Date: 22/05/2016 23:03:16
From: dv
ID: 895066
Subject: Gravity Hill, Forrestfield

Introduction

I heard tell of a Gravity Hill in Forrestfield, in Perth’s eastern suburbs.

I haven’t been out there yet, but it is pretty easy to work out what is going on from topography maps.

Background

These gravity hills, sometimes called magnetic hills, are places where people report that their cars roll uphill. There are dozens of them around the world. Sometimes people even make money off them, but you can only do that if they are in an out of the way place that is hard to find.
SPOILERS: they always turn out to be an optical illusion but the details vary. Sometimes the illusion is caused by the presence of trees that have been tilted by shifting soil or storms. Usually, though, it is due to an inflection in road grade giving the impression of a rise ahead. Usually when you get out of your car, the illusion is destroyed.

Forrestfield Gravity Hill

The Forrestfield Gravity Hill, also called Magnetic Hill, lies between two turns along Holmes Road. It is in the vicinity of 200 Holmes Road.
The stretch of road is about 200 metres long. The effect works when travelling westward.

Here’s an example of a video of someone experiencing this effect.

By comparing this guy’s vision with Google Street Maps I’ve determined his starting location.

I have obtained his altitude (elevation) from the data at Topographic-map.com, which ultimately gets its data from the satellite derived ASTER map.

His starting elevation is approximately 86 metres. He is on a stretch of road with a gradient of about 3%, and he’s rolling downhill.

He starts about 100 metres from the beginning of the turn. The elevation near the start of the turn is 83 metres.

Over the course of the left turn, the elevation decreases about 8 metres in the space of an 80 metre run, ie the gradient is around 10%.

Note that there is foliage behind this turn, obscuring the horizon.

Summary

There are three factors that aid the impression that one is approaching the crest of a hillock in this case.

Firstly, and most importantly, there is a fairly sharp increase in grade at one point in the road, which looks basically the same as a gentle peak in elevation would look to a driver.

Secondly, the fact that is a left turn combined with this sharp grade inflection means that the road past that point is completely hidden from the driver. If the road was straight then the driver would have more visual information about the elevations: as it is, the road seems to “disappear”.

Thirdly, the presence of trees behind the grade inflection means that the driver can’t see the horizon, or anything distant. If the driver could see the horizon, it would be obvious that he is heading downwards.

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Date: 22/05/2016 23:09:24
From: dv
ID: 895068
Subject: re: Gravity Hill, Forrestfield

Aaaand here’s the link to the video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zswpsdH8d2Q

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Date: 22/05/2016 23:16:20
From: sibeen
ID: 895069
Subject: re: Gravity Hill, Forrestfield

KILLJOY!

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Date: 22/05/2016 23:28:53
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 895070
Subject: re: Gravity Hill, Forrestfield

One in Victoria:

http://www.mountmacedon.org.au/places/anti-gravity-hill

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Date: 23/05/2016 00:10:20
From: dv
ID: 895074
Subject: re: Gravity Hill, Forrestfield

Thanks, WR.

That piece contains a link to another video, and again using Google Street View I’ve determined that they start at 37.356072 S 144.6063365 E. They travel northwards along Straws Lane.

His starting elevation is 709 metres. He is on a gentle downward grade of about 1.5%. He doesn’t travel far in this video, but the road continues to descend at around 1.5% for 200 metres of road, dropping to 706 metres elevation. It then continues on an even more gentle grade, dropping about 2 metres to 704 metres elevation over the next 200 metres of road.

After that, there is (wait for it) a sharp grade inflection, and the road starts descending at a grade of about 10%, dropping 20 metres in elevation over the next 200 metres of road.

The area behind the inflection is partly obscured by trees.

One difference between this and the Forrestfield case is that there is no turn immediately after the inflection (there is a left turn further down the road.)

On the other hand, I think the upward inflection helps to give the impression of a rise in the road.

It helps that you are coming off Mount Macedon, which is the highest area in that part of the country. There are no higher hills to be seen in the northern direction.

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Date: 23/05/2016 00:47:07
From: kii
ID: 895080
Subject: re: Gravity Hill, Forrestfield

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAOAxXBjvcQ

Ghost Children save people.

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Date: 23/05/2016 02:44:28
From: huey
ID: 895084
Subject: re: Gravity Hill, Forrestfield

http://www.mountmacedon.org.au/places/anti-gravity-hill

done that on my bike

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Date: 23/05/2016 02:44:30
From: huey
ID: 895085
Subject: re: Gravity Hill, Forrestfield

http://www.mountmacedon.org.au/places/anti-gravity-hill

done that on my bike

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Date: 23/05/2016 09:15:05
From: stumpy_seahorse
ID: 895142
Subject: re: Gravity Hill, Forrestfield

there’s one about 60km north of here

https://www.tripadvisor.com.au/Attraction_Review-g499722-d3440207-Reviews-Magnetic_Hill-Peterborough_South_Australia.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5d3L41LKflg

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