Date: 2/04/2016 20:43:16
From: wookiemeister
ID: 868513
Subject: Russia’s A5V heavy-lift rocket to be ‘ready for lunar missions by 2025’

https://www.rt.com/news/338092-russia-angara-moon-roscosmos/

Russian engineers have presented a prototype of Russia’s most powerful “Angara A5V” heavy-lift rocket that may perform its first manned flight to the Moon by 2030. As RT has learned from the Roscosmos chief the project is proceeding according to schedule. Trends Space exploration

“At the end of February we drew up a preliminary design of a heavy-lift rocket Angara A5V. It is now being reviewed by all relevant research institutes,” the head of Roscosmos Igor Komarov told RT.

The A5V spacecraft would add to Russia’s brand-new Angara rocket family which is based on unified Universal Rocket Modules (URM). Angara has been in development since 1994 and became the first spacecraft family produced entirely after the Soviet era.

Unlike its “siblings” – Angara A5 rockets – Angara A5V is slated to be more efficient and capable of transporting a payload of up 38 tons. While looking quite similar, both featuring one core and four booster URMs as the first stage, due to some upgrades A5V can lift over 10 tons more than Angara A5.

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Date: 2/04/2016 20:45:51
From: dv
ID: 868515
Subject: re: Russia’s A5V heavy-lift rocket to be ‘ready for lunar missions by 2025’

For those of you keeping score at home: Russia (as distinct from the Soviet Union) has had zero successful off-earth missions. Ever.

Zero, nul, none.

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Date: 2/04/2016 20:50:45
From: wookiemeister
ID: 868518
Subject: re: Russia’s A5V heavy-lift rocket to be ‘ready for lunar missions by 2025’

dv said:


For those of you keeping score at home: Russia (as distinct from the Soviet Union) has had zero successful off-earth missions. Ever.

Zero, nul, none.


yet they are the only ones that the US has to use to get to the ISS

the russians have been slow and steady

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Date: 2/04/2016 20:52:00
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 868519
Subject: re: Russia’s A5V heavy-lift rocket to be ‘ready for lunar missions by 2025’

dv said:


For those of you keeping score at home: Russia (as distinct from the Soviet Union) has had zero successful off-earth missions. Ever.

Zero, nul, none.

How many have they attempted?

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Date: 2/04/2016 20:52:42
From: dv
ID: 868520
Subject: re: Russia’s A5V heavy-lift rocket to be ‘ready for lunar missions by 2025’

wookiemeister said:


dv said:

For those of you keeping score at home: Russia (as distinct from the Soviet Union) has had zero successful off-earth missions. Ever.

Zero, nul, none.


yet they are the only ones that the US has to use to get to the ISS

the russians have been slow and steady

That’s like a bus to Kmart.

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Date: 2/04/2016 20:53:54
From: wookiemeister
ID: 868522
Subject: re: Russia’s A5V heavy-lift rocket to be ‘ready for lunar missions by 2025’

dv said:


wookiemeister said:

dv said:

For those of you keeping score at home: Russia (as distinct from the Soviet Union) has had zero successful off-earth missions. Ever.

Zero, nul, none.


yet they are the only ones that the US has to use to get to the ISS

the russians have been slow and steady

That’s like a bus to Kmart.


yet the yanks have to take that bus if they want to get into space – they also have to buy russian rocket engines to do it

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Date: 2/04/2016 20:59:13
From: dv
ID: 868523
Subject: re: Russia’s A5V heavy-lift rocket to be ‘ready for lunar missions by 2025’

Witty Rejoinder said:


dv said:

For those of you keeping score at home: Russia (as distinct from the Soviet Union) has had zero successful off-earth missions. Ever.

Zero, nul, none.

How many have they attempted?

two

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Date: 2/04/2016 21:20:16
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 868535
Subject: re: Russia’s A5V heavy-lift rocket to be ‘ready for lunar missions by 2025’

Witty Rejoinder said:


dv said:

For those of you keeping score at home: Russia (as distinct from the Soviet Union) has had zero successful off-earth missions. Ever.

Zero, nul, none.

How many have they attempted?

The GFC stuffed the US space programme, they stepped back and cut NASA funding and rightly so, it’s all about priorities.
The’ll come back, their space efforts are always top shelf, their mars missions are a testimony to that.

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Date: 2/04/2016 22:13:13
From: Jing Joh
ID: 868548
Subject: re: Russia’s A5V heavy-lift rocket to be ‘ready for lunar missions by 2025’

dv said:

off-earth mission

What does that mean?

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Date: 2/04/2016 22:35:48
From: AwesomeO
ID: 868549
Subject: re: Russia’s A5V heavy-lift rocket to be ‘ready for lunar missions by 2025’

Jing Joh said:


dv said:
off-earth mission

What does that mean?

Going into space probably.

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Date: 2/04/2016 22:48:55
From: dv
ID: 868554
Subject: re: Russia’s A5V heavy-lift rocket to be ‘ready for lunar missions by 2025’

Jing Joh said:


dv said:
off-earth mission

What does that mean?

It means missions to the moon, to a planet other than earth or one of that planet’s moons, to an asteroid, to Pluto or another KBO or Scattered Disk object, to a comet, to the sun, basically to some target other than Earth..Hence … off … Earth.

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Date: 2/04/2016 23:09:13
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 868563
Subject: re: Russia’s A5V heavy-lift rocket to be ‘ready for lunar missions by 2025’

dv said:


For those of you keeping score at home: Russia (as distinct from the Soviet Union) has had zero successful off-earth missions. Ever.

Zero, nul, none.


Omg. I hadn’t realised that. I only knew that Russia+USSR had extremely bad luck on every single mars mission.

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Date: 3/04/2016 00:01:24
From: wookiemeister
ID: 868601
Subject: re: Russia’s A5V heavy-lift rocket to be ‘ready for lunar missions by 2025’

i’m seeing russia going back to sending a few recon missions around the moon

landing something on the moon

a manned flyby and then descent to the surface

you never know with the russians, they might have a few missions where they are in orbit around the moon for a few days perhaps

i’m seeing that they might even extend the odd tourist to these missions

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Date: 3/04/2016 13:28:07
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 868706
Subject: re: Russia’s A5V heavy-lift rocket to be ‘ready for lunar missions by 2025’

dv said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

dv said:

For those of you keeping score at home: Russia (as distinct from the Soviet Union) has had zero successful off-earth missions. Ever.

Zero, nul, none.

How many have they attempted?

two


Checking web. I don’t see any. The phobos probes were launched in 1988, before the USSR broke up. After breakup, funds died and all scientific work was off the agenda until 2005. After 2005, scientific work was reestablished, but only for near Earth. Scientific work after 2005 included ISS, radio astronomy, bioscience, weather. A gamma ray and UV telescope are planned.

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Date: 3/04/2016 14:25:12
From: dv
ID: 868720
Subject: re: Russia’s A5V heavy-lift rocket to be ‘ready for lunar missions by 2025’

mollwollfumble said:


dv said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

How many have they attempted?

two


Checking web. I don’t see any.

Mars 96
Phobos-Grunt

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Date: 3/04/2016 16:49:09
From: Jing Joh
ID: 868760
Subject: re: Russia’s A5V heavy-lift rocket to be ‘ready for lunar missions by 2025’

dv said:

It means missions to the moon, to a planet other than earth or one of that planet’s moons, to an asteroid, to Pluto or another KBO or Scattered Disk object, to a comet, to the sun, basically to some target other than Earth..Hence … off … Earth.

Fair enough, I just wondered why the ISS is not considered off Earth.

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Date: 3/04/2016 16:55:47
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 868761
Subject: re: Russia’s A5V heavy-lift rocket to be ‘ready for lunar missions by 2025’

Jing Joh said:


dv said:
It means missions to the moon, to a planet other than earth or one of that planet’s moons, to an asteroid, to Pluto or another KBO or Scattered Disk object, to a comet, to the sun, basically to some target other than Earth..Hence … off … Earth.

Fair enough, I just wondered why the ISS is not considered off Earth.

Its within the gravitational pull of Earth

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Date: 3/04/2016 16:57:47
From: SCIENCE
ID: 868762
Subject: re: Russia’s A5V heavy-lift rocket to be ‘ready for lunar missions by 2025’

so is the sun

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Date: 3/04/2016 16:57:57
From: jjjust moi
ID: 868763
Subject: re: Russia’s A5V heavy-lift rocket to be ‘ready for lunar missions by 2025’

CrazyNeutrino said:


Jing Joh said:

dv said:
It means missions to the moon, to a planet other than earth or one of that planet’s moons, to an asteroid, to Pluto or another KBO or Scattered Disk object, to a comet, to the sun, basically to some target other than Earth..Hence … off … Earth.

Fair enough, I just wondered why the ISS is not considered off Earth.

Its within the gravitational pull of Earth


So is the moon, is it not?

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Date: 3/04/2016 17:12:38
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 868765
Subject: re: Russia’s A5V heavy-lift rocket to be ‘ready for lunar missions by 2025’

jjjust moi said:


CrazyNeutrino said:

Jing Joh said:

Fair enough, I just wondered why the ISS is not considered off Earth.

Its within the gravitational pull of Earth


So is the moon, is it not?

The moon is moving away from Earth, moving away from us at a rate of 3.78 centimeters (1.5 inches) per year.

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Date: 3/04/2016 17:17:13
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 868767
Subject: re: Russia’s A5V heavy-lift rocket to be ‘ready for lunar missions by 2025’

SCIENCE said:


so is the sun

The sun has a small gravitational pull on Earth

, the gravitational pull of the sun is only 0.0006 of the strength of the earth’s gravity on the surface of the earth. But that’s enough to pull the entire planet around in a big, nearly circular orbit, once per year.

https://van.physics.illinois.edu/qa/listing.php?id=184

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Date: 3/04/2016 17:23:52
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 868768
Subject: re: Russia’s A5V heavy-lift rocket to be ‘ready for lunar missions by 2025’

I presume the Sun has a similar pull on the moon

the moon is moving away from Earth,

http://www.universetoday.com/116158/why-doesnt-the-sun-steal-the-moon/
https://in.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20091027220812AAq4kPA

a question

When is the moon going to stop moving away from Earth?

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Date: 3/04/2016 17:24:55
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 868769
Subject: re: Russia’s A5V heavy-lift rocket to be ‘ready for lunar missions by 2025’

The moon is moving away from Earth, moving away from us at a rate of 3.78 centimeters (1.5 inches) per year.

and it would be moving away a damn lot quicker if it wasn’t in the gravitational pull of the earth.

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Date: 3/04/2016 17:27:56
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 868770
Subject: re: Russia’s A5V heavy-lift rocket to be ‘ready for lunar missions by 2025’

When is the moon going to stop moving away from Earth?

until the time when the earth is no longer around.

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Date: 3/04/2016 17:27:59
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 868771
Subject: re: Russia’s A5V heavy-lift rocket to be ‘ready for lunar missions by 2025’

ChrispenEvan said:


The moon is moving away from Earth, moving away from us at a rate of 3.78 centimeters (1.5 inches) per year.

and it would be moving away a damn lot quicker if it wasn’t in the gravitational pull of the earth.

the sun has a pull on the moon which would slow its movement away from Earth

is the speed of the moon enough to break free of the Suns Pull?

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Date: 3/04/2016 17:35:49
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 868773
Subject: re: Russia’s A5V heavy-lift rocket to be ‘ready for lunar missions by 2025’

is the speed of the moon enough to break free of the Suns Pull?

what do you think?

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Date: 3/04/2016 17:37:57
From: stumpy_seahorse
ID: 868774
Subject: re: Russia’s A5V heavy-lift rocket to be ‘ready for lunar missions by 2025’

ChrispenEvan said:


is the speed of the moon enough to break free of the Suns Pull?

what do you think?

think?

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Date: 3/04/2016 17:43:18
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 868776
Subject: re: Russia’s A5V heavy-lift rocket to be ‘ready for lunar missions by 2025’

ChrispenEvan said:


is the speed of the moon enough to break free of the Suns Pull?

what do you think?

Id say no, but at some point the moon should slow down and settle into its orbit

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Date: 6/04/2016 11:23:54
From: Obviousman
ID: 870064
Subject: re: Russia’s A5V heavy-lift rocket to be ‘ready for lunar missions by 2025’

The Russian funding for the manned space programme has been cut back. The plan calls for a manned lunar landing by 2030 but the current funding only covers initial studies and work on a ‘super heavy’ launch vehicle. The bulk of the work – and funding – isn’t within the scope of the 10 year plan.

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