Does murder have a chemical signature that passes with time or does the chemical signature stay with that person all their life?

Or perhaps their is no particular chemical signature at all?

I know its more complicated than that, environment, past cause, intent, victims, murder tools, guns

Im wondering purely about chemicals in the body and brain, and other biological causes or smaller parts of the bigger picture

That’s if chemicals play a part in murder, along with diet, bacteria levels in their body, drugs prescribed, and or illegal

the main chemicals in the body and mind would be created with anger and other close associated emotions / trace chemicals?

would there be a range of emotions/ trace chemicals involved across all murderers?

if there was, could it be tested.

Given that chemicals in the brain can also be discussed by psychology, I’d suggest that there is a chemical change that stays with the person, assuming that person is aware that they have done something wrong and feel a sense of guilt because of it. There were studies done recently that show that some people don’t have the ability to feel guilt or a sense of “wrong” in committing murder, so I believe those people wouldn’t have a chemical change because they’re not necessarily aware that what they have done is so much of a problem.

murderers can know what they have done is a societal wrong, but still not feel guilty about it. Crime is crime because we say it is.

JTQ said:

Given that chemicals in the brain can also be discussed by psychology, I’d suggest that there is a chemical change that stays with the person, assuming that person is aware that they have done something wrong and feel a sense of guilt because of it. There were studies done recently that show that some people don’t have the ability to feel guilt or a sense of “wrong” in committing murder, so I believe those people wouldn’t have a chemical change because they’re not necessarily aware that what they have done is so much of a problem.

I wondered that if someone attacked me and I did everything to avoid it and then defended myself and killed them and felt no remorse would that make me a psychopath

Arts said:

murderers can know what they have done is a societal wrong, but still not feel guilty about it. Crime is crime because we say it is.

True… but because they don’t necessarily feel guilty about it, there is much less chance of there being a chemical change as a result of it.

you need to be more specific.. are you talking about the murderer who hunts and purposely goes out to seek a victim, has a period of satisfaction only to feel the need to hut and go through the process again or the murder who gets really angry with someone and kills them?

Arts said:

you need to be more specific.. are you talking about the murderer who hunts and purposely goes out to seek a victim, has a period of satisfaction only to feel the need to hut and go through the process again or the murder who gets really angry with someone and kills them?

Don’t most serial killers have some sort of difference in brain structure that results in little or no empathy. It possible as well I suppose that the act of murder from being extremely angry causes some sort of neural pathway change as a result of a large chemical release of adrenaline

there was an interesting study done on an adopted kid who ended up murdering his adoptive Family. When they found his biological father (who had spent his life in and out of prison, but, IIRC, was never convicted of murder) they did some DNA marking with them and found that the similarities on certain known markers to be extremely significant. I’d say that the ability to murder is in us all. The want to murder is in only some of us, but for a very few the want to murder is inherent. I’m not convinced it’s chemical, though certainly some chemicals can trigger certain tendencies.

Tv and movies often claim that killing someone changes you forever and that it gets easier each time, I imagine that its probably quite true

Cymek said:

Arts said:

you need to be more specific.. are you talking about the murderer who hunts and purposely goes out to seek a victim, has a period of satisfaction only to feel the need to hut and go through the process again or the murder who gets really angry with someone and kills them?

Don’t most serial killers have some sort of difference in brain structure that results in little or no empathy. It possible as well I suppose that the act of murder from being extremely angry causes some sort of neural pathway change as a result of a large chemical release of adrenaline

yes, people like Aileen Wuornos, who’s trauma and life style led her to murder.. there seemed to be a trigger that was then not controllable (although she presented that her victims were all deserving in some way.. eg they raped me etc)

Arts said:

there was an interesting study done on an adopted kid who ended up murdering his adoptive Family. When they found his biological father (who had spent his life in and out of prison, but, IIRC, was never convicted of murder) they did some DNA marking with them and found that the similarities on certain known markers to be extremely significant. I’d say that the ability to murder is in us all. The want to murder is in only some of us, but for a very few the want to murder is inherent. I’m not convinced it’s chemical, though certainly some chemicals can trigger certain tendencies.

that last bit should have been “for a very few the need to murder…”

Cymek said:

Tv and movies often claim that killing someone changes you forever and that it gets easier each time, I imagine that its probably quite true

I’m not so sure that’s true or everyone

Arts said:

there was an interesting study done on an adopted kid who ended up murdering his adoptive Family. When they found his biological father (who had spent his life in and out of prison, but, IIRC, was never convicted of murder) they did some DNA marking with them and found that the similarities on certain known markers to be extremely significant. I’d say that the ability to murder is in us all. The want to murder is in only some of us, but for a very few the want to murder is inherent. I’m not convinced it’s chemical, though certainly some chemicals can trigger certain tendencies.

Would someone who is hungry a lot trigger anger involved with hunt kill intentions?

CrazyNeutrino said:

Arts said:

there was an interesting study done on an adopted kid who ended up murdering his adoptive Family. When they found his biological father (who had spent his life in and out of prison, but, IIRC, was never convicted of murder) they did some DNA marking with them and found that the similarities on certain known markers to be extremely significant. I’d say that the ability to murder is in us all. The want to murder is in only some of us, but for a very few the want to murder is inherent. I’m not convinced it’s chemical, though certainly some chemicals can trigger certain tendencies.

Would someone who is hungry a lot trigger anger involved with hunt kill intentions?

is there anger involved in food kills?

killing doesn’t have to be in anger, it can stem from fear or power or need (like hunger)

CrazyNeutrino said:

Arts said:

there was an interesting study done on an adopted kid who ended up murdering his adoptive Family. When they found his biological father (who had spent his life in and out of prison, but, IIRC, was never convicted of murder) they did some DNA marking with them and found that the similarities on certain known markers to be extremely significant. I’d say that the ability to murder is in us all. The want to murder is in only some of us, but for a very few the want to murder is inherent. I’m not convinced it’s chemical, though certainly some chemicals can trigger certain tendencies.

Would someone who is hungry a lot trigger anger involved with hunt kill intentions?

Perhaps for a decent curry

Arts said:

killing doesn’t have to be in anger, it can stem from fear or power or need (like hunger)

Or accident.

Arts said:

killing doesn’t have to be in anger, it can stem from fear or power or need (like hunger)

Or accident.

bob(from black rock) said:

Arts said:

killing doesn’t have to be in anger, it can stem from fear or power or need (like hunger)

Or accident.

negligence..

Arts said:

killing doesn’t have to be in anger, it can stem from fear or power or need (like hunger)

or fun …

Probably generate a bit of nervous sweat.

poikilotherm said:

Arts said:

killing doesn’t have to be in anger, it can stem from fear or power or need (like hunger)

or fun …

jealousy

Often a war is actually a murder

capital punishment is also murder… sanctioned murder like war.

Arts said:

capital punishment is also murder… sanctioned murder like war.

By definition not.

would mass murders have a different chemical signature?

It would be almost impossible to get an accurate chemical levels/neural activity/ brain chemistry snapshot

it happens so quickly in time

even alcohol washes away from the brain quickly

I wonder what percentage of all America shootings involve metal impairment?

So are they refugee illiterates bludging on the dole or refugee illiterates taking our jobs?

AwesomeO said:

Probably generate a bit of nervous sweat.

And the urge to have a shit on the lounge-room rug?

AwesomeO said:

Arts said:

capital punishment is also murder… sanctioned murder like war.

By definition not.

quite right… but still…

Cymek said:

Often a war is actually a murder

Just one?

Witty Rejoinder said:

So are they refugee illiterates bludging on the dole or refugee illiterates taking our jobs?

In the Murder thread? Not sure.

poikilotherm said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

So are they refugee illiterates bludging on the dole or refugee illiterates taking our jobs?

In the Murder thread? Not sure.

Doh’

Arts said:

AwesomeO said:

Arts said:

capital punishment is also murder… sanctioned murder like war.

By definition not.

quite right… but still…

It’s the usual out but I don’t think it’s the complete story, after all a state can make murder legal, but not sure it is lawful. Though that is a pedantic and definitional minefield.

And nothing to do with smell.

AwesomeO said:

Arts said:

AwesomeO said:

By definition not.

quite right… but still…

It’s the usual out but I don’t think it’s the complete story, after all a state can make murder legal, but not sure it is lawful. Though that is a pedantic and definitional minefield.

And nothing to do with smell.

I suppose, to split hairs, one could state that capital punishment does nothing to deter a population from murder, it seems to, in fact, sanction it.. so …

yeah I know.. it’s thin…

• I wonder what percentage of all America shootings involve metal impairment?

100% impairment due to metal. Usually lead…

furious said:

• I wonder what percentage of all America shootings involve metal impairment?

100% impairment due to metal. Usually lead…

could then be split into those with a diagnosed on going mental illness

vs those with temporary impairment

CrazyNeutrino said:

furious said:

• I wonder what percentage of all America shootings involve metal impairment?

100% impairment due to metal. Usually lead…

could then be split into those with a diagnosed on going mental illness

vs those with temporary impairment

furious was having a go at your typo metal =/= mental

given that a great number of shootings in in America are ‘accidental’ mental illness becomes a non factor
i 2015 a toddler shot someone once a week on average in the USA

Arts said:

in 2015 a toddler shot someone once a week on average in the USA

A damming statistic that shows that Australian children require more time on the shooting range, otherwise we’ll never catch up with the bloody yanks.

I wonder if a test could be devised to help research, by giving prisoners convinced of murder, specialized MRI scans

devising tests and reactions to things which might led someone to murder, look at the mri scans to see if similar areas light up for similar crimes involving similar emotions

tests could then go into detail covering any emotion involved in a crime

jealously
hatred
indifference
for fun

are these classified as emotional motivators?

a mixture of any of these

What is the difference between Normcore and just wearing normal clothes?

No

dv said:

What is the difference between Normcore and just wearing normal clothes?

the spelling…

With anger, one thing I noticed being a in an art class once was a discussion causing anger between two people

the rest of the class was getting angry as well

by emotions carried in the voices of those arguing

and I stayed calm because I did not let myself get angry

I kind of put myself in a meditative state and observation what was going on

some in the class were getting visibly excitable

anger appeared to be becoming contagious (visible anger in their faces and auditory hearing carried emotions)

something I noted in my visual diary at the time

CrazyNeutrino said:

With anger, one thing I noticed being a in an art class once was a discussion causing anger between two people

the rest of the class was getting angry as well

by emotions carried in the voices of those arguing

and I stayed calm because I did not let myself get angry

I kind of put myself in a meditative state and observation what was going on

some in the class were getting visibly excitable

anger appeared to be becoming contagious (visible anger in their faces and auditory hearing carried emotions)

something I noted in my visual diary at the time

passes bong

passes bong

ouch!

ChrispenEvan said:

passes bong

ouch!

Anecdotes make me angry. You won’t like me when I’m angry.

ChrispenEvan said:

passes bong

ouch!

Filthy bloody things. Wouldn’t accept it if passed to me. I’d pass on it.

• Anecdotes make me angry. You won’t like me when I’m angry

Anger is an energy…

roughbarked said:

ChrispenEvan said:

passes bong

ouch!

Filthy bloody things. Wouldn’t accept it if passed to me. I’d pass on it.

to the left hand side?

Witty Rejoinder said:

ChrispenEvan said:

passes bong

ouch!

Anecdotes make me angry. You won’t like me when I’m angry.

Possible.

Interesting that they does not seems to be a recognized set of human emotions

It should be agreed upon, like the set of elements.

Wikipeadia Emotion lists around 66

while this chart lists around 114

You could set up an MRI test to look at each of the known emotions

66 emotions

look at emotions which can influence murder / be be part of the bigger picture

Arts said:

there was an interesting study done on an adopted kid who ended up murdering his adoptive Family. When they found his biological father (who had spent his life in and out of prison, but, IIRC, was never convicted of murder) they did some DNA marking with them and found that the similarities on certain known markers to be extremely significant. I’d say that the ability to murder is in us all. The want to murder is in only some of us, but for a very few the want to murder is inherent. I’m not convinced it’s chemical, though certainly some chemicals can trigger certain tendencies.

Surely “rage of passion” type murders are a chemical thing?

Arts said:

there was an interesting study done on an adopted kid who ended up murdering his adoptive Family. When they found his biological father (who had spent his life in and out of prison, but, IIRC, was never convicted of murder) they did some DNA marking with them and found that the similarities on certain known markers to be extremely significant. I’d say that the ability to murder is in us all. The want to murder is in only some of us, but for a very few the want to murder is inherent. I’m not convinced it’s chemical, though certainly some chemicals can trigger certain tendencies.

Not sure about inherent urges in anyone, here. I remember being mortified when I discovered that people killed each other.

Postpocelipse said:

Arts said:

there was an interesting study done on an adopted kid who ended up murdering his adoptive Family. When they found his biological father (who had spent his life in and out of prison, but, IIRC, was never convicted of murder) they did some DNA marking with them and found that the similarities on certain known markers to be extremely significant. I’d say that the ability to murder is in us all. The want to murder is in only some of us, but for a very few the want to murder is inherent. I’m not convinced it’s chemical, though certainly some chemicals can trigger certain tendencies.

Not sure about inherent urges in anyone, here. I remember being mortified when I discovered that people killed each other.

One often hears people use the words, “I’ll kill you for that”.

Postpocelipse said:

Arts said:

there was an interesting study done on an adopted kid who ended up murdering his adoptive Family. When they found his biological father (who had spent his life in and out of prison, but, IIRC, was never convicted of murder) they did some DNA marking with them and found that the similarities on certain known markers to be extremely significant. I’d say that the ability to murder is in us all. The want to murder is in only some of us, but for a very few the want to murder is inherent. I’m not convinced it’s chemical, though certainly some chemicals can trigger certain tendencies.

Not sure about inherent urges in anyone, here. I remember being mortified when I discovered that people killed each other.

I can only consider urge to kill likely after some form of dis-empowerment of the person.

roughbarked said:

Postpocelipse said:

Arts said:

there was an interesting study done on an adopted kid who ended up murdering his adoptive Family. When they found his biological father (who had spent his life in and out of prison, but, IIRC, was never convicted of murder) they did some DNA marking with them and found that the similarities on certain known markers to be extremely significant. I’d say that the ability to murder is in us all. The want to murder is in only some of us, but for a very few the want to murder is inherent. I’m not convinced it’s chemical, though certainly some chemicals can trigger certain tendencies.

Not sure about inherent urges in anyone, here. I remember being mortified when I discovered that people killed each other.

One often hears people use the words, “I’ll kill you for that”.

I’m referring to the natural inclinations of a child.

Evolution of Human Predation Culture

Young males groomed to kill animals as means of providing for the group

Young males groomed to kill other peoples as means of protecting the group

Societal roles develop greater complexity and these practices discontinue as universal

While females retain a significant degree of natural born value to society males lose this as automatic

Dis-empowerment of poverty group peoples rises exponentially

Postpocelipse said:

Evolution of Human Predation Culture

Young males groomed to kill animals as means of providing for the group

Young males groomed to kill other peoples as means of protecting the group

Societal roles develop greater complexity and these practices discontinue as universal

While females retain a significant degree of natural born value to society males lose this as automatic

Dis-empowerment of poverty group peoples rises exponentially

From that I sumise that you are forecasting an increase in murder rates?

roughbarked said:

Postpocelipse said:

Evolution of Human Predation Culture

Young males groomed to kill animals as means of providing for the group

Young males groomed to kill other peoples as means of protecting the group

Societal roles develop greater complexity and these practices discontinue as universal

While females retain a significant degree of natural born value to society males lose this as automatic

Dis-empowerment of poverty group peoples rises exponentially

From that I sumise that you are forecasting an increase in murder rates?

Nothing that isn’t in line with current numbers.

Postpocelipse said:

roughbarked said:

Postpocelipse said:

Evolution of Human Predation Culture

Young males groomed to kill animals as means of providing for the group

Young males groomed to kill other peoples as means of protecting the group

Societal roles develop greater complexity and these practices discontinue as universal

While females retain a significant degree of natural born value to society males lose this as automatic

Dis-empowerment of poverty group peoples rises exponentially

From that I sumise that you are forecasting an increase in murder rates?

Nothing that isn’t in line with current numbers.

There should be some DNA residues from suicide bombers.

roughbarked said:

Postpocelipse said:

roughbarked said:

From that I sumise that you are forecasting an increase in murder rates?

Nothing that isn’t in line with current numbers.

There should be some DNA residues from suicide bombers.

Have to wonder if you made their home a little less desert like if these peoples would feel less poverty stricken…..

Postpocelipse said:

roughbarked said:

Postpocelipse said:

Nothing that isn’t in line with current numbers.

There should be some DNA residues from suicide bombers.

Have to wonder if you made their home a little less desert like if these peoples would feel less poverty stricken…..

You haven’t noticed the trend for them to move somewhere else?

roughbarked said:

Postpocelipse said:

roughbarked said:

There should be some DNA residues from suicide bombers.

Have to wonder if you made their home a little less desert like if these peoples would feel less poverty stricken…..

You haven’t noticed the trend for them to move somewhere else?

No entirely missed that one. What are you saying?

Postpocelipse said:

roughbarked said:

Postpocelipse said:

Have to wonder if you made their home a little less desert like if these peoples would feel less poverty stricken…..

You haven’t noticed the trend for them to move somewhere else?

No entirely missed that one. What are you saying?

Of the current numbers of 60 million displaced people, a large percentage are moving away from thse desert regions.

roughbarked said:

Postpocelipse said:

roughbarked said:

You haven’t noticed the trend for them to move somewhere else?

No entirely missed that one. What are you saying?

Of the current numbers of 60 million displaced people, a large percentage are moving away from thse desert regions.

And no one moves there unless it is temporarily for significant pay?

Postpocelipse said:

roughbarked said:

Postpocelipse said:

No entirely missed that one. What are you saying?

Of the current numbers of 60 million displaced people, a large percentage are moving away from thse desert regions.

And no one moves there unless it is temporarily for significant pay?

There will likely soon be jobs covering the desert sands with solar collectors.

roughbarked said:

Postpocelipse said:

roughbarked said:

Of the current numbers of 60 million displaced people, a large percentage are moving away from thse desert regions.

And no one moves there unless it is temporarily for significant pay?

There will likely soon be jobs covering the desert sands with solar collectors.

Sounds like a prime opportunity to stage the 2nd revolution against the reign of Ra. Probably a lot better press in that campaign…….

Postpocelipse said:

roughbarked said:

Postpocelipse said:

Evolution of Human Predation Culture

Young males groomed to kill animals as means of providing for the group

Young males groomed to kill other peoples as means of protecting the group

Societal roles develop greater complexity and these practices discontinue as universal

While females retain a significant degree of natural born value to society males lose this as automatic

Dis-empowerment of poverty group peoples rises exponentially

From that I sumise that you are forecasting an increase in murder rates?

Nothing that isn’t in line with current numbers.

murder rates in Australia are actually decreasing

Divine Angel said:

Arts said:

there was an interesting study done on an adopted kid who ended up murdering his adoptive Family. When they found his biological father (who had spent his life in and out of prison, but, IIRC, was never convicted of murder) they did some DNA marking with them and found that the similarities on certain known markers to be extremely significant. I’d say that the ability to murder is in us all. The want to murder is in only some of us, but for a very few the want to murder is inherent. I’m not convinced it’s chemical, though certainly some chemicals can trigger certain tendencies.

Surely “rage of passion” type murders are a chemical thing?

emotional charges?

CrazyNeutrino said:

You could set up an MRI test to look at each of the known emotions

66 emotions

look at emotions which can influence murder / be be part of the bigger picture

I wonder if each emotion in an mri scan would show similar brain activity areas across people?

> would there be a range of emotions/ trace chemicals involved across all murderers?

No. For a start, according to profilers there are two quite distinctive types of mass murderers, the organised type and the disorganised type.

The organised type finds out everything they can about the victim in advance, plans everything down to the minutest detail, and has all equipment ready.

The disorganised type simply kills in a panic, and stuffs the body in whatever receptacle is closest to hand.

As for chemistry, there would be a brain chemistry or physiology that increases the likelihood of becoming a murderer. I’m thinking specifically of psychopaths and paranoid schizophrenics here.

But as for brain physiology, if there is a memory of committing a violent act then that memory can theoretically be read using appropriate brain probes, the engram would be in the pattern of synapses. It wouldn’t be any easier to do than reading any other memory, and the insertion of probes (or microtome slicing of the brain) would cause sufficient trauma to make the recovery of memory very iffy.

mollwollfumble said:

> would there be a range of emotions/ trace chemicals involved across all murderers?
<snip>
But as for brain physiology, if there is a memory of committing a violent act then that memory can theoretically be read using appropriate brain probes, the engram would be in the pattern of synapses. It wouldn’t be any easier to do than reading any other memory, and the insertion of probes (or microtome slicing of the brain) would cause sufficient trauma to make the recovery of memory very iffy.

Doan care how you neatly categorize it
WAR IS STILL MURDER (KILLING)

Regarding the original post:
Pretty Damned Horrific to consider the Physio Changes that the “serviceman” goes through
..and how it effects them (haunts them) For The REST Of Their Lives. :-/
..also.. if man is capable of violence (for WHATEVER Reason) is it caused by the effects of
the (possible) chemical changes discussed here that may be “passed-on” through our DNA..

..and can we consider it the legacy of Cain as the original (first) murderer… ?

roughbarked said:

Postpocelipse said:

roughbarked said:

Of the current numbers of 60 million displaced people, a large percentage are moving away from thse desert regions.

And no one moves there unless it is temporarily for significant pay?

There will likely soon be jobs covering the desert sands with solar collectors.

It made me think again of “DUNE”
The dessert covered in Solar Collectors AND WATER COLLECTORS
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/fontus-the-self-filling-water-bottles#/

nice to think we still have a chance to think our way out of this mess. (-:

mollwollfumble said:

> would there be a range of emotions/ trace chemicals involved across all murderers?

No. For a start, according to profilers there are two quite distinctive types of mass murderers, the organised type and the disorganised type.

The organised type finds out everything they can about the victim in advance, plans everything down to the minutest detail, and has all equipment ready.

The disorganised type simply kills in a panic, and stuffs the body in whatever receptacle is closest to hand.

As for chemistry, there would be a brain chemistry or physiology that increases the likelihood of becoming a murderer. I’m thinking specifically of psychopaths and paranoid schizophrenics here.

But as for brain physiology, if there is a memory of committing a violent act then that memory can theoretically be read using appropriate brain probes, the engram would be in the pattern of synapses. It wouldn’t be any easier to do than reading any other memory, and the insertion of probes (or microtome slicing of the brain) would cause sufficient trauma to make the recovery of memory very iffy.

I was thinking of using MRI Scans to show responses to crime by looking at the subjects own emotional responses to images or words

would each emotion in an mri scan would show similar brain activity areas across people?

You could set up an MRI scan to look at each of the 66-114 known emotions

more agrrement needs to be done on exactly how many emtions there are

look at emotions which can influence murder or are in some way a part of the bigger picture

How many emotions create a physical reponse in people? Is there some way to observe intensity of emotions in an MRI scan?

Wikipeadia Emotion List

Affection
Anger
Angst
Anguish
Annoyance
Anxiety
Apathy
Arousal
Awe
Boredom
Confidence
Contempt
Contentment
Courage
Curiosity
Depression
Desire
Despair
Disappointment
Disgust
Distrust
Ecstasy
Embarrassment
Empathy
Envy
Euphoria
Fear
Frustration
Gratitude
Grief
Guilt
Happiness
Hatred
Hope
Horror
Hostility
Humiliation
Hysteria
Interest
Jealousy
Loneliness
Love
Lust
Outrage
Panic
Passion
Pity
Pleasure
Pride
Rage
Regret
Remorse
Resentment
Sadness
Saudade
Schadenfreude
Self-confidence
Shame
Shock
Shyness
Sorrow
Suffering
Surprise
Trust
Wonder
Worry

CrazyNeutrino said:

mollwollfumble said:

> would there be a range of emotions/ trace chemicals involved across all murderers?

No. For a start, according to profilers there are two quite distinctive types of mass murderers, the organised type and the disorganised type.

The organised type finds out everything they can about the victim in advance, plans everything down to the minutest detail, and has all equipment ready.

The disorganised type simply kills in a panic, and stuffs the body in whatever receptacle is closest to hand.

As for chemistry, there would be a brain chemistry or physiology that increases the likelihood of becoming a murderer. I’m thinking specifically of psychopaths and paranoid schizophrenics here.

But as for brain physiology, if there is a memory of committing a violent act then that memory can theoretically be read using appropriate brain probes, the engram would be in the pattern of synapses. It wouldn’t be any easier to do than reading any other memory, and the insertion of probes (or microtome slicing of the brain) would cause sufficient trauma to make the recovery of memory very iffy.

I was thinking of using MRI Scans to show responses to crime by looking at the subjects own emotional responses to images or words

would each emotion in an mri scan would show similar brain activity areas across people?

You could set up an MRI scan to look at each of the 66-114 known emotions

more agrrement needs to be done on exactly how many emtions there are

look at emotions which can influence murder or are in some way a part of the bigger picture

An idea I posted on the old forum. Police use web crawlers or simlar to find out the highest hits of some one looking at articles about a specific murder, idea being the murderer would be compulsively checking.

Maybe MRI Scanning could be used in domestic violence therapy

once emotion areas are more understood

It could be used to show levels of other emotions which might otherwise be partially forgotten or less easily to empathize with.

CrazyNeutrino said:

Maybe MRI Scanning could be used in domestic violence therapy

once emotion areas are more understood

It could be used to show levels of other emotions which might otherwise be partially forgotten or less easily to empathize with.

What they do know is that stress related to the exposure to domestic violence to a pregnant mother biologically alters the neurology of the developing foetuses’ brain. The balance of dopamine and seratonin levels ‘are’ affected (plus more – I guess).

Generational domestic violence does exist, which could result in a murder – potentially influenced by the seratonin/dopamine levels not being within an optimal range is an area overlooked (I think). The impulse control during perceived to be stressful events ‘may’ be influenced by impulsivity triggers from an event that is the reacted upon inappropriately.

Evolution is about surviving long enough to perpetuate the species, Could evolution try and alter a foetus’ neurology subjected to DV vicariously by turning up the reactionary part of the brain to prepare the fear or flight brain for extra aggression potential to counter the threat of DV during gestation?

The brain is designed to survive trauma apparently but that may not equal being optimal for quality of life even though the brain is surviving. For a relevant and confronting example, multiple personality disorder. The brain fragments to survive and fragments to achieve that outcome.

If children born as a consequence of DV are fighter is this to prepare to survive a registered threat communicated chemically via the cortisol levels released by a mother affected by DV.

Doing something about violent behaviour and violent acts may require understanding how important our environments are from the very beginnings of producing a life.