It is understood early civilization was split between herders and agriculturalists. It was noted by River Phoenix’s character in Runnin On Empty that “you can’t dance to Beethoven”, implying that classical music did not stick to a beat or have a significant back beat. This leads to an observation regarding the formation of rock and roll beat. China has largely been a similarly agricultural based civilization with a basic style of music lacking any particular value for a steady beat.

A herder will become accustomed to the steady clip-clopping of their herds hooves and herder military have had significant success in empirical campaigns. The Roman army on the march may have been the first significant experience with a maintained tempo european senses may have encountered but that beat is somewhat lacking in the back beat a herder might become familiar with in the tread of many goats or the thunder of war hooves in a charge.

This implies there are two main psyches available to the contemporary human condition. One which values the freedom of creativity in marching to one’s own beat and another that appreciates the irreplaceable complexity of unitive cooperation.

Does this analysis provide greater functionality to the debate between conservative and liberal politics than the seemingly rhetorical and singular argument in regards economic reasoning?

>This implies there are two main psyches available to the contemporary human condition. One which values the freedom of creativity in marching to one’s own beat and another that appreciates the irreplaceable complexity of unitive cooperation.

me positronic matrix
did come across a dichotomous proposition
and in there ‘mongst
were an either/or this or that relative position
ol’ he thought ‘bout it
done wrote’t poem regards’n‘s still wonderin’
by hoodoo osmotics
later an answer emerge’n light bulb’ll turn on

transition said:

>This implies there are two main psyches available to the contemporary human condition. One which values the freedom of creativity in marching to one’s own beat and another that appreciates the irreplaceable complexity of unitive cooperation.

me positronic matrix
did come across a dichotomous proposition
and in there ‘mongst
were an either/or this or that relative position
ol’ he thought ‘bout it
done wrote’t poem regards’n‘s still wonderin’
by hoodoo osmotics
later an answer emerge’n light bulb’ll turn on

There was a lot of music before Beethoven. I think your entire summation is incorrect. You only need look to stone-age societies to appreciate that.

PermeateFree said:

transition said:

>This implies there are two main psyches available to the contemporary human condition. One which values the freedom of creativity in marching to one’s own beat and another that appreciates the irreplaceable complexity of unitive cooperation.

me positronic matrix
did come across a dichotomous proposition
and in there ‘mongst
were an either/or this or that relative position
ol’ he thought ‘bout it
done wrote’t poem regards’n‘s still wonderin’
by hoodoo osmotics
later an answer emerge’n light bulb’ll turn on

There was a lot of music before Beethoven. I think your entire summation is incorrect. You only need look to stone-age societies to appreciate that.

that is one of transition’s more funky efforts

PermeateFree said:

transition said:

>This implies there are two main psyches available to the contemporary human condition. One which values the freedom of creativity in marching to one’s own beat and another that appreciates the irreplaceable complexity of unitive cooperation.

me positronic matrix
did come across a dichotomous proposition
and in there ‘mongst
were an either/or this or that relative position
ol’ he thought ‘bout it
done wrote’t poem regards’n‘s still wonderin’
by hoodoo osmotics
later an answer emerge’n light bulb’ll turn on

There was a lot of music before Beethoven. I think your entire summation is incorrect. You only need look to stone-age societies to appreciate that.

Stone age cultures went their different paths did they not? I tried to start from about there with the left/right political agenda and followed the relationship between herders and agriculturalists. This is where the mid-east cultures still find fault between their different denominations and has only been expanded upon in agenda by western capitalist political agenda.

I mostly thought I’d ask an AC/DC referenced question as it looks like their days are numbered with the loss of BJ.

CrazyNeutrino said:

PermeateFree said:

transition said:

>This implies there are two main psyches available to the contemporary human condition. One which values the freedom of creativity in marching to one’s own beat and another that appreciates the irreplaceable complexity of unitive cooperation.

me positronic matrix
did come across a dichotomous proposition
and in there ‘mongst
were an either/or this or that relative position
ol’ he thought ‘bout it
done wrote’t poem regards’n‘s still wonderin’
by hoodoo osmotics
later an answer emerge’n light bulb’ll turn on

There was a lot of music before Beethoven. I think your entire summation is incorrect. You only need look to stone-age societies to appreciate that.

that is one of transition’s more funky efforts

Coincicidinkly the precedent my Barrister had set involved duplicitous nature of charges.

Postpocelipse said:

PermeateFree said:

transition said:

>This implies there are two main psyches available to the contemporary human condition. One which values the freedom of creativity in marching to one’s own beat and another that appreciates the irreplaceable complexity of unitive cooperation.

me positronic matrix
did come across a dichotomous proposition
and in there ‘mongst
were an either/or this or that relative position
ol’ he thought ‘bout it
done wrote’t poem regards’n‘s still wonderin’
by hoodoo osmotics
later an answer emerge’n light bulb’ll turn on

There was a lot of music before Beethoven. I think your entire summation is incorrect. You only need look to stone-age societies to appreciate that.

Stone age cultures went their different paths did they not? I tried to start from about there with the left/right political agenda and followed the relationship between herders and agriculturalists. This is where the mid-east cultures still find fault between their different denominations and has only been expanded upon in agenda by western capitalist political agenda philosophy.

I mostly thought I’d ask an AC/DC referenced question as it looks like their days are numbered with the loss of BJ.

Postpocelipse said:

I mostly thought I’d ask an AC/DC referenced question as it looks like their days are numbered with the loss of BJ.

He might be getting some funky hearing devices made and the reference could be wasted.

Postpocelipse said:

Postpocelipse said:

I mostly thought I’d ask an AC/DC referenced question as it looks like their days are numbered with the loss of BJ.

He might be getting some funky hearing devices made and the reference could be wasted.

Im sure they will find a funky guitarist.

CrazyNeutrino said:

Postpocelipse said:

Postpocelipse said:

I mostly thought I’d ask an AC/DC referenced question as it looks like their days are numbered with the loss of BJ.

He might be getting some funky hearing devices made and the reference could be wasted.

Im sure they will find a funky guitarist.

Legend has it on the knoch, the Young’s don’t die. Angus is looking a little worn. They go through drummers like they come in six packs. Might be their farewell round.

Postpocelipse said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

Postpocelipse said:

He might be getting some funky hearing devices made and the reference could be wasted.

Im sure they will find a funky guitarist.

Legend has it on the knoch, the Young’s don’t die. Angus is looking a little worn. They go through drummers like they come in six packs. Might be their farewell round.

Changing band members is a fact of life.

CrazyNeutrino said:

Postpocelipse said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

Im sure they will find a funky guitarist.

Legend has it on the knoch, the Young’s don’t die. Angus is looking a little worn. They go through drummers like they come in six packs. Might be their farewell round.

Changing band members is a fact of life.

band members never die they just get temporarily substituted.

Oi, oi, oi
Oi, oi, oi
Oi, oi, oi
Oi, oi, oi
Oi, oi, oi

See me ride out of the sunset
On your color TV screen
Out for all that I can get
If you know what I mean
Women to the left of me
And women to the right
Ain’t got no gun
Ain’t got no knife
Don’t you start no fight

‘Cause I’m T.N.T. I’m dynamite
T.N.T. and I’ll win the fight
T.N.T. I’m a power load
T.N.T. watch me explode

I’m dirty, mean and mighty unclean
I’m a wanted man
Public enemy number one
Understand
So lock up your daughter
Lock up your wife
Lock up your back door
And run for your life
The man is back in town
Don’t you mess me ‘round

‘Cause I’m T.N.T. I’m dynamite
T.N.T. and I’ll win the fight
T.N.T. I’m a power load
T.N.T. watch me explode

T.N.T. (oi, oi, oi)
T.N.T. (oi, oi, oi)
T.N.T. (oi, oi, oi)
T.N.T. (oi, oi, oi)
T.N.T. (oi, oi, oi)
I’m dynamite (oi, oi)
T.N.T. (oi, oi, oi)

And I’ll win the fight (oi, oi, oi)
T.N.T. (oi, oi, oi)
I’m a power load (oi, oi, oi)
T.N.T.

Read more: AC/DC – T.n.t. Lyrics | MetroLyrics

Just seen this thread.

A couple of points:
1. In fact you can dance to Beethoven, should you so choose.
2. Traditional music in European societies that have been largely agrarian for thousands of years has a very strong rhythmic and dance component. Just ask PWM for details.

So the answer to the question is no.

The Rev Dodgson said:

Just seen this thread.

A couple of points:
1. In fact you can dance to Beethoven, should you so choose.
2. Traditional music in European societies that have been largely agrarian for thousands of years has a very strong rhythmic and dance component. Just ask PWM for details.

So the answer to the question is no.

I don’t see how this answers the question regarding political philosophy duality.

Postpocelipse said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Just seen this thread.

A couple of points:
1. In fact you can dance to Beethoven, should you so choose.
2. Traditional music in European societies that have been largely agrarian for thousands of years has a very strong rhythmic and dance component. Just ask PWM for details.

So the answer to the question is no.

I don’t see how this answers the question regarding political philosophy duality.

Well you said:

“This implies there are two main psyches available to the contemporary human condition. One which values the freedom of creativity in marching to one’s own beat and another that appreciates the irreplaceable complexity of unitive cooperation.

Does this analysis provide greater functionality to the debate between conservative and liberal politics than the seemingly rhetorical and singular argument in regards economic reasoning?”

And I am saying the supplied data suggests no such thing.

In fact I’d say it was an excellent example of either/orist squeezing of a continuum into two distinct categories.

The Rev Dodgson said:

Postpocelipse said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Just seen this thread.

A couple of points:
1. In fact you can dance to Beethoven, should you so choose.
2. Traditional music in European societies that have been largely agrarian for thousands of years has a very strong rhythmic and dance component. Just ask PWM for details.

So the answer to the question is no.

I don’t see how this answers the question regarding political philosophy duality.

Well you said:

“This implies there are two main psyches available to the contemporary human condition. One which values the freedom of creativity in marching to one’s own beat and another that appreciates the irreplaceable complexity of unitive cooperation.

Does this analysis provide greater functionality to the debate between conservative and liberal politics than the seemingly rhetorical and singular argument in regards economic reasoning?”

And I am saying the supplied data suggests no such thing.

In fact I’d say it was an excellent example of either/orist squeezing of a continuum into two distinct categories.

With a little more analysis you might be proven wrong. Classical music is a proponent of established upper classes. Rock and roll is music of the masses and poverty originating peoples.

think’t was sinatra that descibed a lot of modern music as marchin’ music, and he was right in a way, sorta like war drums or somethin’.

and people do, they march in step, quickly, maybe in some ways more uniformly than ever.

fucken strange turn out really.

transition said:

think’t was sinatra that descibed a lot of modern music as marchin’ music, and he was right in a way, sorta like war drums or somethin’.

and people do, they march in step, quickly, maybe in some ways more uniformly than ever.

fucken strange turn out really.

That was part of my reference. Shephards know war drums intimately.

Rev is right of course, much of the music of farming communities is extremely rhythmic in nature.

Postpocelipse said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Postpocelipse said:

I don’t see how this answers the question regarding political philosophy duality.

Well you said:

“This implies there are two main psyches available to the contemporary human condition. One which values the freedom of creativity in marching to one’s own beat and another that appreciates the irreplaceable complexity of unitive cooperation.

Does this analysis provide greater functionality to the debate between conservative and liberal politics than the seemingly rhetorical and singular argument in regards economic reasoning?”

And I am saying the supplied data suggests no such thing.

In fact I’d say it was an excellent example of either/orist squeezing of a continuum into two distinct categories.

With a little more analysis you might be proven wrong. Classical music is a proponent of established upper classes. Rock and roll is music of the masses and poverty originating peoples.

Its noticeable in Star Trek in that’s all people seem to listen to in the future and all other music is never mentioned.

Postpocelipse said:

With a little more analysis you might be proven wrong. Classical music is a proponent of established upper classes. Rock and roll is music of the masses and poverty originating peoples.

More either/orist stereotyping.

Bubblecar said:

Rev is right of course, much of the music of farming communities is extremely rhythmic in nature.

You are missing the “war drums” connection to r&r and this aspect of modern music.

The Rev Dodgson said:

Postpocelipse said:

With a little more analysis you might be proven wrong. Classical music is a proponent of established upper classes. Rock and roll is music of the masses and poverty originating peoples.

More either/orist stereotyping.

Not so I say. Stigma is a very really component of individual self image

rhythm’s as old as a heart beat or walking step, but then so’s dither and more.

talking involves breathing, and those probably have all the proto-components of what contemporarist junkies might call music.

Postpocelipse said:

Not so I say.

Just saying it’s not so doesn’t make it not so.

You are saying Group A likes Music Type X, and Group B likes Music Type Y, when in fact there is a huge overlap in preferences. In what way is that not stereotyping?

Postpocelipse said:

Stigma is a very really component of individual self image

I don’t know what that means.

Cymek said:

Postpocelipse said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Well you said:

“This implies there are two main psyches available to the contemporary human condition. One which values the freedom of creativity in marching to one’s own beat and another that appreciates the irreplaceable complexity of unitive cooperation.

Does this analysis provide greater functionality to the debate between conservative and liberal politics than the seemingly rhetorical and singular argument in regards economic reasoning?”

And I am saying the supplied data suggests no such thing.

In fact I’d say it was an excellent example of either/orist squeezing of a continuum into two distinct categories.

With a little more analysis you might be proven wrong. Classical music is a proponent of established upper classes. Rock and roll is music of the masses and poverty originating peoples.

Its noticeable in Star Trek in that’s all people seem to listen to in the future and all other music is never mentioned.

They are listening to Sabotage by Beastie Boys as they crash…

dv said:

Cymek said:

Postpocelipse said:

With a little more analysis you might be proven wrong. Classical music is a proponent of established upper classes. Rock and roll is music of the masses and poverty originating peoples.

Its noticeable in Star Trek in that’s all people seem to listen to in the future and all other music is never mentioned.

They are listening to Sabotage by Beastie Boys as they crash…

Yeah I noticed that, it’s a good song

Cymek said:

dv said:

Cymek said:

Its noticeable in Star Trek in that’s all people seem to listen to in the future and all other music is never mentioned.

They are listening to Sabotage by Beastie Boys as they crash…

Yeah I noticed that, it’s a good song

(pours lymph on the pavement for MCA)

The Rev Dodgson said:

Postpocelipse said:

Not so I say.

Just saying it’s not so doesn’t make it not so.

You are saying Group A likes Music Type X, and Group B likes Music Type Y, when in fact there is a huge overlap in preferences. In what way is that not stereotyping?

Postpocelipse said:

Stigma is a very really component of individual self image

I don’t know what that means.

The Rev Dodgson said:

Postpocelipse said:

Not so I say.

Just saying it’s not so doesn’t make it not so.

You are saying Group A likes Music Type X, and Group B likes Music Type Y, when in fact there is a huge overlap in preferences. In what way is that not stereotyping?

Postpocelipse said:

Stigma is a very really component of individual self image

I don’t know what that means.

There are various cultures that have evolved in sub-groups to the greater community. Is this a significant origin of dualistic political thought? The R&R element was an indulgent confusion to the question I admit.