Date: 23/05/2016 11:39:34
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 895213
Subject: What is a core between planetoids?
Without yet addressing the matter of what remains as observable feature on the surface I will start with the particulars of the impact that are most relevant.
The density of the earth’s core is responsible for retaining our relative mass and some of that of the impact body. It also is responsible for deflecting the impact body and it is this that requires assessment. The impact on the core will have gouged some of it’s original mass away and dispersed it. This is critical as the density of that material means that it will not have filled in evenly and will have created a wobble as the earth re-coalesced.
As the surface congealed with the various products of impact material the gouge in the core will have remained a feature as heavier materials pushed lighter out of the way to seek it’s relative mass pressure at the core.
My first claim would be that challenger deep still sit’s above this gouge in the core as it continues to settle.
I’ll compile the impact wave analysis as it can still be observed from surface features at a later point.
Date: 23/05/2016 11:56:11
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 895225
Subject: re: What is a core between planetoids?
There is evidence that both impact cores retained most of their masses but transferred some content in examining the differences between the far and near sides of the moon and gravity map data of both bodies.
Date: 23/05/2016 12:07:03
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 895230
Subject: re: What is a core between planetoids?
The distance between CD and the west coast of the america’s measures the height the impact wave reached before breaking back onto the core.
The length and depth of the Marianis Trench measures the impact depth on the core of the Earth.
The Siberian Traps retain the features of the surface impact while the northern american continent retains the features of the core impact deflection.
The Australian continent is made up of the materials left behind by the exiting impact body.
Date: 23/05/2016 12:10:04
From: diddly-squat
ID: 895237
Subject: re: What is a core between planetoids?
Postpocelipse said:
The distance between CD and the west coast of the america’s measures the height the impact wave reached before breaking back onto the core.
The length and depth of the Marianis Trench measures the impact depth on the core of the Earth.
The Siberian Traps retain the features of the surface impact while the northern american continent retains the features of the core impact deflection.
The Australian continent is made up of the materials left behind by the exiting impact body.
my suggestion here is that you do a bit of research on the fundamentals of plate tectonics as well as the evidence that supports it.
Date: 23/05/2016 12:11:25
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 895240
Subject: re: What is a core between planetoids?
diddly-squat said:
Postpocelipse said:
The distance between CD and the west coast of the america’s measures the height the impact wave reached before breaking back onto the core.
The length and depth of the Marianis Trench measures the impact depth on the core of the Earth.
The Siberian Traps retain the features of the surface impact while the northern american continent retains the features of the core impact deflection.
The Australian continent is made up of the materials left behind by the exiting impact body.
my suggestion here is that you do a bit of research on the fundamentals of plate tectonics as well as the evidence that supports it.
stop suggesting things and do your own bloody work mate. I’ve been looking at these maps for years
Date: 23/05/2016 12:13:13
From: Divine Angel
ID: 895242
Subject: re: What is a core between planetoids?
How long have you been looking at maps, DS?
Date: 23/05/2016 12:13:31
From: dv
ID: 895243
Subject: re: What is a core between planetoids?
Postpocelipse said:
diddly-squat said:
Postpocelipse said:
The distance between CD and the west coast of the america’s measures the height the impact wave reached before breaking back onto the core.
The length and depth of the Marianis Trench measures the impact depth on the core of the Earth.
The Siberian Traps retain the features of the surface impact while the northern american continent retains the features of the core impact deflection.
The Australian continent is made up of the materials left behind by the exiting impact body.
my suggestion here is that you do a bit of research on the fundamentals of plate tectonics as well as the evidence that supports it.
stop suggesting things and do your own bloody work mate. I’ve been looking at these maps for years
That’s great, but please note that the maps represent a very small fraction of the total evidence.
Date: 23/05/2016 12:14:31
From: diddly-squat
ID: 895244
Subject: re: What is a core between planetoids?
Divine Angel said:
How long have you been looking at maps, DS?
a while, but hey I’m not a geo-scientist
Date: 23/05/2016 12:14:52
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 895245
Subject: re: What is a core between planetoids?
Divine Angel said:
How long have you been looking at maps, DS?
Does that indicate that he’s studied the gravity maps with the same purpose I have or assessed the movement of the continents as a result of the impact wave?
Date: 23/05/2016 12:15:54
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 895246
Subject: re: What is a core between planetoids?
dv said:
Postpocelipse said:
diddly-squat said:
my suggestion here is that you do a bit of research on the fundamentals of plate tectonics as well as the evidence that supports it.
stop suggesting things and do your own bloody work mate. I’ve been looking at these maps for years
That’s great, but please note that the maps represent a very small fraction of the total evidence.
Yes the gravity maps have been essential to defining the dent in our core which has been the crucial place to begin with this subject.
Date: 23/05/2016 12:20:12
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 895247
Subject: re: What is a core between planetoids?
You kinda gotta address the material to indicate it’s fallibility not demand my credentials. I got all the information off the web.
Date: 23/05/2016 12:40:56
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 895259
Subject: re: What is a core between planetoids?
Postpocelipse said:
The distance between CD and the west coast of the america’s measures the height the impact wave reached before breaking back onto the core.
The length and depth of the Marianis Trench measures the impact depth on the core of the Earth.
The Siberian Traps retain the features of the surface impact while the northern american continent retains the features of the core impact deflection.
The Australian continent is made up of the materials left behind by the exiting impact body.
Where the Australian continent has collected the greatest mixture of core materials as the moon body left it behind, Africa has collected the body of the immediate surface impact mixture.
Date: 23/05/2016 14:04:15
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 895287
Subject: re: What is a core between planetoids?
Postpocelipse said:
Postpocelipse said:
The distance between CD and the west coast of the america’s measures the height the impact wave reached before breaking back onto the core.
The length and depth of the Marianis Trench measures the impact depth on the core of the Earth.
The Siberian Traps retain the features of the surface impact while the northern american continent retains the features of the core impact deflection.
The Australian continent is made up of the materials left behind by the exiting impact body.
Where the Australian continent has collected the greatest mixture of core materials as the moon body left it behind, Africa has collected the body of the immediate surface impact mixture.
The distance between the Mediterranean and North American geological zones provides the depth trough to the peak trough the Marianis Trench measurement provides to the impact energy dispersal…….
Date: 23/05/2016 14:07:24
From: dv
ID: 895289
Subject: re: What is a core between planetoids?
Date: 23/05/2016 14:10:23
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 895292
Subject: re: What is a core between planetoids?
dv said:
It’s not cool to not know what you’re talking about
Add up the material dv. You aren’t impressing me with your inability to provide anything relevant. Now if you don’t mind stop contributing rubbish to a thread if it isn’t directly addressing the material supplied please……….
Date: 23/05/2016 14:12:49
From: dv
ID: 895295
Subject: re: What is a core between planetoids?
Postpocelipse said:
Add up the material dv. You aren’t impressing me with your inability to provide anything relevant.
Postpoc, I’ve provided you with a stack of relevant material to help you out. You’ve acted as though you didn’t understand it or weren’t interested.
Date: 23/05/2016 14:18:11
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 895298
Subject: re: What is a core between planetoids?
dv said:
Postpocelipse said:
Add up the material dv. You aren’t impressing me with your inability to provide anything relevant.
Postpoc, I’ve provided you with a stack of relevant material to help you out. You’ve acted as though you didn’t understand it or weren’t interested.
No you haven’t I’m afraid. The first claim on this thread is that our core retains a dent from the collision it survived. There is strong evidence in the nature of the Marianis tectonics and the gravity maps that display a distinct loss of mass directly beneath the CD point. There is also evidence of the degree of core material transfer in gravity maps of the moon and it’s dispersal of mass. How about you start from there?
Date: 23/05/2016 14:21:33
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 895301
Subject: re: What is a core between planetoids?
Postpocelipse said:
dv said:
Postpocelipse said:
Add up the material dv. You aren’t impressing me with your inability to provide anything relevant.
Postpoc, I’ve provided you with a stack of relevant material to help you out. You’ve acted as though you didn’t understand it or weren’t interested.
No you haven’t I’m afraid. The first claim on this thread is that our core retains a dent from the collision it survived. There is strong evidence in the nature of the Marianis tectonics and the gravity maps that display a distinct loss of mass directly beneath the CD point. There is also evidence of the degree of core material transfer in gravity maps of the moon and it’s dispersal of mass. How about you start from there?
Then you can move on to the mineral deposits of the African and Australian continents NOT being the product of collision and punch through mixture of planetary materials. Africa retaining the greatest in heavy materials of Theia’s mantle while Australia retains the greatest mixture of core impact materials.
Date: 23/05/2016 14:25:02
From: dv
ID: 895304
Subject: re: What is a core between planetoids?
Posty, everything you need to get started, I’ve posted in the other thread. You need to start by learning about the dynamics and nature of plate tectonics. Taking a good look at his will take you a few weeks but until you have that under your belt, you will not be able to see what is wrong with the fringe theories.
Date: 23/05/2016 14:25:27
From: Cymek
ID: 895305
Subject: re: What is a core between planetoids?
Postpocelipse said:
dv said:
Postpocelipse said:
Add up the material dv. You aren’t impressing me with your inability to provide anything relevant.
Postpoc, I’ve provided you with a stack of relevant material to help you out. You’ve acted as though you didn’t understand it or weren’t interested.
No you haven’t I’m afraid. The first claim on this thread is that our core retains a dent from the collision it survived. There is strong evidence in the nature of the Marianis tectonics and the gravity maps that display a distinct loss of mass directly beneath the CD point. There is also evidence of the degree of core material transfer in gravity maps of the moon and it’s dispersal of mass. How about you start from there?
The core is molten, how does something molten retain a dent wouldn’t any deformation be temporary and then it repairs itself so its a sphere again
Date: 23/05/2016 14:38:30
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 895309
Subject: re: What is a core between planetoids?
dv said:
Posty, everything you need to get started, I’ve posted in the other thread. You need to start by learning about the dynamics and nature of plate tectonics. Taking a good look at his will take you a few weeks but until you have that under your belt, you will not be able to see what is wrong with the fringe theories.
No you haven’t. Address the material supplied or go away. Really. I’m only recording where I’m up to on this subject and the only thing of minor relevance you have supplied is the list of pre-pangea tectonic compilations. I don’t need input to continue my investigations from here.
Date: 23/05/2016 14:40:57
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 895312
Subject: re: What is a core between planetoids?
Cymek said:
Postpocelipse said:
dv said:
Postpoc, I’ve provided you with a stack of relevant material to help you out. You’ve acted as though you didn’t understand it or weren’t interested.
No you haven’t I’m afraid. The first claim on this thread is that our core retains a dent from the collision it survived. There is strong evidence in the nature of the Marianis tectonics and the gravity maps that display a distinct loss of mass directly beneath the CD point. There is also evidence of the degree of core material transfer in gravity maps of the moon and it’s dispersal of mass. How about you start from there?
The core is molten, how does something molten retain a dent wouldn’t any deformation be temporary and then it repairs itself so its a sphere again
It is made mostly of iron. By the time the impact body reached it it had lost enough energy that it was deflected when they struck each other. Look at the gravity maps once the moons ones are finished. I guarantee there is substantial evidence it’s core was not destroyed either and was actually required to remain at least partially intact for the impact body energy to punch through and leave the earth behind.
Date: 23/05/2016 14:44:28
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 895314
Subject: re: What is a core between planetoids?
Investigation of core dent and African/Australian mineral deposit dispersals. That is all this thread requires to establish a fact or refute a claim.
Date: 23/05/2016 15:22:29
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 895341
Subject: re: What is a core between planetoids?
Postpocelipse said:
Without yet addressing the matter of what remains as observable feature on the surface I will start with the particulars of the impact that are most relevant.
The density of the earth’s core is responsible for retaining our relative mass and some of that of the impact body. It also is responsible for deflecting the impact body and it is this that requires assessment. The impact on the core will have gouged some of it’s original mass away and dispersed it. This is critical as the density of that material means that it will not have filled in evenly and will have created a wobble as the earth re-coalesced.
As the surface congealed with the various products of impact material the gouge in the core will have remained a feature as heavier materials pushed lighter out of the way to seek it’s relative mass pressure at the core.
My first claim would be that challenger deep still sit’s above this gouge in the core as it continues to settle.
I’ll compile the impact wave analysis as it can still be observed from surface features at a later point.
This applies only to the Moon. Not to the Earth. The Moon’s core is off centre bacause of impacts. The influence of I pacts on the geography of the modern Earth is zero.
Date: 23/05/2016 15:29:01
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 895345
Subject: re: What is a core between planetoids?
The Moon’s core is off centre bacause of impacts.
i have read that it is off centre because of the earth’s gravitational influence whilst the moon was still molten.
Date: 23/05/2016 15:30:12
From: Cymek
ID: 895346
Subject: re: What is a core between planetoids?
ChrispenEvan said:
The Moon’s core is off centre bacause of impacts.
i have read that it is off centre because of the earth’s gravitational influence whilst the moon was still molten.
Pulling it slightly towards the side facing the Earth ?
Date: 23/05/2016 15:31:23
From: diddly-squat
ID: 895347
Subject: re: What is a core between planetoids?
dv said:
It’s not cool to not know what you’re talking about
I wish he was the President of Australia…
Date: 23/05/2016 15:33:18
From: diddly-squat
ID: 895348
Subject: re: What is a core between planetoids?
Postpocelipse said:
Postpocelipse said:
dv said:
Postpoc, I’ve provided you with a stack of relevant material to help you out. You’ve acted as though you didn’t understand it or weren’t interested.
No you haven’t I’m afraid. The first claim on this thread is that our core retains a dent from the collision it survived. There is strong evidence in the nature of the Marianis tectonics and the gravity maps that display a distinct loss of mass directly beneath the CD point. There is also evidence of the degree of core material transfer in gravity maps of the moon and it’s dispersal of mass. How about you start from there?
Then you can move on to the mineral deposits of the African and Australian continents NOT being the product of collision and punch through mixture of planetary materials. Africa retaining the greatest in heavy materials of Theia’s mantle while Australia retains the greatest mixture of core impact materials.
ore genesis is a particularly well studied and quite well understood mechanism
Date: 23/05/2016 15:35:39
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 895350
Subject: re: What is a core between planetoids?
yes cymek, the moon is also slightly egg-shaped, pointy end towards us, for the same reason.
Date: 23/05/2016 15:37:51
From: Cymek
ID: 895353
Subject: re: What is a core between planetoids?
diddly-squat said:
Postpocelipse said:
Postpocelipse said:
No you haven’t I’m afraid. The first claim on this thread is that our core retains a dent from the collision it survived. There is strong evidence in the nature of the Marianis tectonics and the gravity maps that display a distinct loss of mass directly beneath the CD point. There is also evidence of the degree of core material transfer in gravity maps of the moon and it’s dispersal of mass. How about you start from there?
Then you can move on to the mineral deposits of the African and Australian continents NOT being the product of collision and punch through mixture of planetary materials. Africa retaining the greatest in heavy materials of Theia’s mantle while Australia retains the greatest mixture of core impact materials.
ore genesis is a particularly well studied and quite well understood mechanism
6000 years genesis isn’t it
Date: 23/05/2016 15:53:49
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 895361
Subject: re: What is a core between planetoids?
Cymek said:
ChrispenEvan said:
The Moon’s core is off centre bacause of impacts.
i have read that it is off centre because of the earth’s gravitational influence whilst the moon was still molten.
Pulling it slightly towards the side facing the Earth ?
The core of either planetoid will have lost minimal rotation with the debriding of their mantles. The significant AM of each core will have contributed significantly to deflection. The side of the moon facing us is the collision side of it’s core, which lost momentum after deflection and having to punch it’s way back out of the molten mantle materials to deposit itself where it is.
Date: 23/05/2016 15:55:35
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 895362
Subject: re: What is a core between planetoids?
you just listen to me cymek, i wont bullshit you.
:-)
Date: 23/05/2016 15:58:36
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 895363
Subject: re: What is a core between planetoids?
mollwollfumble said:
Postpocelipse said:
This applies only to the Moon. Not to the Earth. The Moon’s core is off centre bacause of impacts. The influence of I pacts on the geography of the modern Earth is zero.
There is a long bow to draw! Did you miss the bit about how this is in regard to the moon-making collision?
Date: 23/05/2016 15:59:07
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 895365
Subject: re: What is a core between planetoids?
ChrispenEvan said:
you just listen to me cymek, i wont bullshit you.
:-)
As long as you post your shit on my threads I’ll start another
Date: 23/05/2016 17:16:35
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 895426
Subject: re: What is a core between planetoids?
Postpocelipse said:
mollwollfumble said:
Postpocelipse said:
This applies only to the Moon. Not to the Earth. The Moon’s core is off centre bacause of impacts. The influence of I pacts on the geography of the modern Earth is zero.
There is a long bow to draw! Did you miss the bit about how this is in regard to the moon-making collision?
I know that. What I said still holds. There’s a difference between a liquid and a solid.
Date: 23/05/2016 17:30:29
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 895434
Subject: re: What is a core between planetoids?
mollwollfumble said:
Postpocelipse said:
mollwollfumble said:
This applies only to the Moon. Not to the Earth. The Moon’s core is off centre bacause of impacts. The influence of I pacts on the geography of the modern Earth is zero.
There is a long bow to draw! Did you miss the bit about how this is in regard to the moon-making collision?
I know that. What I said still holds.
No it doesn’t in this case. Sorry.
There’s a difference between a liquid and a solid.
Yes there is. And seeing as the either mantle was made of solids rather than liquids the degree to which any particular portion liquefied is highly debatable.
Date: 23/05/2016 17:33:26
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 895437
Subject: re: What is a core between planetoids?
Postpocelipse said:
mollwollfumble said:
Postpocelipse said:
There is a long bow to draw! Did you miss the bit about how this is in regard to the moon-making collision?
I know that. What I said still holds.
No it doesn’t in this case. Sorry.
The geography of the post theia collision surface is entirely determined by the collision’s dispersal of material.
Date: 23/05/2016 18:52:58
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 895484
Subject: re: What is a core between planetoids?
To be absolutely 100% fair to a fairly supplied reference, yes, with a little further consideration the moon’s core will have left the impact with a slight egg shape after it gouged into the Earth’s core deep enough to build up a cam-like lobe that caught and contributed to it’s deflection to it’s current position.