Perhaps it is at the end of its life.

I now installed Firefox, which i think works better than Chrome. At least, it seems not to be leaking data all over the place and costing lots of bandwidth.

Reply Quote

Date: 17/03/2016 16:33:52
From: Michael V
ID: 860618
Subject: re: Browser for Windows XP

1Gb RAM. Atom something CPU.

Reply Quote

Date: 17/03/2016 16:40:26
From: Tamb
ID: 860620
Subject: re: Browser for Windows XP

Michael V said:


I would like suggestions for a new browser for this Windows XP machine.

I’ve been using Chrome for some years now and it was OK, but recently they’ve done some stuff which makes it pretty much unusable with multiple tabs open. (Yes, I know they’ve stopped supporting XP, but what choice do I have with the OS anyway? It’s not like Bill is going to give me Win 10 as I didn’t have Win 7 installed.)

Anyway, recommendations, please.


I used Firefox on XP & now on 10. Works fine.

Reply Quote

Date: 17/03/2016 16:46:48
From: furious
ID: 860622
Subject: re: Browser for Windows XP

That is probably all the infections running on your unsupported OS…

Reply Quote

Date: 17/03/2016 16:47:20
From: furious
ID: 860623
Subject: re: Browser for Windows XP

Have you considered a more economical OS?

Reply Quote

Date: 17/03/2016 16:52:20
From: Tamb
ID: 860624
Subject: re: Browser for Windows XP

furious said:

  • It keeps going to 100% cpu use.

That is probably all the infections running on your unsupported OS…


I suppose you’ve defraged & run Defender.

Reply Quote

Date: 17/03/2016 16:55:33
From: Michael V
ID: 860626
Subject: re: Browser for Windows XP

furious said:

  • 1Gb RAM. Atom something CPU.

Have you considered a more economical OS?

I’m open to suggestions, but I am a computer numpty…

Reply Quote

Date: 17/03/2016 16:58:35
From: Michael V
ID: 860628
Subject: re: Browser for Windows XP

Tamb said:


furious said:
  • It keeps going to 100% cpu use.

That is probably all the infections running on your unsupported OS…


I suppose you’ve defraged & run Defender.

I installed an SSD a couple of years back. SSD’s don’t need defragging, and apparently are damaged by defragging. I don’t know what Defender is. I certainly don’t have that program.

Reply Quote

Date: 17/03/2016 17:03:51
From: Tamb
ID: 860632
Subject: re: Browser for Windows XP

Michael V said:


Tamb said:

furious said:
  • It keeps going to 100% cpu use.

That is probably all the infections running on your unsupported OS…


I suppose you’ve defraged & run Defender.

I installed an SSD a couple of years back. SSD’s don’t need defragging, and apparently are damaged by defragging. I don’t know what Defender is. I certainly don’t have that program.


Defender is part of XP
I found this about SSDs: http://www.pcworld.com/article/2047513/fragging-wonderful-the-truth-about-defragging-your-ssd.html

Reply Quote

Date: 17/03/2016 17:06:26
From: furious
ID: 860635
Subject: re: Browser for Windows XP

Plenty of flavours out there that work on lower spec machines, some easier than others, but I have only really had experience with Xubuntu at the lower end and had it working fine on 10+ year old machines. Good enough for most normal, day to day, computer tasks…

Reply Quote

Date: 17/03/2016 18:42:01
From: Michael V
ID: 860650
Subject: re: Browser for Windows XP

Tamb said:


Michael V said:

Tamb said:

I suppose you’ve defraged & run Defender.

I installed an SSD a couple of years back. SSD’s don’t need defragging, and apparently are damaged by defragging. I don’t know what Defender is. I certainly don’t have that program.


Defender is part of XP
I found this about SSDs: http://www.pcworld.com/article/2047513/fragging-wonderful-the-truth-about-defragging-your-ssd.html

From the conclusions to that article:
“ I’m firmly convinced that the tiny difference that even the best SSD defragger makes is not worth reducing the life span of your SSD. Add another voice to the chorus that’s singing “Don’t defrag your SSD.””

Thanks.

So, how do I get to this Defender?

Reply Quote

Date: 17/03/2016 19:00:57
From: wookiemeister
ID: 860655
Subject: re: Browser for Windows XP

mozilla firefox

Reply Quote

Date: 17/03/2016 19:19:02
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 860667
Subject: re: Browser for Windows XP

Netscape continues as Firefox

http://www.blooberry.com/indexdot/history/netscape.htm

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/new/

Reply Quote

Date: 17/03/2016 22:17:58
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 860845
Subject: re: Browser for Windows XP

Just a quick thought. Have you tried a power reboot? If you don’t know that involves shutting down, removing the power source, including laptop battery in the case of your laptop, then pressing the on button to drain the power from the components. Cleans fragments out of the various memory units so rebooting is fresh. Worth a try.

Reply Quote

Date: 17/03/2016 22:19:34
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 860851
Subject: re: Browser for Windows XP

Postpocelipse said:


Just a quick thought. Have you tried a power reboot? If you don’t know that involves shutting down, removing the power source, including laptop battery in the case of your laptop, then pressing the on button to drain the power from the components. Cleans fragments out of the various memory units so rebooting is fresh. Worth a try.

I just did this to mine and the difference in load times is significantly noticeable.

Reply Quote

Date: 17/03/2016 22:24:25
From: Michael V
ID: 860856
Subject: re: Browser for Windows XP

Postpocelipse said:


Just a quick thought. Have you tried a power reboot? If you don’t know that involves shutting down, removing the power source, including laptop battery in the case of your laptop, then pressing the on button to drain the power from the components. Cleans fragments out of the various memory units so rebooting is fresh. Worth a try.
I’ll try that, thanks.

Reply Quote

Date: 17/03/2016 22:37:47
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 860884
Subject: re: Browser for Windows XP

Michael V said:


Postpocelipse said:

Just a quick thought. Have you tried a power reboot? If you don’t know that involves shutting down, removing the power source, including laptop battery in the case of your laptop, then pressing the on button to drain the power from the components. Cleans fragments out of the various memory units so rebooting is fresh. Worth a try.
I’ll try that, thanks.

The way your cpu is going to 100% makes it sound like this is the problem.

Reply Quote