Date: 25/04/2016 19:20:03
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 880146
Subject: This power station can harvest kinetic wave energy

This power station can harvest kinetic wave energy and turn it into electricity

someone should design a large container ship that could power itself using wave walking

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Date: 25/04/2016 19:56:03
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 880189
Subject: re: This power station can harvest kinetic wave energy

CrazyNeutrino said:


This power station can harvest kinetic wave energy and turn it into electricity

someone should design a large container ship that could power itself using wave walking

Wave power schemes have been around for ever.

Remember the nodding ducks?

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Date: 25/04/2016 19:59:27
From: sibeen
ID: 880193
Subject: re: This power station can harvest kinetic wave energy

The problem with these schemes is that they appear to be quite brilliant. Then engineering constraints come into play. Corrosion takes effect, and the whole thing falls into the sea after a few years.

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Date: 25/04/2016 20:00:57
From: diddly-squat
ID: 880197
Subject: re: This power station can harvest kinetic wave energy

sibeen said:


The problem with these schemes is that they appear to be quite brilliant. Then engineering constraints come into play. Corrosion takes effect, and the whole thing falls into the sea after a few years.

some engineer you are… just build the whole thing from titanium and stainless steel

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Date: 25/04/2016 20:06:29
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 880202
Subject: re: This power station can harvest kinetic wave energy

wonder if we can convert and deorbit the ISS ….

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Date: 25/04/2016 20:16:50
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 880213
Subject: re: This power station can harvest kinetic wave energy

diddly-squat said:


sibeen said:

The problem with these schemes is that they appear to be quite brilliant. Then engineering constraints come into play. Corrosion takes effect, and the whole thing falls into the sea after a few years.

some engineer you are… just build the whole thing from titanium and stainless steel

and Aluminum it does not corrode either and a few others

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Date: 25/04/2016 20:22:51
From: Michael V
ID: 880216
Subject: re: This power station can harvest kinetic wave energy

CrazyNeutrino said:


diddly-squat said:

sibeen said:

The problem with these schemes is that they appear to be quite brilliant. Then engineering constraints come into play. Corrosion takes effect, and the whole thing falls into the sea after a few years.

some engineer you are… just build the whole thing from titanium and stainless steel

and Aluminum it does not corrode either and a few others

You have no experience with Al in a salty environment, I take it. Wouldn’t last weeks.

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Date: 25/04/2016 20:25:42
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 880218
Subject: re: This power station can harvest kinetic wave energy

I think one could be built and tested

maybe a whole lot of designs could be considered

instead of groups of people rowing boats

a set of walking wave energy pumps

and generating gigawatts of power

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Date: 25/04/2016 20:26:42
From: sibeen
ID: 880220
Subject: re: This power station can harvest kinetic wave energy

CrazyNeutrino said:


diddly-squat said:

sibeen said:

The problem with these schemes is that they appear to be quite brilliant. Then engineering constraints come into play. Corrosion takes effect, and the whole thing falls into the sea after a few years.

some engineer you are… just build the whole thing from titanium and stainless steel

and Aluminum it does not corrode either and a few others

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

sorry, but HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

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Date: 25/04/2016 20:28:18
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 880222
Subject: re: This power station can harvest kinetic wave energy

Michael V said:


CrazyNeutrino said:

diddly-squat said:

some engineer you are… just build the whole thing from titanium and stainless steel

and Aluminum it does not corrode either and a few others

You have no experience with Al in a salty environment, I take it. Wouldn’t last weeks.

in the presence of other metals

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Date: 25/04/2016 20:33:29
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 880225
Subject: re: This power station can harvest kinetic wave energy

http://www.rocksaltboats.com/education/chapter-4-the-big-three

http://www.aluminiumdesign.net/design-support/aluminium-corrosion-resistance/

http://www.duroboat.com/experience/AluminumBoatsandCorrossion.htm

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Date: 25/04/2016 20:45:26
From: Michael V
ID: 880230
Subject: re: This power station can harvest kinetic wave energy

I grant that using sacrificial anodes (eg Zn) improves Al’s corrosion resistance.

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Date: 25/04/2016 22:55:45
From: wookiemeister
ID: 880311
Subject: re: This power station can harvest kinetic wave energy

plastic

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Date: 26/04/2016 05:50:25
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 880368
Subject: re: This power station can harvest kinetic wave energy

CrazyNeutrino said:


This power station can harvest kinetic wave energy and turn it into electricity

someone should design a large container ship that could power itself using wave walking


It’s been done. The design I mean.

An Australian designer that I worked with has designed a special aerofoil that provides motive power in one direction given the circular motion of water particles in waves which exert pressure in all directions. Think of it as like the wave-power equivalent of the diode in electronics.

He demonstrated this by installing it on a model container ship.

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Date: 26/04/2016 14:40:37
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 880505
Subject: re: This power station can harvest kinetic wave energy

Michael V said:


I grant that using sacrificial anodes (eg Zn) improves Al’s corrosion resistance.

Aluminium tinnies? I’ve never seen one of them corroding visibly. Sacrificial anodes? Surely not?

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Date: 26/04/2016 15:16:31
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 880520
Subject: re: This power station can harvest kinetic wave energy

Postpocelipse said:


Michael V said:

I grant that using sacrificial anodes (eg Zn) improves Al’s corrosion resistance.

Aluminium tinnies? I’ve never seen one of them corroding visibly. Sacrificial anodes? Surely not?

Cathodic protection
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathodic_protection

https://www.google.com.au/search?q=Cathodic+protection

https://www.google.com.au/search?q=Cathodic+protection&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=

Sacrificial anodes
http://chemwiki.ucdavis.edu/Core/Analytical_Chemistry/Electrochemistry/Case_Studies/Corrosion/Sacrificial_Anode

Galvanic anode
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galvanic_anode

Sacrificial anodes
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=Sacrificial+anodes&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=

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Date: 26/04/2016 15:18:13
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 880521
Subject: re: This power station can harvest kinetic wave energy

Cathodic protection
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathodic_protection

Cathodic protection (CP) is a technique used to control the corrosion of a metal surface by making it the cathode of an electrochemical cell. A simple method of protection connects the metal to be protected to a more easily corroded “sacrificial metal” to act as the anode. The sacrificial metal then corrodes instead of the protected metal. For structures such as long pipelines, where passive galvanic cathodic protection is not adequate, an external DC electrical power source is used to provide sufficient current.

Cathodic protection systems protect a wide range of metallic structures in various environments. Common applications are: steel water or fuel pipelines and steel storage tanks such as home water heaters; steel pier piles; ship and boat hulls; offshore oil platforms and onshore oil well casings; offshore wind farm foundations and metal reinforcement bars in concrete buildings and structures. Another common application is in galvanized steel, in which a sacrificial coating of zinc on steel parts protects them from rust.

Cathodic protection can, in some cases, prevent stress corrosion cracking.

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Date: 26/04/2016 15:19:16
From: dv
ID: 880522
Subject: re: This power station can harvest kinetic wave energy

CrazyNeutrino said:


Cathodic protection
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathodic_protection

Cathodic protection (CP) is a technique used to control the corrosion of a metal surface by making it the cathode of an electrochemical cell. A simple method of protection connects the metal to be protected to a more easily corroded “sacrificial metal” to act as the anode. The sacrificial metal then corrodes instead of the protected metal. For structures such as long pipelines, where passive galvanic cathodic protection is not adequate, an external DC electrical power source is used to provide sufficient current.

Cathodic protection systems protect a wide range of metallic structures in various environments. Common applications are: steel water or fuel pipelines and steel storage tanks such as home water heaters; steel pier piles; ship and boat hulls; offshore oil platforms and onshore oil well casings; offshore wind farm foundations and metal reinforcement bars in concrete buildings and structures. Another common application is in galvanized steel, in which a sacrificial coating of zinc on steel parts protects them from rust.

Cathodic protection can, in some cases, prevent stress corrosion cracking.

No mention of aluminium there.

Cathodic protection is normally used for steel vessels.

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Date: 26/04/2016 15:24:46
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 880530
Subject: re: This power station can harvest kinetic wave energy

dv said:


CrazyNeutrino said:

Cathodic protection
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathodic_protection

Cathodic protection (CP) is a technique used to control the corrosion of a metal surface by making it the cathode of an electrochemical cell. A simple method of protection connects the metal to be protected to a more easily corroded “sacrificial metal” to act as the anode. The sacrificial metal then corrodes instead of the protected metal. For structures such as long pipelines, where passive galvanic cathodic protection is not adequate, an external DC electrical power source is used to provide sufficient current.

Cathodic protection systems protect a wide range of metallic structures in various environments. Common applications are: steel water or fuel pipelines and steel storage tanks such as home water heaters; steel pier piles; ship and boat hulls; offshore oil platforms and onshore oil well casings; offshore wind farm foundations and metal reinforcement bars in concrete buildings and structures. Another common application is in galvanized steel, in which a sacrificial coating of zinc on steel parts protects them from rust.

Cathodic protection can, in some cases, prevent stress corrosion cracking.

No mention of aluminium there.

Cathodic protection is normally used for steel vessels.

its mentioned further down in a table
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathodic_protection

another article
http://www.cathodicdiecasting.com.au/corrosion-and-cathodic-protection.php

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Date: 26/04/2016 16:56:37
From: wookiemeister
ID: 880564
Subject: re: This power station can harvest kinetic wave energy

dv said:


CrazyNeutrino said:

Cathodic protection
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathodic_protection

Cathodic protection (CP) is a technique used to control the corrosion of a metal surface by making it the cathode of an electrochemical cell. A simple method of protection connects the metal to be protected to a more easily corroded “sacrificial metal” to act as the anode. The sacrificial metal then corrodes instead of the protected metal. For structures such as long pipelines, where passive galvanic cathodic protection is not adequate, an external DC electrical power source is used to provide sufficient current.

Cathodic protection systems protect a wide range of metallic structures in various environments. Common applications are: steel water or fuel pipelines and steel storage tanks such as home water heaters; steel pier piles; ship and boat hulls; offshore oil platforms and onshore oil well casings; offshore wind farm foundations and metal reinforcement bars in concrete buildings and structures. Another common application is in galvanized steel, in which a sacrificial coating of zinc on steel parts protects them from rust.

Cathodic protection can, in some cases, prevent stress corrosion cracking.

No mention of aluminium there.

Cathodic protection is normally used for steel vessels.


to my knowledge yes

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Date: 26/04/2016 17:31:12
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 880572
Subject: re: This power station can harvest kinetic wave energy

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Date: 26/04/2016 17:33:12
From: Cymek
ID: 880573
Subject: re: This power station can harvest kinetic wave energy

Postpocelipse said:



Is that an exorcism kit ?
Thought they’d have an app for that now

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Date: 26/04/2016 17:35:37
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 880574
Subject: re: This power station can harvest kinetic wave energy

Cymek said:


Postpocelipse said:

!http://vamped.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/30803918_1_x.jpg

Is that an exorcism kit ?
Thought they’d have an app for that now

Vampire hunting kit. If the christ figures are gold then it’s catholic protection as well as cathodic

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Date: 26/04/2016 17:41:12
From: AwesomeO
ID: 880575
Subject: re: This power station can harvest kinetic wave energy

That case and its fittings look s bit taccy. Even the way they are stored is a bit dodgy.

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Date: 26/04/2016 17:42:06
From: Cymek
ID: 880576
Subject: re: This power station can harvest kinetic wave energy

Postpocelipse said:


Cymek said:

Postpocelipse said:

!http://vamped.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/30803918_1_x.jpg

Is that an exorcism kit ?
Thought they’d have an app for that now

Vampire hunting kit. If the christ figures are gold then it’s catholic protection as well as cathodic

Silly me, looking closer it does look like a vampire hunting kit, its pretty damn cool

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Date: 26/04/2016 17:44:36
From: Cymek
ID: 880578
Subject: re: This power station can harvest kinetic wave energy

AwesomeO said:


That case and its fittings look s bit taccy. Even the way they are stored is a bit dodgy.

It would look better if everything fitted snuggly into cut out holes

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