Date: 30/04/2016 13:12:04
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 882474
Subject: Give way to the right-Exception to the rule?
At a T-intersection, when a vehicle is turning right from the terminating road, I have found that vehicles travelling from it’s left on the through road invariably ignore the give way to the right rule and turn right into the intersecting road when the vehicle turning out of the terminating road has right of way.
Is this simply to be ignored or should it be defined as an exception to give way to the right?
Date: 30/04/2016 13:17:16
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 882481
Subject: re: Give way to the right-Exception to the rule?
Postpocelipse said:
At a T-intersection, when a vehicle is turning right from the terminating road, I have found that vehicles travelling from it’s left on the through road invariably ignore the give way to the right rule and turn right into the intersecting road when the vehicle turning out of the terminating road has right of way.
Is this simply to be ignored or should it be defined as an exception to give way to the right?
Which state?
In NSW through traffic at a T intersection has right of way, both for straight ahead and right turns.
In other states, I don’t know.
Date: 30/04/2016 13:18:45
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 882482
Subject: re: Give way to the right-Exception to the rule?
The Rev Dodgson said:
Postpocelipse said:
At a T-intersection, when a vehicle is turning right from the terminating road, I have found that vehicles travelling from it’s left on the through road invariably ignore the give way to the right rule and turn right into the intersecting road when the vehicle turning out of the terminating road has right of way.
Is this simply to be ignored or should it be defined as an exception to give way to the right?
Which state?
In NSW through traffic at a T intersection has right of way, both for straight ahead and right turns.
In other states, I don’t know.
That may be what I missed.
Date: 30/04/2016 13:18:52
From: jjjust moi
ID: 882483
Subject: re: Give way to the right-Exception to the rule?
Postpocelipse said:
At a T-intersection, when a vehicle is turning right from the terminating road, I have found that vehicles travelling from it’s left on the through road invariably ignore the give way to the right rule and turn right into the intersecting road when the vehicle turning out of the terminating road has right of way.
Is this simply to be ignored or should it be defined as an exception to give way to the right?
Don’t know what it’s like in your neck of the woods, but here all traffic entering a t junction gives way to all traffic.
Date: 30/04/2016 13:19:02
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 882484
Subject: re: Give way to the right-Exception to the rule?
terminating road gives way to everything in WA i believe.
Date: 30/04/2016 13:19:56
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 882486
Subject: re: Give way to the right-Exception to the rule?
ChrispenEvan said:
terminating road gives way to everything in WA i believe.
Yes I have been reminded it is already an exception to the rule.
Date: 30/04/2016 13:20:18
From: stumpy_seahorse
ID: 882487
Subject: re: Give way to the right-Exception to the rule?
ChrispenEvan said:
terminating road gives way to everything in WA i believe.
ditto in SA, in Tas, you just give way to whatever is bigger than you…
Date: 30/04/2016 13:21:07
From: buffy
ID: 882488
Subject: re: Give way to the right-Exception to the rule?
Usually the terminating road will have a Give Way or Stop sign to deal with.
Date: 30/04/2016 13:22:51
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 882489
Subject: re: Give way to the right-Exception to the rule?
From rms.nsw:
At T intersections the vehicle travelling on the road that ends must give way to any pedestrians crossing or vehicles travelling on the road that continues unless otherwise signposted.
Date: 30/04/2016 13:24:52
From: buffy
ID: 882492
Subject: re: Give way to the right-Exception to the rule?
For Victoria:
T-intersections
When turning at a T-intersection from the road that ends, you must you must give way to all vehicles travelling in the road you are turning into (the continuing road).
At some T-intersections the continuing road goes around a corner rather than straight. The road that ends is marked by a line in the centre of the road and Give Way or Stop signs or lines. If you are facing the stop or give way signs or lines you must give way to all vehicles on the continuing road.
Date: 30/04/2016 13:26:10
From: btm
ID: 882493
Subject: re: Give way to the right-Exception to the rule?
Additionally, “right of way” is explicitly disclaimed in the road rules: nobody has “right of way”, but vehicles are required to give way to others in certain circumstances. If someone doesn’t give way when they’re supposed to, other drivers are required to give way to them.
Date: 30/04/2016 13:33:44
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 882494
Subject: re: Give way to the right-Exception to the rule?
Do bicycle riders need to give way to pedestrians?
Date: 30/04/2016 13:35:04
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 882496
Subject: re: Give way to the right-Exception to the rule?
Peak Warming Man said:
Do bicycle riders need to give way to pedestrians?
Yes.
Date: 30/04/2016 13:36:04
From: btm
ID: 882497
Subject: re: Give way to the right-Exception to the rule?
Peak Warming Man said:
Do bicycle riders need to give way to pedestrians?
Yes. And pedestrians need to give way to cyclists.
Date: 30/04/2016 13:36:46
From: btm
ID: 882498
Subject: re: Give way to the right-Exception to the rule?
btm said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Do bicycle riders need to give way to pedestrians?
Yes. And pedestrians need to give way to cyclists.
*unless the cyclist is called Arts.
Date: 30/04/2016 15:16:47
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 882513
Subject: re: Give way to the right-Exception to the rule?
Agree with the above. The “Tee intersection rule” is relatively recent in some states. It didn’t exist when I was going for my drivers licence many years ago. I was around when it was introduced into NSW for the first time. And a good thing too, the old give way to the right rule was extremely dangerous at Tee intersections.
Date: 30/04/2016 15:38:28
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 882517
Subject: re: Give way to the right-Exception to the rule?
mollwollfumble said:
Agree with the above. The “Tee intersection rule” is relatively recent in some states. It didn’t exist when I was going for my drivers licence many years ago. I was around when it was introduced into NSW for the first time. And a good thing too, the old give way to the right rule was extremely dangerous at Tee intersections.
It is good to note the current arrangement was not always the case.
Date: 30/04/2016 15:57:58
From: Michael V
ID: 882539
Subject: re: Give way to the right-Exception to the rule?
mollwollfumble said:
Agree with the above. The “Tee intersection rule” is relatively recent in some states. It didn’t exist when I was going for my drivers licence many years ago. I was around when it was introduced into NSW for the first time. And a good thing too, the old give way to the right rule was extremely dangerous at Tee intersections.
https://www.qld.gov.au/transport/safety/rules/road/give-way/index.html
Giving way at a T-intersection
If you’re driving on a road that ends at a T-intersection, you must give way to all vehicles—except those doing a U-turn—travelling on the road continuing through the intersection.
In this example, Vehicle A (blue) must give way to Vehicle B (green).

Date: 30/04/2016 18:56:00
From: fsm
ID: 882589
Subject: re: Give way to the right-Exception to the rule?
There is a T-intersection near here (Central Coast, NSW) where both arms of the continuing road face stop signs and the terminating road has right of way. Go figure…
(there are also a bazillion round-abouts on the Central Coast)
Date: 30/04/2016 18:57:58
From: stumpy_seahorse
ID: 882591
Subject: re: Give way to the right-Exception to the rule?
fsm said:
(there are also a bazillion round-abouts on the Central Coast)
lucky… because i can see a brazillion roundabout causing some accidents…