Date: 13/05/2016 10:26:49
From: dv
ID: 889382
Subject: Veterinary homoeopathy
Prince Charles: I use homeopathy in animals to cut antibiotic use
Prince Charles has proposed a solution to the growing crisis of antibiotic over-use in animals and humans, telling an international gathering of scientists and government officials in London that he treats his own cows and sheep with homeopathy.
In front of the government’s chief medical officer, Dame Sally Davies, who once told a parliamentary committee that homeopathy in humans was “rubbish” and that she was “perpetually surprised that homeopathy is available on the NHS”, the prince explained to delegates from 20 nations and organisations why he had turned to homeopathic remedies for animals.
“It was one of the reasons I converted my farming operation to an organic – or agro-ecological – system over 30 years ago and why we have been successfully using homeopathic – yes, homeopathic – treatments for my cattle and sheep as part of a programme to reduce the use of antibiotics,” he said.
The prince did not give details or stay for questions, but Clarence House later said: “Homeopathy is used on a case-by-case basis at Home Farm, in combination with more conventional medicine, to minimise dependence on antibiotics.”
Date: 13/05/2016 10:30:51
From: diddly-squat
ID: 889388
Subject: re: Veterinary homoeopathy
Date: 13/05/2016 10:32:59
From: kii
ID: 889390
Subject: re: Veterinary homoeopathy
We took Daisy to the vet for aher check-up and shots. I mentioned our concern about her separation anxiety and my trip home. The vet said we could try valerian…skullcap….Bach Rescue Remedy….or Xanax.. I challenged him on the homeopathic suggestion. He looked sheepish and waffled a bit.
So far the valerian doesn’t seem to have calmed her down – she was quite excited to see me this afternoon. I’m thinking the Xanax might be the way to go.
Date: 13/05/2016 10:34:05
From: Divine Angel
ID: 889393
Subject: re: Veterinary homoeopathy
Surely Bark Rescue Remedy is a more marketable name for dogs.
Date: 13/05/2016 10:34:20
From: Cymek
ID: 889394
Subject: re: Veterinary homoeopathy
kii said:
We took Daisy to the vet for aher check-up and shots. I mentioned our concern about her separation anxiety and my trip home. The vet said we could try valerian…skullcap….Bach Rescue Remedy….or Xanax.. I challenged him on the homeopathic suggestion. He looked sheepish and waffled a bit.
So far the valerian doesn’t seem to have calmed her down – she was quite excited to see me this afternoon. I’m thinking the Xanax might be the way to go.
Isn’t valerian a long term usage solution.
Date: 13/05/2016 10:35:47
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 889398
Subject: re: Veterinary homoeopathy
dv said:
Prince Charles: I use homeopathy in animals to cut antibiotic use
Prince Charles has proposed a solution to the growing crisis of antibiotic over-use in animals and humans, telling an international gathering of scientists and government officials in London that he treats his own cows and sheep with homeopathy.
In front of the government’s chief medical officer, Dame Sally Davies, who once told a parliamentary committee that homeopathy in humans was “rubbish” and that she was “perpetually surprised that homeopathy is available on the NHS”, the prince explained to delegates from 20 nations and organisations why he had turned to homeopathic remedies for animals.
“It was one of the reasons I converted my farming operation to an organic – or agro-ecological – system over 30 years ago and why we have been successfully using homeopathic – yes, homeopathic – treatments for my cattle and sheep as part of a programme to reduce the use of antibiotics,” he said.
The prince did not give details or stay for questions, but Clarence House later said: “Homeopathy is used on a case-by-case basis at Home Farm, in combination with more conventional medicine, to minimise dependence on antibiotics.”
Antibiotics are used in farm animals in Europe for reasons other than the animals being sick, apparently.
Date: 13/05/2016 10:36:33
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 889400
Subject: re: Veterinary homoeopathy
http://englishhistoryauthors.blogspot.com.au/2014/01/the-royal-medicine-monarchs-longtime.html
Date: 13/05/2016 11:22:41
From: Cymek
ID: 889437
Subject: re: Veterinary homoeopathy
“Homeopathy is used on a case-by-case basis at Home Farm, in combination with more conventional medicine, to minimise dependence on antibiotics.”
So conventional medicine is also used and I imagine the princes cattle and sheep could/would be a top quality breeding stock so may be genetically more able to combat illness
Date: 13/05/2016 11:32:20
From: Speedy
ID: 889442
Subject: re: Veterinary homoeopathy
Cymek said:
So conventional medicine is also used and I imagine the princes cattle and sheep could/would be a top quality breeding stock so may be genetically more able to combat illness
I assume that on a case-by-case basis, those over-thinking farm animals i.e. the ones who think they are sick, but have no diagnosable disorder, are the ones that may benefit from the placebo effect that homeopathy offers. To be effective in these animals, care would need to be taken to ensure that the taking of the treatment is obvious, rather than masking/mixing it within their food or water.
Date: 13/05/2016 12:26:03
From: sibeen
ID: 889455
Subject: re: Veterinary homoeopathy
That anyone is surprised to find out that Charlie is a bit of a nutter is astonishing.
Date: 13/05/2016 12:29:57
From: sibeen
ID: 889456
Subject: re: Veterinary homoeopathy
Although to be fair to Charlie, with the upbringing he has had to endure it isn’t unanticipated that he’s a bit of a nutter.
Date: 13/05/2016 12:38:51
From: dv
ID: 889460
Subject: re: Veterinary homoeopathy
sibeen said:
That anyone is surprised to find out that Charlie is a bit of a nutter is astonishing.
Do you have evidence to suggest that anyone is surprised to find out that Charlie is a bit of a nutter?
Date: 13/05/2016 13:29:56
From: roughbarked
ID: 889475
Subject: re: Veterinary homoeopathy
Date: 13/05/2016 13:45:00
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 889479
Subject: re: Veterinary homoeopathy
Call me a nutter if you will, but if the application of homeopathy reduces the use of antibiotics when they are not really required, but still allows their use when they are, then maybe it’s not such a bad thing.
Date: 13/05/2016 13:47:08
From: dv
ID: 889480
Subject: re: Veterinary homoeopathy
The Rev Dodgson said:
Call me a nutter if you will
Rest assured that this was my default position anyway.
The Rev Dodgson said:
, but if the application of homeopathy reduces the use of antibiotics when they are not really required, but still allows their use when they are
Do we live in a universe where that is the case?
Date: 13/05/2016 13:48:40
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 889481
Subject: re: Veterinary homoeopathy
sounds like the average conversation on the Ark……….
Date: 13/05/2016 13:50:29
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 889482
Subject: re: Veterinary homoeopathy
dv said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Call me a nutter if you will
Rest assured that this was my default position anyway.
The Rev Dodgson said:
, but if the application of homeopathy reduces the use of antibiotics when they are not really required, but still allows their use when they are
Do we live in a universe where that is the case?
Didn’t the article say that HRH Charlie follows just such a practice?
Date: 13/05/2016 13:51:46
From: dv
ID: 889483
Subject: re: Veterinary homoeopathy
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Call me a nutter if you will
Rest assured that this was my default position anyway.
The Rev Dodgson said:
, but if the application of homeopathy reduces the use of antibiotics when they are not really required, but still allows their use when they are
Do we live in a universe where that is the case?
Didn’t the article say that HRH Charlie follows just such a practice?
That was his description of the practice he follows, yes. All things considered, could he be regarded as a neutral observer in this case?
Date: 13/05/2016 14:26:33
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 889503
Subject: re: Veterinary homoeopathy
kii said:
We took Daisy to the vet for aher check-up and shots. I mentioned our concern about her separation anxiety and my trip home. The vet said we could try valerian…skullcap….Bach Rescue Remedy….or Xanax.. I challenged him on the homeopathic suggestion. He looked sheepish and waffled a bit.
So far the valerian doesn’t seem to have calmed her down – she was quite excited to see me this afternoon. I’m thinking the Xanax might be the way to go.
Have you considered sertraline?
Date: 13/05/2016 14:29:21
From: Cymek
ID: 889504
Subject: re: Veterinary homoeopathy
mollwollfumble said:
kii said:
We took Daisy to the vet for aher check-up and shots. I mentioned our concern about her separation anxiety and my trip home. The vet said we could try valerian…skullcap….Bach Rescue Remedy….or Xanax.. I challenged him on the homeopathic suggestion. He looked sheepish and waffled a bit.
So far the valerian doesn’t seem to have calmed her down – she was quite excited to see me this afternoon. I’m thinking the Xanax might be the way to go.
Have you considered sertraline?
Are you sertain that’s a good idea
Date: 13/05/2016 14:32:31
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 889507
Subject: re: Veterinary homoeopathy
Peak Warming Man said:
Antibiotics are used in farm animals in Europe for reasons other than the animals being sick, apparently.
To stop them getting sick, before the disease occurs.
There is no such thing as overuse of antibiotics. The mutations that generate antibiotic resistance occur equally as often in animals not given antibiotics as in animals given antibiotics, scientific research has shown.
There is such a thing as under use of antibiotics. And it’s a big problem.
Date: 13/05/2016 15:11:03
From: Speedy
ID: 889512
Subject: re: Veterinary homoeopathy
mollwollfumble said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Antibiotics are used in farm animals in Europe for reasons other than the animals being sick, apparently.
To stop them getting sick, before the disease occurs.
There is no such thing as overuse of antibiotics. The mutations that generate antibiotic resistance occur equally as often in animals not given antibiotics as in animals given antibiotics, scientific research has shown.
There is such a thing as under use of antibiotics. And it’s a big problem.
I think it would be easier to describe it as a misuse of antibiotics. They are either prescribed unnecessarily, or are prescribed correctly, but not taken in the correct dosage and/or for the correct length of time.
Date: 13/05/2016 16:51:42
From: Ian
ID: 889559
Subject: re: Veterinary homoeopathy
The mutations that generate antibiotic resistance occur equally as often in animals not given antibiotics as in animals given antibiotics, scientific research has shown.
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Yes. Bacteria have had a couple of billion years evolving resistance to naturally occurring antibiotics. With generations of twenty to thirty minutes there is no way to beat them.
However using antibiotics in agriculture as growth promoters and use in humans when unnecessary is only exacerbating the problem of antibiotic resistance.