256km view

128Km view i am near the place called tocal.

Hi Veg yes looks like we will get another downpour—aren’t we lucky

Grasshopper said:

Hi Veg yes looks like we will get another downpour—aren’t we lucky

g’day grasshopper
light rain falling north of adelaide as i type.
you can smell the rain here – the crispy straw mulch will be damp by tonight.

I got 28mm of rain yesterday from localised thunder storms!! Biggest fall since March (30mm), also biggest monthly total this year (89mm) and best November total in 3 years. This year is still the lowest rainfall we have had in 5 years though.

Very humid here again on the Gold Coast. I can see that rain on the 512k radar..

Given the dense clay nature of our soil, we would appreciate a couple of days for this weeks’ rain to soak in before we are hit again…

bluegreen said:

I got 28mm of rain yesterday from localised thunder storms!! Biggest fall since March (30mm), also biggest monthly total this year (89mm) and best November total in 3 years. This year is still the lowest rainfall we have had in 5 years though.

We got nothing here.. but glad you got a decent drop :)

We got a lovely downpour last night…Mr D nearly bogged the Mondeo coming up the driveway (nearly slid off)…beautiful this morning…the rain had only some lightning and a clap of thunder that made me jump…big heavy wet (you know what I mean) warm drops…

Sadly the bed where my potatoes were, is Drizabone..I mean Dry… the lucerne mulch is white…I wonder if there is a difference between packaged lucerne mulch and the sweepings from the bales I buy for the pony?

Rain here at the moment. Gosh, but its lovely. It’s been so horridly sticky all day.

I went to the shopping centre earlier; but there were no car parks; and I didn’t feel like trawling the place for a park in an car without AC, so I came home. Horrid weather. A day when you pray for rain just to feel like you’re not going to melt into the pavement.

Grasshopper said:

Hi Veg yes looks like we will get another downpour—aren’t we lucky

yep we are and its going to be like this for a while they said on the News last night.

Firestorm said:

Very humid here again on the Gold Coast. I can see that rain on the 512k radar..

Given the dense clay nature of our soil, we would appreciate a couple of days for this weeks’ rain to soak in before we are hit again…

Hello Firestorm have we met before?

approx 7mm here

More rain last night…I was so lucky to get all the sheets washed, out and back in just as the first drops began to fall… totally agree with MrD’s mother that a breeze is better to dry the washing than the sun, anyday…Sonny Jim surprised me with the domestic comment that “ and the breeze won’t rot the clothes like the sun does”… bless his cotton socks … Just had to dry the last load of sheets in the dryer for 10 mins as they were that close to “touch dry” that it was a shame to leave them on the line…all back on the beds by bedtime…

I’m not sure if the local horse gallops have been called off…nope, they’re on…last local gallops here for the year so I guess why not let the horses stretch their legs just before Christmas? Must have been a close call, tho’….

its been raining on and off here now.

its only light rain.

chucking down here. wet season has arrived :)

11mms overnight :)

for the record books, it is now 126 days since the mercury dropped below 20C at night and we have had 46 days in a row where the temperature has sailed above 30C.

currently 31C outside, 69% humidity and the barometer is falling at 1003.7

624.4mms for the year so far

and my two-bobs on daylight savings… when is Qld going to wake up, this morning sunrise was at 0445 and sunset at 1830. If you had daylight savings, you would not be woken up by the sun at 0445 but at a more respectable 0545 and you wouldn’t have to turn on your interior lights until at least 1930. You would save electricity.

and my two-bobs on daylight savings… when is Qld going to wake up, this morning sunrise was at 0445 and sunset at 1830. If you had daylight savings, you would not be woken up by the sun at 0445 but at a more respectable 0545 and you wouldn’t have to turn on your interior lights until at least 1930. You would save electricity.

====

Joh’s legacy continues… LOL

pain master said:

11mms overnight :)

for the record books, it is now 126 days since the mercury dropped below 20C at night and we have had 46 days in a row where the temperature has sailed above 30C.

currently 31C outside, 69% humidity and the barometer is falling at 1003.7

624.4mms for the year so far

and my two-bobs on daylight savings… when is Qld going to wake up, this morning sunrise was at 0445 and sunset at 1830. If you had daylight savings, you would not be woken up by the sun at 0445 but at a more respectable 0545 and you wouldn’t have to turn on your interior lights until at least 1930. You would save electricity.

I like getting up at 4:00 in the morning, you can get a lot of gardening and things done before 7:00 am then, when it is cool and not when the day still needs to lose heat…

We don’t turn our interior lights on until 18:30…what’s the go with this point? Most people I know (but not us) have their dinner at 18:00…not sure why…in the daylight…doesn’t seem normal having dinner in broad daylight…

Until they move up here, most people don’t realize that the Qld day is hot from about 8:00 am to nearly 20:00 hrs, anyway…

The thermometer hits 30 C very soon after 8:00 (if not before) and stays up there until well after sundown…stays up there all night too if the inversion breezes don’t come (also known as the 8:30 breeze, the 9 o’clock breeze, etc etc)

…and this is the general rule from about September (definitely October) to April (end of)…

(stirrer!)

colliewa said:

and my two-bobs on daylight savings… when is Qld going to wake up, this morning sunrise was at 0445 and sunset at 1830. If you had daylight savings, you would not be woken up by the sun at 0445 but at a more respectable 0545 and you wouldn’t have to turn on your interior lights until at least 1930. You would save electricity.

====

Joh’s legacy continues… LOL

not at all. You shift people’s habits and a shift occurs in the dynamics of what they do when… I’ll explain.

I get up when the sun is up. A lot of people are like that. I start work at say 0700. If I get up at 0445, then I will realise that I have a bit more time to get ready for work… I take a longer shower, I may shave, I may cook myself some breakfast, I will then go to work. I have used some fairly serious amounts of energy before I have even left for work.

I’m driving home after work, I stop at the shops and pick up something, I may see a friend at the pub and get a Cooper’s light. I drive home and it is around 1815, for safety sake, I drive with my lights on, and when I get home, the lights in the house come on, and I cook dinner inside with all the lights on, I take another shower and a shave and at 2230 I goto bed after consuming some serious amount of energy. My carbon footprint is solid.

With daylightsavings, I wake up at 0545, and realising there ain’t so much time, I take a shorter shower, I don’t shave, last night’s effort was good enough, I make cereal because it is quick and easy and I go to work. Later I return home, visit shops and Pubs and return at a time where it is still light enough to BBQ the dinner outside without lights and only after dinner do I light up the house. I shower and shave and go to bed at 2230. My Carbon Footprint is no where near as heavy as it was in example 1.

With the extra money I save, I buy a Solar Hot water System/Toyota Prius and some shares in Lihir Gold.

I’m feeling greener already :)

But no, Qbillies living in Brisvegas feel the need to have the sun rise at 0445 in the morning… introduce daylight savings to the South East and leave the tropics to having their 6am to 6pm sun show…

whatever you say PM, lol!

Dinetta said:

pain master said:

11mms overnight :)

for the record books, it is now 126 days since the mercury dropped below 20C at night and we have had 46 days in a row where the temperature has sailed above 30C.

currently 31C outside, 69% humidity and the barometer is falling at 1003.7

624.4mms for the year so far

and my two-bobs on daylight savings… when is Qld going to wake up, this morning sunrise was at 0445 and sunset at 1830. If you had daylight savings, you would not be woken up by the sun at 0445 but at a more respectable 0545 and you wouldn’t have to turn on your interior lights until at least 1930. You would save electricity.

I like getting up at 4:00 in the morning, you can get a lot of gardening and things done before 7:00 am then, when it is cool and not when the day still needs to lose heat…

We don’t turn our interior lights on until 18:30…what’s the go with this point? Most people I know (but not us) have their dinner at 18:00…not sure why…in the daylight…doesn’t seem normal having dinner in broad daylight…

Until they move up here, most people don’t realize that the Qld day is hot from about 8:00 am to nearly 20:00 hrs, anyway…

The thermometer hits 30 C very soon after 8:00 (if not before) and stays up there until well after sundown…stays up there all night too if the inversion breezes don’t come (also known as the 8:30 breeze, the 9 o’clock breeze, etc etc)

…and this is the general rule from about September (definitely October) to April (end of)…

(stirrer!)

temperature has naught to do with it. Regardless of daylight savings or not, temp will always be the same, the sun don’t care. If you got up at 0545, the temp will be the same if you got up at 0445 (pre-daylight savings) and the 30C won’t hit until 0900 instead of the current 0800.

It is in the afternoon that you will generate 1 hour of less power usage. Your body will adapt to the different sunrise times, but you will always be inclined to going to bed at the same time….

bluegreen said:

whatever you say PM, lol!

big :D

you know very well bg that it has been some time since I pulled the daylight saving soap box from out of the cupboard…

they should draw the border from the top of South Aussie to Gympie and make the top half Qld and the bottom bit Northern New South Wales… dubber wannabes.

pain master said:

bluegreen said:

whatever you say PM, lol!

big :D

you know very well bg that it has been some time since I pulled the daylight saving soap box from out of the cupboard…

they should draw the border from the top of South Aussie to Gympie and make the top half Qld and the bottom bit Northern New South Wales… dubber wannabes.

personally I like daylight saving time, but I am not one for getting up at daybreak.

bluegreen said:

pain master said:

bluegreen said:

whatever you say PM, lol!

big :D

you know very well bg that it has been some time since I pulled the daylight saving soap box from out of the cupboard…

they should draw the border from the top of South Aussie to Gympie and make the top half Qld and the bottom bit Northern New South Wales… dubber wannabes.

personally I like daylight saving time, but I am not one for getting up at daybreak.

i love daylight savings get up with the sun and head to bed around 9-10pm.

Dinetta said:

pain master said:

11mms overnight :)

for the record books, it is now 126 days since the mercury dropped below 20C at night and we have had 46 days in a row where the temperature has sailed above 30C.

currently 31C outside, 69% humidity and the barometer is falling at 1003.7

624.4mms for the year so far

and my two-bobs on daylight savings… when is Qld going to wake up, this morning sunrise was at 0445 and sunset at 1830. If you had daylight savings, you would not be woken up by the sun at 0445 but at a more respectable 0545 and you wouldn’t have to turn on your interior lights until at least 1930. You would save electricity.

I like getting up at 4:00 in the morning, you can get a lot of gardening and things done before 7:00 am then, when it is cool and not when the day still needs to lose heat…

We don’t turn our interior lights on until 18:30…what’s the go with this point? Most people I know (but not us) have their dinner at 18:00…not sure why…in the daylight…doesn’t seem normal having dinner in broad daylight…

Until they move up here, most people don’t realize that the Qld day is hot from about 8:00 am to nearly 20:00 hrs, anyway…

The thermometer hits 30 C very soon after 8:00 (if not before) and stays up there until well after sundown…stays up there all night too if the inversion breezes don’t come (also known as the 8:30 breeze, the 9 o’clock breeze, etc etc)

…and this is the general rule from about September (definitely October) to April (end of)…

(stirrer!)

I’m on Dinetta’s side. Couldn’t have said it any better than that.

DL saving doesn’t really affect us anymore because we’re retired but I can feel for those that find it a pain in the butt.

It was 31C in my kitchen (one of the coolest rooms in the house) at 20:00 hrs last night, before I began to cook dinner…a ten minute affair on my gas range…thankfully the 8:30 breeze powered up not long after and started cooling things down…

Quite frankly, I still think Australia would have been better, climate-wise, to have been settled by a country whose lifestyle included a siesta in the heat of the day instead of the John Bull dawn to dusk mentality…

pain master said:

colliewa said:

and my two-bobs on daylight savings… when is Qld going to wake up, this morning sunrise was at 0445 and sunset at 1830. If you had daylight savings, you would not be woken up by the sun at 0445 but at a more respectable 0545 and you wouldn’t have to turn on your interior lights until at least 1930. You would save electricity.

====

Joh’s legacy continues… LOL

not at all. You shift people’s habits and a shift occurs in the dynamics of what they do when… I’ll explain.

I get up when the sun is up. A lot of people are like that. I start work at say 0700. If I get up at 0445, then I will realise that I have a bit more time to get ready for work… I take a longer shower, I may shave, I may cook myself some breakfast, I will then go to work. I have used some fairly serious amounts of energy before I have even left for work.

I’m driving home after work, I stop at the shops and pick up something, I may see a friend at the pub and get a Cooper’s light. I drive home and it is around 1815, for safety sake, I drive with my lights on, and when I get home, the lights in the house come on, and I cook dinner inside with all the lights on, I take another shower and a shave and at 2230 I goto bed after consuming some serious amount of energy. My carbon footprint is solid.

With daylightsavings, I wake up at 0545, and realising there ain’t so much time, I take a shorter shower, I don’t shave, last night’s effort was good enough, I make cereal because it is quick and easy and I go to work. Later I return home, visit shops and Pubs and return at a time where it is still light enough to BBQ the dinner outside without lights and only after dinner do I light up the house. I shower and shave and go to bed at 2230. My Carbon Footprint is no where near as heavy as it was in example 1.

With the extra money I save, I buy a Solar Hot water System/Toyota Prius and some shares in Lihir Gold.

I’m feeling greener already :)

But no, Qbillies living in Brisvegas feel the need to have the sun rise at 0445 in the morning… introduce daylight savings to the South East and leave the tropics to having their 6am to 6pm sun show…

Not so sure I shoul come into this discussion………………………but.

The energy using factor is all true but on the family side, what about the farmer who never gets to see his kids because he works from sunup to sunset no matter what the time is. He never eats dinner with them and never gets to catch up on the broadcast news. Meanwhile Mum is having a nightly battle trying to coax her kids to sleep while the sun is still high in the sky. That one I have experienced myself.

pain master said:

bluegreen said:

whatever you say PM, lol!

big :D

you know very well bg that it has been some time since I pulled the daylight saving soap box from out of the cupboard…

they should draw the border from the top of South Aussie to Gympie and make the top half Qld and the bottom bit Northern New South Wales… dubber wannabes.

There was a time when there were moves afoot to make Northern Q’d a separate State with Townsville as it’s Capital. It all fell in a heap but I’m darned if I can remember why.

veg gardener said:

bluegreen said:

pain master said:

bluegreen said:

whatever you say PM, lol!

big :D

you know very well bg that it has been some time since I pulled the daylight saving soap box from out of the cupboard…

they should draw the border from the top of South Aussie to Gympie and make the top half Qld and the bottom bit Northern New South Wales… dubber wannabes.

personally I like daylight saving time, but I am not one for getting up at daybreak.

i love daylight savings get up with the sun and head to bed around 9-10pm.

Notice that it’s city dwellers (Brisbane) and Southerners who sing the praises of DL saving.

Just heard on the teev that SA is in for a lot of rain. I hope it’s true. It will make Christmas a more joyous occasion for you all.

It will allow one farmer I know to join us down there for Christmas. Up till now he is carting water every day for his sheep with no Xmas festivities planned.

pomolo said:

Notice that it’s city dwellers (Brisbane) and Southerners who sing the praises of DL saving.

that’s because it makes a bigger difference down here, being further away from the equator, although I can’t speak for the brisbanites…

pomolo said:

Just heard on the teev that SA is in for a lot of rain. I hope it’s true. It will make Christmas a more joyous occasion for you all.

It will allow one farmer I know to join us down there for Christmas. Up till now he is carting water every day for his sheep with no Xmas festivities planned.

they are saying we should get some good rain in the next few days too :)

Dinetta said:

It was 31C in my kitchen (one of the coolest rooms in the house) at 20:00 hrs last night, before I began to cook dinner…a ten minute affair on my gas range…thankfully the 8:30 breeze powered up not long after and started cooling things down…

Quite frankly, I still think Australia would have been better, climate-wise, to have been settled by a country whose lifestyle included a siesta in the heat of the day instead of the John Bull dawn to dusk mentality…

I guess living that far from the coast you deserve 31C at 2000. Try Adelaide in Feb for 36C at 0100?

pomolo said:

pain master said:

colliewa said:

and my two-bobs on daylight savings… when is Qld going to wake up, this morning sunrise was at 0445 and sunset at 1830. If you had daylight savings, you would not be woken up by the sun at 0445 but at a more respectable 0545 and you wouldn’t have to turn on your interior lights until at least 1930. You would save electricity.

====

Joh’s legacy continues… LOL

not at all. You shift people’s habits and a shift occurs in the dynamics of what they do when… I’ll explain.

I get up when the sun is up. A lot of people are like that. I start work at say 0700. If I get up at 0445, then I will realise that I have a bit more time to get ready for work… I take a longer shower, I may shave, I may cook myself some breakfast, I will then go to work. I have used some fairly serious amounts of energy before I have even left for work.

I’m driving home after work, I stop at the shops and pick up something, I may see a friend at the pub and get a Cooper’s light. I drive home and it is around 1815, for safety sake, I drive with my lights on, and when I get home, the lights in the house come on, and I cook dinner inside with all the lights on, I take another shower and a shave and at 2230 I goto bed after consuming some serious amount of energy. My carbon footprint is solid.

With daylightsavings, I wake up at 0545, and realising there ain’t so much time, I take a shorter shower, I don’t shave, last night’s effort was good enough, I make cereal because it is quick and easy and I go to work. Later I return home, visit shops and Pubs and return at a time where it is still light enough to BBQ the dinner outside without lights and only after dinner do I light up the house. I shower and shave and go to bed at 2230. My Carbon Footprint is no where near as heavy as it was in example 1.

With the extra money I save, I buy a Solar Hot water System/Toyota Prius and some shares in Lihir Gold.

I’m feeling greener already :)

But no, Qbillies living in Brisvegas feel the need to have the sun rise at 0445 in the morning… introduce daylight savings to the South East and leave the tropics to having their 6am to 6pm sun show…

Not so sure I shoul come into this discussion………………………but.

The energy using factor is all true but on the family side, what about the farmer who never gets to see his kids because he works from sunup to sunset no matter what the time is. He never eats dinner with them and never gets to catch up on the broadcast news. Meanwhile Mum is having a nightly battle trying to coax her kids to sleep while the sun is still high in the sky. That one I have experienced myself.

ok. PM pulls soapbox out… The Farmer will work sunup to sunset regardless of his clock, regardless of daylightsavings. The Mum, well, seeing as the majority of voting/tax paying Qbillies live in the SEast Corner, the dispute of getting the kiddies to bed at 1930 instead of 1830 is very very marginal… I can understand that there maybe some kids and Farmers who live out West and the sun sets a little later there….

But as a child growing up in South Australia, where the Sun doesn’t set until 2100, I never had problems getting to sleep.

Second comment: Did you honestly enjoy listening to your kids wake up at 0445? An extra hours sleep in the morning may be more appreciative then the hassle of getting them to sleep at night. The Human Body will adapt easier to going to sleep when it is tired (I have seen kids asleep in the middle of the day) as opposed to not waking up when the sun has risen.

pomolo said:

pain master said:

bluegreen said:

whatever you say PM, lol!

big :D

you know very well bg that it has been some time since I pulled the daylight saving soap box from out of the cupboard…

they should draw the border from the top of South Aussie to Gympie and make the top half Qld and the bottom bit Northern New South Wales… dubber wannabes.

There was a time when there were moves afoot to make Northern Q’d a separate State with Townsville as it’s Capital. It all fell in a heap but I’m darned if I can remember why.

Let’s start a movement.

Rain porn:D

Oohh Lucky and S’oz people that looks good :D
Rain forcast for Vic tomorrow too..

Happy Potter said:

Oohh Lucky and S’oz people that looks good :D
Rain forcast for Vic tomorrow too..

Well we are hoping for a minimum of 5 mm for our backyard.

Lucky1 said:

Rain porn:D

You perve…

I took a look too.

pain master said:

Lucky1 said:

Rain porn:D

You perve…

i stopped watching the tv to sit on the verandah – very nice – keep it coming.

I took a look too.

pain master said:

pomolo said:

pain master said:

colliewa said:

and my two-bobs on daylight savings… when is Qld going to wake up, this morning sunrise was at 0445 and sunset at 1830. If you had daylight savings, you would not be woken up by the sun at 0445 but at a more respectable 0545 and you wouldn’t have to turn on your interior lights until at least 1930. You would save electricity.

====

Joh’s legacy continues… LOL

not at all. You shift people’s habits and a shift occurs in the dynamics of what they do when… I’ll explain.

I get up when the sun is up. A lot of people are like that. I start work at say 0700. If I get up at 0445, then I will realise that I have a bit more time to get ready for work… I take a longer shower, I may shave, I may cook myself some breakfast, I will then go to work. I have used some fairly serious amounts of energy before I have even left for work.

I’m driving home after work, I stop at the shops and pick up something, I may see a friend at the pub and get a Cooper’s light. I drive home and it is around 1815, for safety sake, I drive with my lights on, and when I get home, the lights in the house come on, and I cook dinner inside with all the lights on, I take another shower and a shave and at 2230 I goto bed after consuming some serious amount of energy. My carbon footprint is solid.

With daylightsavings, I wake up at 0545, and realising there ain’t so much time, I take a shorter shower, I don’t shave, last night’s effort was good enough, I make cereal because it is quick and easy and I go to work. Later I return home, visit shops and Pubs and return at a time where it is still light enough to BBQ the dinner outside without lights and only after dinner do I light up the house. I shower and shave and go to bed at 2230. My Carbon Footprint is no where near as heavy as it was in example 1.

With the extra money I save, I buy a Solar Hot water System/Toyota Prius and some shares in Lihir Gold.

I’m feeling greener already :)

But no, Qbillies living in Brisvegas feel the need to have the sun rise at 0445 in the morning… introduce daylight savings to the South East and leave the tropics to having their 6am to 6pm sun show…

Not so sure I shoul come into this discussion………………………but.

The energy using factor is all true but on the family side, what about the farmer who never gets to see his kids because he works from sunup to sunset no matter what the time is. He never eats dinner with them and never gets to catch up on the broadcast news. Meanwhile Mum is having a nightly battle trying to coax her kids to sleep while the sun is still high in the sky. That one I have experienced myself.

ok. PM pulls soapbox out… The Farmer will work sunup to sunset regardless of his clock, regardless of daylightsavings. The Mum, well, seeing as the majority of voting/tax paying Qbillies live in the SEast Corner, the dispute of getting the kiddies to bed at 1930 instead of 1830 is very very marginal… I can understand that there maybe some kids and Farmers who live out West and the sun sets a little later there….

But as a child growing up in South Australia, where the Sun doesn’t set until 2100, I never had problems getting to sleep.

Second comment: Did you honestly enjoy listening to your kids wake up at 0445? An extra hours sleep in the morning may be more appreciative then the hassle of getting them to sleep at night. The Human Body will adapt easier to going to sleep when it is tired (I have seen kids asleep in the middle of the day) as opposed to not waking up when the sun has risen.

Small childred do sleep through the day. In fact they sleep most of the day and night. Older children fight like the devil to stay out of bed, nightly. Sunhine is such a good excuse for them to use.

Your longer shower, shave and cooked breakfast was a bit thin as an argument. Specially since the shaving round here is done with a razor. I noticed you said “I may have a shave.” Not very likely knowing you.

Did I enjoy my kids waking up at 0445? Never found it a problem. We have always been early risers. It was the never wanting to get out of bed in the mornings when they got older that was a thorn in the side.

Dusting off soapbox for you!

pain master said:

Lucky1 said:

Rain porn:D

You perve…

I took a look too.

couldn’t see anything for the blue stuff :)

Woohoo – we have HEAVY rain forecast for tomorrow here. Glad I did all my spraying today :)

pain master said:

Lucky1 said:

Rain porn:D

You perve…

Wow a three-some….;P

I took a look too.

pomolo said:

pain master said:

pomolo said:

pain master said:

colliewa said:

and my two-bobs on daylight savings… when is Qld going to wake up, this morning sunrise was at 0445 and sunset at 1830. If you had daylight savings, you would not be woken up by the sun at 0445 but at a more respectable 0545 and you wouldn’t have to turn on your interior lights until at least 1930. You would save electricity.

====

Joh’s legacy continues… LOL

not at all. You shift people’s habits and a shift occurs in the dynamics of what they do when… I’ll explain.

I get up when the sun is up. A lot of people are like that. I start work at say 0700. If I get up at 0445, then I will realise that I have a bit more time to get ready for work… I take a longer shower, I may shave, I may cook myself some breakfast, I will then go to work. I have used some fairly serious amounts of energy before I have even left for work.

I’m driving home after work, I stop at the shops and pick up something, I may see a friend at the pub and get a Cooper’s light. I drive home and it is around 1815, for safety sake, I drive with my lights on, and when I get home, the lights in the house come on, and I cook dinner inside with all the lights on, I take another shower and a shave and at 2230 I goto bed after consuming some serious amount of energy. My carbon footprint is solid.

With daylightsavings, I wake up at 0545, and realising there ain’t so much time, I take a shorter shower, I don’t shave, last night’s effort was good enough, I make cereal because it is quick and easy and I go to work. Later I return home, visit shops and Pubs and return at a time where it is still light enough to BBQ the dinner outside without lights and only after dinner do I light up the house. I shower and shave and go to bed at 2230. My Carbon Footprint is no where near as heavy as it was in example 1.

With the extra money I save, I buy a Solar Hot water System/Toyota Prius and some shares in Lihir Gold.

I’m feeling greener already :)

But no, Qbillies living in Brisvegas feel the need to have the sun rise at 0445 in the morning… introduce daylight savings to the South East and leave the tropics to having their 6am to 6pm sun show…

Not so sure I shoul come into this discussion………………………but.

The energy using factor is all true but on the family side, what about the farmer who never gets to see his kids because he works from sunup to sunset no matter what the time is. He never eats dinner with them and never gets to catch up on the broadcast news. Meanwhile Mum is having a nightly battle trying to coax her kids to sleep while the sun is still high in the sky. That one I have experienced myself.

ok. PM pulls soapbox out… The Farmer will work sunup to sunset regardless of his clock, regardless of daylightsavings. The Mum, well, seeing as the majority of voting/tax paying Qbillies live in the SEast Corner, the dispute of getting the kiddies to bed at 1930 instead of 1830 is very very marginal… I can understand that there maybe some kids and Farmers who live out West and the sun sets a little later there….

But as a child growing up in South Australia, where the Sun doesn’t set until 2100, I never had problems getting to sleep.

Second comment: Did you honestly enjoy listening to your kids wake up at 0445? An extra hours sleep in the morning may be more appreciative then the hassle of getting them to sleep at night. The Human Body will adapt easier to going to sleep when it is tired (I have seen kids asleep in the middle of the day) as opposed to not waking up when the sun has risen.

Small childred do sleep through the day. In fact they sleep most of the day and night. Older children fight like the devil to stay out of bed, nightly. Sunhine is such a good excuse for them to use.

Your longer shower, shave and cooked breakfast was a bit thin as an argument. Specially since the shaving round here is done with a razor. I noticed you said “I may have a shave.” Not very likely knowing you.

Did I enjoy my kids waking up at 0445? Never found it a problem. We have always been early risers. It was the never wanting to get out of bed in the mornings when they got older that was a thorn in the side.

Dusting off soapbox for you!

Good call and fair comment re: shaving… and I’ll have you know, I did shave a few days ago… Might even shave again this weekend??? The beard grew throughout the chill of a Moresby winter…

You still hark on about getting the kids to bed, when in Brisvegas (land of the voters and tax payers), the evening sunset will be only 1930… not a bad time for nanights. I still stand by the fact that despite the sun not setting until 2100 in Adelaide, I still got enough Zzzzzz.

and you didn’t mind the kids waking up at 0445 because you were woken up by a sunrise and such a rude hour. You would have lurved the sun rising at a sensible time like 0545…. every other mexican does.

and besides, 6 out of 7 states can’t be wrong. (I include NT, but not that incestural ACT thingo)

pain master said:

and besides, 6 out of 7 states can’t be wrong. (I include NT, but not that incestural ACT thingo)

Don’t count your chickens, WA hasn’t voted yet. And I don’t think we’ve ever been known to vote Yes for ANYTHING :( I love living here but for crikey’s sake I don’t see why we’re such a state of naysayers..

=/

Not sure how much rain we got over night…. too dark to go and see, but I know it was 10.4 on the BOM page……Just so happy with what was sent down for us. After all those predictions of rain that came to nothing.

25 mm here between 6 AM and 9 AM still a bit of rain about.

and besides, 6 out of 7 states can’t be wrong. (I include NT, but not that incestural ACT thingo)

——————-

You reckon? So how come so many of them come to live in the fabuluoous Q’land? They get here, settle right in, then try to change our way of life by pushing for daylight saving.

Boom! Boom!

yay finally I can say we had rain….
still raining as we speak….errrr write…errr type ……65mm so far and still raining

Lucky1 said:

Not sure how much rain we got over night…. too dark to go and see, but I know it was 10.4 on the BOM page……Just so happy with what was sent down for us. After all those predictions of rain that came to nothing.

21mm in the gauge this morning and its still raining here north of adelaide.
lovely stuff – the relief is palpable in garden and gardener.
all my december 6th garden is up and loving it.

Still waiting here.

drylander1 said:

yay finally I can say we had rain….
still raining as we speak….errrr write…errr type ……65mm so far and still raining

WOW! hope you have some bouyancy vests!

good to see your moniker up there again drylander :)

raining here as well.

It’s hitting Victoria now and there predicting a good 40mm of rain, should fill the tanks and get me through to at least April if it doesn’t rain again

Rook

Rook said:

It’s hitting Victoria now and there predicting a good 40mm of rain, should fill the tanks and get me through to at least April if it doesn’t rain again

Rook

bring it on! (although I don’t expect to get as much as 40mm)

I emptied the rainwater tank onto the tomatoes yesterday.

It is full again now.

So far I have 30mm and still drizzly

veg gardener said:

raining here as well.

and here on the south coast. But not as much as the rest of you have by the sounds of things. We had 4.5mm in the gauge this morning

I was getting worried about how we were going to fare through summer if it didn’t rain now… and happily this is the best fall for a while.

Where are you roughbark?

where am I?

approx 35.3° S 146.1° E

roughbarked said:

where am I?

approx 35.3° S 146.1° E

Somewhere near Jerilderie Rd

Keep going North to the top of this map http://mirror.bom.gov.au/products/IDR492.shtml

roughbarked said:

Keep going North to the top of this map http://mirror.bom.gov.au/products/IDR492.shtml

good to see your getting the rain up there

:) I’m smiling.. it was getting pretty bad here.. actually yes .. 34.8° S 146.1° E

bluegreen said:

drylander1 said:

yay finally I can say we had rain….
still raining as we speak….errrr write…errr type ……65mm so far and still raining

WOW! hope you have some bouyancy vests!

good to see your moniker up there again drylander :)

its not a downpour for a change just nice staedy soaking rain. we had 15mm earlier this week so this is soaking in nicely

drylander1 said:

bluegreen said:

drylander1 said:

yay finally I can say we had rain….
still raining as we speak….errrr write…errr type ……65mm so far and still raining

WOW! hope you have some bouyancy vests!

good to see your moniker up there again drylander :)

its not a downpour for a change just nice staedy soaking rain. we had 15mm earlier this week so this is soaking in nicely

that’s great :)

We’re getting steady soaking rain now too :)

orchid40 said:

We’re getting steady soaking rain now too :)

same here.
the roads are wet and car tyres make a different sound.
we had 33mm in the gauge by lunchtime.

orchid40 said:

We’re getting steady soaking rain now too :)

I’ve been watching it on the radar :)
Best show I’ve seen in a long time! lol!

bluegreen said:

orchid40 said:

We’re getting steady soaking rain now too :)

I’ve been watching it on the radar :)
Best show I’ve seen in a long time! lol!

Here here!
I went out and got soaked just to make sure it was wet LOL!
Really soaking in :D

pomolo said:

and besides, 6 out of 7 states can’t be wrong. (I include NT, but not that incestural ACT thingo)

——————-

You reckon? So how come so many of them come to live in the fabuluoous Q’land? They get here, settle right in, then try to change our way of life by pushing for daylight saving.

Boom! Boom!

They generally only last one summer of our “daylight saving”…the thing is with a little adjustment you don’t save daylight at all here…it’s a northern hemisphere invention…the siesta was a closer-to-the-equator lifestyle necessity…

N E ways, getting back to Mexicans and their demand for daylight saving in Queensland…one summer and they’re not keen on the idea any more…I’ve never met a southerner who’s lived through one summer of our “daylight savings” – whether they’ve got offspring or no – who want the scenario revisited any time soon…

and you didn’t mind the kids waking up at 0445 because you were woken up by a sunrise and such a rude hour. You would have lurved the sun rising at a sensible time like 0545….
++++++++

we became accustomed to the crop dusters waking us up a minute past official daylight…it’s been more peacable since they introduced special tractors that do the spraying and anyway, after the first two children, one becomes accustomed to a 24/7 interrupted clock…

What’s wrong with getting up at the earlier hour? Like I said, it’s the coolest part of the day up here…you get more done and you don’t trip over much of the population getting things done…

Dinetta said:

and you didn’t mind the kids waking up at 0445 because you were woken up by a sunrise and such a rude hour. You would have lurved the sun rising at a sensible time like 0545….
++++++++

we became accustomed to the crop dusters waking us up a minute past official daylight…it’s been more peacable since they introduced special tractors that do the spraying and anyway, after the first two children, one becomes accustomed to a 24/7 interrupted clock…

What’s wrong with getting up at the earlier hour? Like I said, it’s the coolest part of the day up here…you get more done and you don’t trip over much of the population getting things done…

I’ve been doing a bit of looking into sleep disorders recently (was hoping to work out why I’m always pretty tired, but I did find out that my brother has an actual sleep disorder). I’m getting the impression that sleep is more complicated than it looks – some people’s schedules just work differently, and it can be really hard or impossible to adjust without drugs. Anyone been watching Sleep Clinic on ABC2? That sleepy teenager on that last episode was amazing!!

Not putting this forward as pro or anti DLS, just a point of interest :)

4mm so far here and still falling. They are predicting 40mm for tomorrow, and wind.

bluegreen said:

4mm so far here and still falling. They are predicting 40mm for tomorrow, and wind.

I haven’t checked since this morning but I would guess we’ve had between 15-20mm so far today. Kepp it coming! My tank will appreciate it!

15 mm in my rain guage and still falling steadily. All my water tubs and 240 lt bins are full :)

The sand in the chooks yard is working well..last time we got this sort of rain they were drumstick deep in mud.

Happy Potter said:

15 mm in my rain guage and still falling steadily. All my water tubs and 240 lt bins are full :)

The sand in the chooks yard is working well..last time we got this sort of rain they were drumstick deep in mud.

yep i am over the rain and overcast days its ment to be summer, normally this time of year its boiling hot.

nice to see the rain in northern nsw but its to late after the floods they have had up a Tamworth.

on the weather site they said it should stop raining till after tuesday. it wont dry out enough, to go dig a few holes and finish all the drains.

bluegreen said:

4mm so far here and still falling. They are predicting 40mm for tomorrow, and wind.

easing off now after 9mm :)

eased off here.

ranining here again may go watch some tv.

39 mm of rain measured since it started to rain last night.

I mean how much fun can a gardener have, I ask ewe…..???? :D

Making a pile of zucchini slices tomorrow as I have zeppelins out the back, with all the rain.

raining again – up to 11mm now :)

bluegreen said:

raining again – up to 11mm now :)

Oh that is great…..:)

Lucky1 said:

bluegreen said:

raining again – up to 11mm now :)

Oh that is great…..:)

my drums are overflowing :)

Still going here. haven’t been to look at the raingauge yet. :D

bluegreen said:

Lucky1 said:

bluegreen said:

raining again – up to 11mm now :)

Oh that is great…..:)

my drums are overflowing :)

Good, Innit ??

orchid40 said:

Still going here. haven’t been to look at the raingauge yet. :D

mine’s remote so I can read it from inside :)

bluegreen said:

orchid40 said:

Still going here. haven’t been to look at the raingauge yet. :D

mine’s remote so I can read it from inside :)

still raining here.

Morning Veg—still some rain about—everything growing like mad—all good

Grasshopper said:

Morning Veg—still some rain about—everything growing like mad—all good

yeah our tanks and dams are full.

Yes glad I mowed the other day

yeah i mowed last weekend. wish it would stop for the rest of the year and my holidays.

Mowing here has to be done twice a week now—going to be hot today—and very steamy

Grasshopper said:

Mowing here has to be done twice a week now—going to be hot today—and very steamy

mmmm hopefully all the lawn and paddocks dry out.

They dry out very quick here

yeah thats the same here it will take a few days with the sun out and no rain.

I am on a hill so all dry in no time—and sandy soil too

Grasshopper said:

I am on a hill so all dry in no time—and sandy soil too

yeah

So when do you start work Veg

Grasshopper said:

So when do you start work Veg

5th of jan

Good on you Veg is it with the bloke you did work exper’ with

Grasshopper said:

Good on you Veg is it with the bloke you did work exper’ with

yeah it is.

veg gardener said:

woops thats from yesterday they haven’t updated the radar yet.

wounder if this will come up

Goodness me , all this beautiful rain! My rain guage was overflowing. 40 mm and still going. I hope the catchments are getting it.

Sorry we nabbed your “rain” thread to talk about daylight saving. I apologise for all of us.

It’s great to read about the rain you are all getting down there. Rain like that breathes new life into everything.

pomolo said:

Sorry we nabbed your “rain” thread to talk about daylight saving. I apologise for all of us.

It’s great to read about the rain you are all getting down there. Rain like that breathes new life into everything.

its ok pomolo. you getting any rain up north, i don’t think we need any more of it.

47mm north of adelaide.
it all soaked in so none of it flowed to the swale – which is my low point.
the fear now is that the grass will go beserk.

Happy Potter said:

Goodness me , all this beautiful rain! My rain guage was overflowing. 40 mm and still going. I hope the catchments are getting it.

yep. I have had 36mm so I am not far behind you :)

I am going to have to eat my words when I said I didn’t think it would get to 40mm! But I don’t mind, lol!

bluegreen said:

Happy Potter said:

Goodness me , all this beautiful rain! My rain guage was overflowing. 40 mm and still going. I hope the catchments are getting it.

yep. I have had 36mm so I am not far behind you :)

I am going to have to eat my words when I said I didn’t think it would get to 40mm! But I don’t mind, lol!

BG me too. I laboured hard yesterday to fill big bins, carried buckets of water as they filled and watered all the patio plant pots..not believing it would rain again. Now my yard is a massive pond lol. Just starting to ease off here. 47mls so far.

39 mm here that I measured late yesterday, drizzly rain today…

51mm here and counting…………………..
Dang I forgot to cover the compost – another soggy mess to deal with later :(

G’day all. A quick visit today. We had 29mm in the gauge this morning

looks like Rain is heading this way tonight… some thunder and black clouds just sitting over the hills…..

And it’s still raining! :D

We’ve had a total of 65 mm here so far. Building an Ark.

veg gardener said:

pomolo said:

Sorry we nabbed your “rain” thread to talk about daylight saving. I apologise for all of us.

It’s great to read about the rain you are all getting down there. Rain like that breathes new life into everything.

its ok pomolo. you getting any rain up north, i don’t think we need any more of it.

No Veg. Nothing up here. Our predicted rain and storm was another fizzer!

pomolo said:

veg gardener said:

pomolo said:

Sorry we nabbed your “rain” thread to talk about daylight saving. I apologise for all of us.

It’s great to read about the rain you are all getting down there. Rain like that breathes new life into everything.

its ok pomolo. you getting any rain up north, i don’t think we need any more of it.

No Veg. Nothing up here. Our predicted rain and storm was another fizzer!

yeah, its sunny here again today YAY!!!

45 mm yesterday..another 35 mm here overnight..
I’m in shock. I don’t know which way to run.. what to water… but nothing needs watering :D:D

Happy Potter said:

45 mm yesterday..another 35 mm here overnight..
I’m in shock. I don’t know which way to run.. what to water… but nothing needs watering :D:D

sit back and relax.

veg gardener said:

Happy Potter said:

45 mm yesterday..another 35 mm here overnight..
I’m in shock. I don’t know which way to run.. what to water… but nothing needs watering :D:D

sit back and relax.

Yes for sure Veg.
It’d all drained very well here too, no puddles in the chooks run, or anywhere else..it’s all soaked in beautifully :)

Happy Potter said:

veg gardener said:

Happy Potter said:

45 mm yesterday..another 35 mm here overnight..
I’m in shock. I don’t know which way to run.. what to water… but nothing needs watering :D:D

sit back and relax.

Yes for sure Veg.
It’d all drained very well here too, no puddles in the chooks run, or anywhere else..it’s all soaked in beautifully :)

still some puddles here i think where yesterday arvo.

Happy Potter said:

45 mm yesterday..another 35 mm here overnight..
I’m in shock. I don’t know which way to run.. what to water… but nothing needs watering :D:D

LOL at HP.

orchid40 said:

We’ve had a total of 65 mm here so far. Building an Ark.

51mm for me :)

just started watering the garden beds near the house paddock boundary fence and it started raining as soon as the tap went on.

we had some misty showers this morning but not much in it

The Rains are coming.

Apparently we received 30-odd mil (about 120 points) last Saturday…must have been a narrow storm, thank goodness it had our name on it…we noticed as soon as we turned into our street last night, puddles everywhere and the mud caking on the drive…

I guess I can expect a second nesting of the willy wagtails, if not the pee wits…

Rain…Yay!!!!!

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p70/beaver_album/th_Rain31-3-09.jpg

Try again

http://s125.photobucket.com/albums/p70/beaver_album/?action=view¤t=Rain31-3-09.jpg

Oh poo! I give up. Don’t know what I did wrong today

AnneS said:

Try again

http://s125.photobucket.com/albums/p70/beaver_album/?action=view¤t=Rain31-3-09.jpg

See if this works then

Oh well…it’s raining anyway…you don’t really need to see the radar map

Oh Anne good luck with the rain…maybe a shower on Friday here….. think the lawn would get more water if I went out and peed on it instead………LOL

Lucky1 said:

Oh Anne good luck with the rain…maybe a shower on Friday here….. think the lawn would get more water if I went out and peed on it instead………LOL

It’s only showers at the moment, but every little bit helps. Had a heavy downpour for about 5 minutes at 5 o’clock. Been raining now for about 10 minutes…easing off but looking at the radar it might hang around for a bit. Forecast to be more tomorrow as well

AnneS said:

Lucky1 said:

Oh Anne good luck with the rain…maybe a shower on Friday here….. think the lawn would get more water if I went out and peed on it instead………LOL

It’s only showers at the moment, but every little bit helps. Had a heavy downpour for about 5 minutes at 5 o’clock. Been raining now for about 10 minutes…easing off but looking at the radar it might hang around for a bit. Forecast to be more tomorrow as well

Morning all. 7.5mm yesterday, 42.5mm today. Yay, a couple of rungs in the tank! We are lucky, the landlord set up for us to get run-off from the bif shed as well as the house, so we don’t need huge amounts of rain to keep the tank topped up.

We had another 7 mm in the last 24hrs (makes it 40mm all up this week). Luckier than up north. Although we have had a few heavy showers most of the rain this week has been gentle soaking stuff. Should help repair the damage from last week’s wind.

AnneS said:

We had another 7 mm in the last 24hrs (makes it 40mm all up this week). Luckier than up north. Although we have had a few heavy showers most of the rain this week has been gentle soaking stuff. Should help repair the damage from last week’s wind.

Good to hear, AnneS

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/05/23/2578931.htm

For those who like to read about weather patterns

Dinetta said:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/05/23/2578931.htm

For those who like to read about weather patterns

I don’t know why anyone would think that this is unusual. Although devastating for those involved, flooding has been as much a part of Australian weather as have droughts. And floods follow droughts. Considering we have had a long period of drought, then heavy flooding can be expected.

bluegreen said:

Dinetta said:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/05/23/2578931.htm

For those who like to read about weather patterns

I don’t know why anyone would think that this is unusual. Although devastating for those involved, flooding has been as much a part of Australian weather as have droughts. And floods follow droughts. Considering we have had a long period of drought, then heavy flooding can be expected.

I think the person said it was “unseasonal”….