Just been reading about what happened in the 17th Century (mainly) in Europe.

My question to you is this:
How is it that a reasonably well educated person had to reach the age of 65 before really becoming aware of the importance of the two people named above to the future history of the World?

The Rev Dodgson said:

Just been reading about what happened in the 17th Century (mainly) in Europe.

My question to you is this:
How is it that a reasonably well educated person had to reach the age of 65 before really becoming aware of the importance of the two people named above to the future history of the World?

I hardly like to say that it is because you are shallow or pig-ignorant, as this would be unkind and uncharitable on this, God’s day.

So let us just say that different people will become interested in key historical figures later than others.

“Bacon died of pneumonia, with one account by John Aubrey stating that he had contracted the condition while studying the effects of freezing on the preservation of meat.”

He was probably sick to death of curing.

Peak Warming Man said:

“Bacon died of pneumonia, with one account by John Aubrey stating that he had contracted the condition while studying the effects of freezing on the preservation of meat.”

He was probably sick to death of curing.

Nice double pun there.

dv said:

I hardly like to say that it is because you are shallow or pig-ignorant, as this would be unkind and uncharitable on this, God’s day.

So let us just say that different people will become interested in key historical figures later than others.

OK, I suppose I should take some responsibility for my ignorance in this area, but I do think the educational system (in the broadest sense) should take some responsibility as well.

These are names that just are not given the same importance as the likes of Shakespeare, Newton, or any king or queen you care to mention.

Also at my school in England the teaching of philosophy as a subject was given approximately zero time, and even in subjects where it should have been covered, such as history, it was hardly mentioned.

I don’t think Australian today schools are much different.

>Also at my school in England the teaching of philosophy as a subject was given approximately zero time, and even in subjects where it should have been covered, such as history, it was hardly mentioned.
I don’t think Australian today schools are much different.

You ought be pleased then (regards Locke) that you internalized many of the notions and methods of the tabula rasa and associationism during your early education.

transition said:

>Also at my school in England the teaching of philosophy as a subject was given approximately zero time, and even in subjects where it should have been covered, such as history, it was hardly mentioned.
I don’t think Australian today schools are much different.

You ought be pleased then (regards Locke) that you internalized many of the notions and methods of the tabula rasa and associationism during your early education.

I’m not sure what notions and italicized methods of a tabula rasa are, but I think it is a good point that most of us do internalize and accept the notions stated by Locke, without being aware of their source.

I’ve now looked up Locke tabula rasa, and I find there is a good deal of irony in that.

The book I’m reading didn’t mention that aspect of his philosophy.

The Rev Dodgson said:

I’ve now looked up Locke tabula rasa, and I find there is a good deal of irony in that.

The book I’m reading didn’t mention that aspect of his philosophy.

the tabula rasa’s alright for an egalitarian chant (or oppressive tyranny), my head was a bit of an empty vessel when young, got by on instinct mostly, ‘em gifts me primate ancestors passed on.

the educational system creates a product not an individual

they are busy making education unreachable by fees so ….

the teachers might not about these geezers as well

I wouldn’t worry too much about your abysmal ignorance of Bacon and Locke, Rev, I wasn’t taught about them either.

Sota related…

I had to have it explained to me that the now defunct semi-statue of Abbott on Mad as Hell at one point had the slogan “Carthago delenda est” ( “Carthage must be destroyed”) on it, a dig at the Bott’s repetitive “Stop the Boats”.

I don’t want to live in a world without bacon and without locks how would we stop people pinching our stuff