“Take the Melon test“http://www.playbuzz.com/bennqrandt10/how-many-watermelons-you-can-see-in-this-photo-can-determine-whether-youre-left-or-right-brained?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=new_lp&utm_term=lp&utm_campaign=how-many-watermelons-you-can-see-in-this-photo-can-determine-whether-youre-left-or-right-brained&ljr=o8F40GJ6hrbnzGASUGhH7QMam0fUS8rf62SuNq3iHEA%3D

This ‘which side of the brain’ test came up on FB and I found the result illuminating. I noticed there were predictable response in comments from people who did the test that highlight a question I have been examining that I have recently referred to as ‘counting backwards’. This for me describes the reason early civilizations that relied heavily on agriculture were not a match for the herding tribes when they saw fit to band together.

Thought people here might be interested in delving into a discussion on right/left brain orientation with reference to this handy little test.

Take the Melon test

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as I understand it it’s agriculture that created modern civilisation not herders , herders have to keep moving , everything has to be packed up and moved every few weeks – those civilisations don’t progress because they can build , store or manufacturer very much because it all needs to to be moved.

herders can’t make beer in very large quantities.

wookiemeister said:

as I understand it it’s agriculture that created modern civilisation not herders , herders have to keep moving , everything has to be packed up and moved every few weeks – those civilisations don’t progress because they can build , store or manufacturer very much because it all needs to to be moved.

herders can’t make beer in very large quantities.

If you are drinking then you’ll want some entertainment. In those days herders weren’t just goat herders. They were caravan owners and the accompanying entertainment. The Indians even migrated into Europe using the Red Sea-Mediterranean short cut at one time and these seaway users were often among the number considerable as herding. Migratory might be the better term.

herding animals doesn’t get you anywhere, if animal herding was so great then bill gates would have ploughed his life and fortune into herding. the 7 wonders weren’t built by goat herders but skilled people that didn’t move around every few weeks.

the North American Indians followed the buffalo – full stop. apart from making animal skin clothing and weapons and fighting each other they hadn’t developed very much when the European invasion of America found them.

wookiemeister said:

herding animals doesn’t get you anywhere, if animal herding was so great then bill gates would have ploughed his life and fortune into herding. the 7 wonders weren’t built by goat herders but skilled people that didn’t move around every few weeks.

the North American Indians followed the buffalo – full stop. apart from making animal skin clothing and weapons and fighting each other they hadn’t developed very much when the European invasion of America found them.

it isn’t the herding drongo it’s the word of mouth tradition. It develops keener senses for one thing.

Postpocelipse said:

wookiemeister said:

herding animals doesn’t get you anywhere, if animal herding was so great then bill gates would have ploughed his life and fortune into herding. the 7 wonders weren’t built by goat herders but skilled people that didn’t move around every few weeks.

the North American Indians followed the buffalo – full stop. apart from making animal skin clothing and weapons and fighting each other they hadn’t developed very much when the European invasion of America found them.

it isn’t the herding drongo it’s the word of mouth tradition. It develops keener senses for one thing.

sure but nomads/ hunters didn’t take over the world

wookiemeister said:

Postpocelipse said:

wookiemeister said:

herding animals doesn’t get you anywhere, if animal herding was so great then bill gates would have ploughed his life and fortune into herding. the 7 wonders weren’t built by goat herders but skilled people that didn’t move around every few weeks.

the North American Indians followed the buffalo – full stop. apart from making animal skin clothing and weapons and fighting each other they hadn’t developed very much when the European invasion of America found them.

it isn’t the herding drongo it’s the word of mouth tradition. It develops keener senses for one thing.

sure but nomads/ hunters didn’t take over the world

They did at least twice creating the biggest empires of their times.

Postpocelipse said:

wookiemeister said:

Postpocelipse said:

it isn’t the herding drongo it’s the word of mouth tradition. It develops keener senses for one thing.

sure but nomads/ hunters didn’t take over the world

They did at least twice creating the biggest empires of their times.

think of this way

we can assume that the herders and hunters had been going since the dawn of man when men in monkey suits leapt around the monolith shaking sticks in the air.

the fact is that it was an evolutionary step needed to then apply those brains to doing something easier to survive like agriculture and building permanent structures to create the societies needed to build upon to progress – the written language was most likely created by societies based on agriculture. the aboriginals here never had any written word because they were nomads that merely survived.

wookiemeister said:

Postpocelipse said:

wookiemeister said:

sure but nomads/ hunters didn’t take over the world

They did at least twice creating the biggest empires of their times.

think of this way

we can assume that the herders and hunters had been going since the dawn of man when men in monkey suits leapt around the monolith shaking sticks in the air.

the fact is that it was an evolutionary step needed to then apply those brains to doing something easier to survive like agriculture and building permanent structures to create the societies needed to build upon to progress – the written language was most likely created by societies based on agriculture. the aboriginals here never had any written word because they were nomads that merely survived.

errm,,,, no, not even if you say so……

I hate this over-simplistic either-orist stuff.

Where are people who answered “it depends what you mean by “how many” supposed to click?

The migration depicted here would be considerable as the first exodus.

The early hebrew obviously had a good knowledge of the surrounding world.

Before the Amorites fell.

The Kassites rise.

!

Ghandas’s diplomacy encourages further migration and allows the establishment of The Sea Peoples nation which governed the Seaways with Babylon at least till the destruction of Minoa in 1600.

Regardless of that factor the diplomacy shown by the Kassites encouraged migration to the Mediterranean from Northern Europe until 1300

The control of this sea-route created significant power and confrontation.

The Rev Dodgson said:

I hate this over-simplistic either-orist stuff.

Where are people who answered “it depends what you mean by “how many” supposed to click?

Which side of the brain you use is important information for know your limitations. I ended up being right brained and so you’ll have to forgive my creative efforts as being inherent to my self expression.

Postpocelipse said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

I hate this over-simplistic either-orist stuff.

Where are people who answered “it depends what you mean by “how many” supposed to click?

Which side of the brain you use is important information for know your limitations. I ended up being right brained and so you’ll have to forgive my creative efforts as being inherent to my self expression.

Everybody uses both sides, and all aspects of brain activity lie on a continuum.

To divide everybody into one of two groups is just daft.

The Rev Dodgson said:

To divide everybody into one of two groups is just daft.

Exactly what I suspect a left brainer would state.

The Rev Dodgson said:

Postpocelipse said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

I hate this over-simplistic either-orist stuff.

Where are people who answered “it depends what you mean by “how many” supposed to click?

Which side of the brain you use is important information for know your limitations. I ended up being right brained and so you’ll have to forgive my creative efforts as being inherent to my self expression.

Everybody uses both sides, and all aspects of brain activity lie on a continuum.

To divide everybody into one of two groups is just daft.

If you scroll through the comments left by people who have taken the test their responses indicate distinct sub-divisions in types of thinker.

sibeen said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

To divide everybody into one of two groups is just daft.

Exactly what I suspect a left brainer would state.

:P

It’s like asking which side of your liver you use.

Postpocelipse said:

sibeen said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

To divide everybody into one of two groups is just daft.

Exactly what I suspect a left brainer would state.

:P

and it’s one of three groups as it turns out Rev.

Bubblecar said:

It’s like asking which side of your liver you use.

have you take the test?

Postpocelipse said:

Postpocelipse said:

sibeen said:

Exactly what I suspect a left brainer would state.

:P

and it’s one of three groups as it turns out Rev.

50% better than just plain daft still isn’t very good.

Postpocelipse said:

Bubblecar said:

It’s like asking which side of your liver you use.

have you take the test?

Like the Rev I’d probably find it too daft.

Might do it later.

at a guess I’d say the front lobe of the left brain developed with foraging, the back with agriculture and the right brain seems to have been required for managing the details.

Postpocelipse said:

Postpocelipse said:

sibeen said:

Exactly what I suspect a left brainer would state.

:P

and it’s one of three groups as it turns out Rev.

“The left side of the brain is responsible for controlling the right side of the body. It also performs tasks that have to do with logic, such as in science and mathematics. On the other hand, the right hemisphere coordinates the left side of the body, and performs tasks that have do with creativity and the arts.”

For normal function throughout the day, you use both sides of the brain.

PermeateFree said:

Postpocelipse said:

Postpocelipse said:

:P

and it’s one of three groups as it turns out Rev.

“The left side of the brain is responsible for controlling the right side of the body. It also performs tasks that have to do with logic, such as in science and mathematics. On the other hand, the right hemisphere coordinates the left side of the body, and performs tasks that have do with creativity and the arts.”

For normal function throughout the day, you use both sides of the brain.

It is the longer tasks that make the difference in evolution. Controlling nations was an art form for those with sufficient right brain coordination.

Which side of your brain you use when you think,
Which side of your liver you use when you drink,
Which side of your belly, which side of your heart,
Which side of your bum you use when you fart…

Which side of which,
What side of when,
Are you of one of those
Or of these kind of men?

I remember when pink floyd released their “dark side of the melon” LP

we don’t need no mastication
we don’t need no pip control

hey eater !
leave those pips alone

Bubblecar said:

Which side of your brain you use when you think,
Which side of your liver you use when you drink,
Which side of your belly, which side of your heart,
Which side of your bum you use when you fart…

Which side of which,
What side of when,
Are you of one of those
Or of these kind of men?

no. you seemed to have missed the point of raising the topic which focuses on political philosophies and their origins.

wookiemeister said:

I remember when pink floyd released their “dark side of the melon” LP

we don’t need no mastication
we don’t need no pip control

hey eater !
leave those pips alone

The Great Vine in The Sky

On The Rum

Martini

Time

Any Colour (Vodka) You Like

Brain Damage

Speak To Me/Breathe

Postpocelipse said:

wookiemeister said:

I remember when pink floyd released their “dark side of the melon” LP

we don’t need no mastication
we don’t need no pip control

hey eater !
leave those pips alone

The Great Vine in The Sky

On The Rum

Martini

Time

Any Colour (Vodka) You Like

Brain Damage

Speak To Me/Breathe

No excuse for coke mixing if you have some watermelons and a good freezer

you can create a string cradle holding a melon and then set it swinging from a branch

set yourself back and using a unique rifle take practice shots with some special ammo

I’m off to file my claws , some geezer broke into my enclosure and got mauled , now they are telling me it’s my fault

> as I understand it it’s agriculture that created modern civilisation not herders

That’s what I’ve always believed, but thinking further, what really created civilization was taxes. Writing was invented to explain and keep track of laws in general and taxes in particular.

mollwollfumble said:

> as I understand it it’s agriculture that created modern civilisation not herders

That’s what I’ve always believed, but thinking further, what really created civilization was taxes. Writing was invented to explain and keep track of laws in general and taxes in particular.

100%

Postpocelipse said:

mollwollfumble said:

> as I understand it it’s agriculture that created modern civilisation not herders

That’s what I’ve always believed, but thinking further, what really created civilization was taxes. Writing was invented to explain and keep track of laws in general and taxes in particular.

100%

Basic(western) development went: Early Egypt=Don’t fark with the boss/Amorite Babylon: Here’s some beer for not farkin with the boss

Kassite Babylon/Sea Peoples=Large scale regulation of seaways and trade sophistication Canaanite Egypt=Nationally internal diplomacy between indigenous population and foreign rulers. Pheonicians/Minoa/Early Greek=Origins of the sciences(natural law) set out

Postpocelipse said:

Postpocelipse said:

mollwollfumble said:

> as I understand it it’s agriculture that created modern civilisation not herders

That’s what I’ve always believed, but thinking further, what really created civilization was taxes. Writing was invented to explain and keep track of laws in general and taxes in particular.

100%

Basic(western) development went: Early Egypt=Don’t fark with the boss/Amorite Babylon: Here’s some beer for not farkin with the boss

Kassite Babylon/Sea Peoples=Large scale regulation of seaways and trade sophistication Canaanite Egypt=Nationally internal diplomacy between indigenous population and foreign rulers. Pheonicians/Minoa/Early Greek=Origins of the sciences(natural law) set out

The purpose of this investigation is to identify subjective habits of philosophy that have adversely effected the development of objective/pragmatic purpose to the legal and political systems.

Capitalism as a pure device is pragmatically democratic and purposefully objective. Taoism is a capitalist philosophy. Brahmanism represented an objectively purposeful philosophy. The early Egyptian and Amorite philosophies encapsulated despotism and sycophantic deferral to this. This was overcome by greater reason but left it’s mark in the political fabrications of The First Testament.

It is this passive aggressive victim mantle that insinuates itself into the public debate creating disharmony and limiting greater progress. I’ve always preferred starting from the beginning of a problem and working out where things went wrong to begin with to throw fair perspective on contemporary global issues. It seems the only method of provoking defensive reactions from any particular sub-group that is being addressed.

Postpocelipse said:

It seems the only method of preventing the provoking of defensive reactions from any particular sub-group that is being addressed.

…fixellated

mollwollfumble said:

> as I understand it it’s agriculture that created modern civilisation not herders

That’s what I’ve always believed, but thinking further, what really created civilization was taxes. Writing was invented to explain and keep track of laws in general and taxes in particular.

In a herding situation the boss of the tribe and his friends / family can’t take very much from the other herders , they just don’t have anything as such apart from maybe a daughter they can bully out of a family.

with a stationary existence taxes are more of a sophisticated approach to get more out of the community because now they have more to take.

In Russia Putin allowed a heap of money to flow to his friends to help build Sochi.

writing in that perspective came about to preserve the status quo of those in charge , namely taxes , religion and laws

wookiemeister said:

mollwollfumble said:

> as I understand it it’s agriculture that created modern civilisation not herders

That’s what I’ve always believed, but thinking further, what really created civilization was taxes. Writing was invented to explain and keep track of laws in general and taxes in particular.

In a herding situation the boss of the tribe and his friends / family can’t take very much from the other herders , they just don’t have anything as such apart from maybe a daughter they can bully out of a family.

with a stationary existence taxes are more of a sophisticated approach to get more out of the community because now they have more to take.

In Russia Putin allowed a heap of money to flow to his friends to help build Sochi.

writing in that perspective came about to preserve the status quo of those in charge , namely taxes , religion and laws

Of course and also to preserve the integrity of any greater wisdom found as solution to fiasco. I’ve been look at the Taklimakan desert and the cause of it’s existence. It is not a conventional desert and I believe with the appropriate installations between it and the Himalayan mountains the monsoonal air-flow that is it’s cause can be partially diverted into the Taklimakan Desert rather than simply being largely lifted over Tibet and into China as it is presently.

Which Lost Boy Are You?

The last question posted on this thread is actually much more than tic. The political philosophy exhibited by the early Egyptians is very much the insular elitist mafioso type maintenance of status -quo. The progressive diplomacy exhibited by Ghandas and the Kassite Babylonians provides the first glimpses of significant community democracy and sophisticated regulation of economy logistics.