Date: 7/06/2016 07:37:27
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 903840
Subject: Microbe-linked solar panels are better than plants at converting sunlight to energy

Plants are exceptional sunlight sponges. But they store only about 1% of the energy they soak up, locking it into the sugars and other organic molecules they use to build their cells. Scientists have boosted that number by a few percentage points with light-absorbing microbes and genetic engineering. But now, researchers have taken a more sizable jump with solar panels, creating a hybrid device that uses a combination of catalysts and microbes to convert 10% of the captured solar energy into liquid fuels and other commodity chemicals.

I’m a big fan of the work,” says Chris Chang, a chemical biologist and solar fuels expert at the University of California, Berkeley, who was not involved in the study. “It provides a really nice demonstration that you can get high efficiency , which is a key step.”

The new fuels could also solve another crucial problem: renewable energy storage. As solar and wind power grow in use, researchers have begun looking for ways to store the excess energy such systems produce. Batteries are too expensive for storing more than nominal amounts. But energy-rich chemicals, which can be piped around and kept in chemical tanks, could store much more at a manageable price.

The new work got its start in 2011, when researchers led by Dan Nocera, a chemist at Harvard University, created an artificial leaf that used energy from sunlight to split water into oxygen and hydrogen gas (H2). H2 can then be run through a device called a fuel cell to produce electricity. But because its energy density is so low—thanks to its vapor state—any fuel produced requires massive storage tanks or high pressures to compress it into smaller, more manageable volumes.

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Date: 7/06/2016 11:01:08
From: Cymek
ID: 903889
Subject: re: Microbe-linked solar panels are better than plants at converting sunlight to energy

Plants are exceptional sunlight sponges. But they store only about 1% of the energy they soak up, locking it into the sugars and other organic molecules they use to build their cells

I wonder if you genetically modified plants to store more of this energy you would cause them to grow faster. If so it would be useful for reforrestation

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Date: 9/06/2016 07:14:05
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 904915
Subject: re: Microbe-linked solar panels are better than plants at converting sunlight to energy

> Plants are exceptional sunlight sponges. But they store only about 1% of the energy they soak up, locking it into the sugars and other organic molecules they use to build their cells. Scientists have boosted that number by a few percentage points with light-absorbing microbes and genetic engineering. But now, researchers have taken a more sizable jump with solar panels, creating a hybrid device that uses a combination of catalysts and microbes to convert 10% of the captured solar energy into liquid fuels and other commodity chemicals.

If plants were exceptional light sponges then their leaves would be black, not green. Chlorophyll A only absorbs light at two specific frequencies at the blue and red ends of the spectrum and, whereas other chemicals present in plants also absorb light, they still leave much of the spectrum reflected. That’s good for plants, because otherwise the extra absorbed light would lead to overheating problems.

> Researchers led by Dan Nocera, a chemist at Harvard University, created an artificial leaf that used energy from sunlight to split water into oxygen and hydrogen gas (H2). Nocera’s group reported that it developed a hybrid system that used bacteria and electricity to “stitch” together H2—generated from splitting water—and the carbon from CO2 into a liquid alcohol called isopropanol.

I’d prefer to react the hydrogen gas with carbon to get petrol, or to use the hydrogen directly, rather than producing isopropanol. But that’s just a personal opinion. I like what they’re doing very much.

Cymek said:


I wonder if you genetically modified plants to store more of this energy you would cause them to grow faster. If so it would be useful for reforestation

There is the problem of getting plants together with the cobalt-phosphorous alloy needed as a catalyst. Why not just genetically modify plants to produce more chlorophyll (and chloroplasts)?

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Date: 9/06/2016 09:08:35
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 904936
Subject: re: Microbe-linked solar panels are better than plants at converting sunlight to energy

mollwollfumble said:

If plants were exceptional light sponges then their leaves would be black, not green. Chlorophyll A only absorbs light at two specific frequencies at the blue and red ends of the spectrum and, whereas other chemicals present in plants also absorb light, they still leave much of the spectrum reflected. That’s good for plants, because otherwise the extra absorbed light would lead to overheating problems.

Yes, that’s a nonsensical comment that is often repeated for some reason. It’s also often said that plants have an extremely high conversion efficiency, apparently on the basis that of the about 1% light energy that is converted to chemical energy, all of it is converted to chemical energy.

mollwollfuI’d prefer to react the hydrogen gas with carbon to get petrol, or to use the hydrogen directly, rather than producing isopropanol. But that’s just a personal opinion. I like what they’re doing very much.

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What’s the problem with isopropanol?

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Date: 9/06/2016 09:09:34
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 904938
Subject: re: Microbe-linked solar panels are better than plants at converting sunlight to energy

Didn’t mean to belittle your quote :)

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