Date: 25/05/2016 13:03:45
From: transition
ID: 896419
Subject: the torture of the incomparable

Much of moment-to-moment wakeful experience are variously the outcome of comparisons.

But how do you feel about that incomparable, including the willful constraining of active comparison in the social field.

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Date: 25/05/2016 13:14:14
From: dv
ID: 896429
Subject: re: the torture of the incomparable

transition said:


Much of moment-to-moment wakeful experience are variously the outcome of comparisons.

But how do you feel about that incomparable, including the willful constraining of active comparison in the social field.

I’m okay with it.

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Date: 25/05/2016 16:25:42
From: bob(from black rock)
ID: 896626
Subject: re: the torture of the incomparable

transition said:


Much of moment-to-moment wakeful experience are variously the outcome of comparisons.

But how do you feel about that incomparable, including the willful constraining of active comparison in the social field.

Ploise exploin?

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Date: 25/05/2016 17:19:46
From: Jing Joh
ID: 896657
Subject: re: the torture of the incomparable

I’ve only done it once.

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Date: 25/05/2016 18:06:43
From: transition
ID: 896668
Subject: re: the torture of the incomparable

alright, something extreme

minds have structure from, well, before birth really, courtesy our ancestors and way back through evolution. Then there’s the experience of the lifetime of an organism, like you went to school, played, read some, did stuff (learned).

all those neurons arranged, they do work. We build concepts of the world and its workings. Useful mostly.

much of moment to moment experience involves comparison, comparing things

given that comparing is essential to human mental activity, how generous might you be in attributing extent and significance of realities outside that comparing.

most of the universe does as it does without human comparison, like it’s (the universe) mostly what minds don’t do.

call it God.

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Date: 26/05/2016 14:00:19
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 897090
Subject: re: the torture of the incomparable

> much of moment to moment experience involves comparison, comparing things

Yes. That’s how the human brain works. When it works properly.

> given that comparing is essential to human mental activity, how generous might you be in attributing extent and significance of realities outside that comparing.

If realities outside of comparing exist then that does not stop humans from comparing them to more conventional realities. So such realities cease to exist in the moment of their first observation.

Now let’s suppose that a reality exists that is intrinsically incapable of comparison. Then such a reality can either be indirectly inferred from realities that are capable of comparison – in which case it can be compared after all. Or the reality has no intersection with realities that can be compared – in which case it has no influence on anything observable – and is thus of no importance and therefore can be immediately rejected by Occam’s Razor.

> most of the universe does as it does without human comparison.

True.

> call it God.

Sorry, the username “God” has already been allocated. Choose another username.

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Date: 26/05/2016 14:43:37
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 897122
Subject: re: the torture of the incomparable

mollwollfumble said:


> call it God.

Sorry, the username “God” has already been allocated. Choose another username.

Good point :)

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Date: 26/05/2016 14:45:37
From: dv
ID: 897125
Subject: re: the torture of the incomparable

and well made

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Date: 26/05/2016 21:31:17
From: transition
ID: 897343
Subject: re: the torture of the incomparable

is there absolutely anything at all philosophically useful about the God concept

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Date: 26/05/2016 21:34:07
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 897344
Subject: re: the torture of the incomparable

transition said:


is there absolutely anything at all philosophically useful about the God concept

Remaining aware that whatever you might want to pretend the truth is always recorded somewhere, somehow?

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Date: 26/05/2016 21:35:27
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 897345
Subject: re: the torture of the incomparable

Postpocelipse said:


transition said:

is there absolutely anything at all philosophically useful about the God concept

Remaining aware that whatever you might want to pretend the truth is always recorded somewhere, somehow?

I’ve had definitive proof today young people at the very least do not consider this significant.

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Date: 26/05/2016 21:38:38
From: transition
ID: 897348
Subject: re: the torture of the incomparable

>Remaining aware that whatever you might want to pretend the truth is always recorded somewhere, somehow?

parable isn’t it, metaphor etc

stories.

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Date: 26/05/2016 21:41:18
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 897350
Subject: re: the torture of the incomparable

transition said:


>Remaining aware that whatever you might want to pretend the truth is always recorded somewhere, somehow?

parable isn’t it, metaphor etc

stories.

Not so much. I had to depend on the truth being obvious in trial. The kid who thought he could get out of the money he borrowed yesterday by threatening to send a friend round doesn’t seem to realise every piece of evidence I need to send his friend back to his place to give him a flogging is in text form from him on my phone as well as proof for the police should anything serious come of it.

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Date: 26/05/2016 21:45:07
From: transition
ID: 897354
Subject: re: the torture of the incomparable

>….should anything serious come of it.

you’re upgrading your vicissitudes

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Date: 26/05/2016 21:47:00
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 897356
Subject: re: the torture of the incomparable

transition said:


>….should anything serious come of it.

you’re upgrading your vicissitudes

We’ll see. If it’s anything like a promotion I’ll have to consider the responsibilities incumbent.

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Date: 27/05/2016 17:48:53
From: bob(from black rock)
ID: 897621
Subject: re: the torture of the incomparable

transition said:


is there absolutely anything at all philosophically useful about the God concept

Yes God is “Dog” spelt correctly.

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Date: 27/05/2016 18:06:15
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 897631
Subject: re: the torture of the incomparable

bob(from black rock) said:


transition said:

is there absolutely anything at all philosophically useful about the God concept

Yes God is “Dog” spelt correctly.

With the Big bang and the Universe having around 99.9 percent of observed reality, God has less than 0.1 percent probability
It has a place next to all the other possibilities, like multiple universes.

its helpful for comparisons

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