Date: 7/06/2016 13:45:52
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 904011
Subject: Shockwaves

Shock waves

small shock waves visible in sand

larger explosion shock wave

Schlieren Imaging of Supersonic Shockwaves

3D shockwave

Sun Shock Waves: New Theory Could Predict When Planets Form

Sonic Shock

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Date: 8/06/2016 12:08:33
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 904531
Subject: re: Shockwaves

Shock waves
small shock waves visible in sand
Fascinating. Not shock waves, but a brilliant introduction to the dilatory (ie. anti-thixotropic) properties of wet sand.

larger explosion shock wave
That’s a real shock wave, and a real mushroom cloud. Six seconds after the explosion, watch the ground.

Schlieren Imaging of Supersonic Shockwaves
This is on a real F/A-18 and F-15 aircraft. I didn’t believe it was possible. I saw many Schlieren images of supersonic shock waves back in the 1980s, the images had been made in the 1950s, but they were all in wind tunnels.

3D shockwave
I wish I had the source code for that, it would have been fantastic for my former computational fluid dynamics work. Good for supernova simulation.

Sun Shock Waves: New Theory Could Predict When Planets Form
I’d heard about this, chondrules in meteorites show signs of extremely rapid “shock” heating, these proposed shock waves are the simplest explanation for how this extremely rapid heading occurred.

Sonic Shock
I have a copy of a technical article about this sort of stuff somewhere. Possibly in hardcopy. Would be difficult to find now.

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Date: 8/06/2016 12:43:52
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 904535
Subject: re: Shockwaves

Is the rigidity of the leading edge of a supersonic shock-wave defined by SR rather than GR?

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Date: 8/06/2016 12:52:53
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 904538
Subject: re: Shockwaves

mollwollfumble said:

Sun Shock Waves: New Theory Could Predict When Planets Form
I’d heard about this, chondrules in meteorites show signs of extremely rapid “shock” heating, these proposed shock waves are the simplest explanation for how this extremely rapid heading occurred.

If this is so shouldn’t it also be likely that the development of internal shock-waves during BB expansion have led to the spawning of SMBH’s and proto-galaxies?

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Date: 8/06/2016 13:02:04
From: Cymek
ID: 904539
Subject: re: Shockwaves

Postpocelipse said:


mollwollfumble said:

Sun Shock Waves: New Theory Could Predict When Planets Form
I’d heard about this, chondrules in meteorites show signs of extremely rapid “shock” heating, these proposed shock waves are the simplest explanation for how this extremely rapid heading occurred.

If this is so shouldn’t it also be likely that the development of internal shock-waves during BB expansion have led to the spawning of SMBH’s and proto-galaxies?

Wasn’t it irregularities in the shockwave that created clumping of matter that later formed proto-galaxies and first generation stars,

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Date: 8/06/2016 13:09:15
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 904540
Subject: re: Shockwaves

Cymek said:


Postpocelipse said:

mollwollfumble said:

Sun Shock Waves: New Theory Could Predict When Planets Form
I’d heard about this, chondrules in meteorites show signs of extremely rapid “shock” heating, these proposed shock waves are the simplest explanation for how this extremely rapid heading occurred.

If this is so shouldn’t it also be likely that the development of internal shock-waves during BB expansion have led to the spawning of SMBH’s and proto-galaxies?

Wasn’t it irregularities in the shockwave that created clumping of matter that later formed proto-galaxies and first generation stars,

That seems kinda post expansion to me. There must be a mechanism that triggers BB and another that slows it to the observable. At various points during expansion thresholds are exceeded that provide mass with permanent stability. I expect that these thresholds create shock-waves of their own within the greater BB expansion shock-wave that apply’s braking resistance on it’s expansion.

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Date: 8/06/2016 13:15:36
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 904541
Subject: re: Shockwaves

Postpocelipse said:


Cymek said:

Postpocelipse said:

If this is so shouldn’t it also be likely that the development of internal shock-waves during BB expansion have led to the spawning of SMBH’s and proto-galaxies?

Wasn’t it irregularities in the shockwave that created clumping of matter that later formed proto-galaxies and first generation stars,

That seems kinda post expansion to me. There must be a mechanism that triggers BB and another that slows it to the observable. At various points during expansion thresholds are exceeded that provide mass with permanent stability. I expect that these thresholds create shock-waves of their own within the greater BB expansion shock-wave that apply’s braking resistance on it’s expansion.

The size of SMBH’s makes greater sense as the result of primordial shock-waves AFAICT.

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Date: 8/06/2016 13:18:36
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 904542
Subject: re: Shockwaves

Postpocelipse said:


Postpocelipse said:

Cymek said:

Wasn’t it irregularities in the shockwave that created clumping of matter that later formed proto-galaxies and first generation stars,

That seems kinda post expansion to me. There must be a mechanism that triggers BB and another that slows it to the observable. At various points during expansion thresholds are exceeded that provide mass with permanent stability. I expect that these thresholds create shock-waves of their own within the greater BB expansion shock-wave that apply’s braking resistance on it’s expansion.

The size of SMBH’s makes greater sense as the result of primordial shock-waves AFAICT.

I guess one way of looking at it might be that the BB shock-wave is the enforcement of SR and a subsequent GR shock-wave is required to balance that out. Haven’t worked out the detail there to any extent but it allows a degree of freedom for assessing DE/DM data.

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Date: 8/06/2016 13:23:37
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 904545
Subject: re: Shockwaves

Particle mass itself only appears to be a suspension between shock-waves from most perspectives.

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Date: 8/06/2016 13:41:50
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 904549
Subject: re: Shockwaves

Postpocelipse said:


Particle mass itself only appears to be a suspension between shock-waves from most perspectives.

Which is where the leading edge of a supersonic shock-wave comes in. If mass is a suspension between SR/GR shock-waves then there has to be degrees of EH for every force threshold which should make the components of a shock-wave defined by the elementary forces. That is the way my brain holds all the recorded information together so I guess I should take that information and get more detail on shock-wave theory.

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Date: 8/06/2016 13:52:04
From: roughbarked
ID: 904557
Subject: re: Shockwaves

Like a diesel engine, doesn’t compression initiate ignition or expansion?

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Date: 8/06/2016 14:01:48
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 904563
Subject: re: Shockwaves

roughbarked said:


Like a diesel engine, doesn’t compression initiate ignition or expansion?

For myself the alignment forcing in SR is a compression wave.

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Date: 8/06/2016 14:14:12
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 904574
Subject: re: Shockwaves

Postpocelipse said:


roughbarked said:

Like a diesel engine, doesn’t compression initiate ignition or expansion?

For myself the alignment forcing in SR is a compression wave.

I suspect that every acceleration of any magnitude within a vacuum forces the same shock-wave delineation a supersonic jet or bullet creates through the air, upon the quantum foam(as moll puts it). Within an atmosphere this is dispersed quickly as friction but in a vacuum it remains until the kinetic energy of the object is depleted.

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Date: 8/06/2016 18:41:02
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 904706
Subject: re: Shockwaves

Postpocelipse said:


roughbarked said:

Like a diesel engine, doesn’t compression initiate ignition or expansion?

For myself the alignment forcing in SR is a compression wave.

Take the aberrational speeds at the periphery of elliptical galaxies. If you consider the EH of our SMBH as the leading edge of our galaxy’s shock-wave then it has to have trailing component edges with differing compression.

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Date: 8/06/2016 18:55:25
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 904708
Subject: re: Shockwaves

Postpocelipse said:


Postpocelipse said:

roughbarked said:

Like a diesel engine, doesn’t compression initiate ignition or expansion?

For myself the alignment forcing in SR is a compression wave.

Take the aberrational speeds at the periphery of elliptical galaxies. If you consider the EH of our SMBH as the leading edge of our galaxy’s shock-wave then it has to have trailing component edges with differing compression.

DM is shock-wave foam. DE is the varying compression rates we can observe space through.

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Date: 8/06/2016 19:04:45
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 904709
Subject: re: Shockwaves

Postpocelipse said:


Postpocelipse said:

Postpocelipse said:

For myself the alignment forcing in SR is a compression wave.

Take the aberrational speeds at the periphery of elliptical galaxies. If you consider the EH of our SMBH as the leading edge of our galaxy’s shock-wave then it has to have trailing component edges with differing compression.

DM is shock-wave foam. DE is the varying compression rates we can observe space through.

Since our galaxy is moving through a vacuum it is accelerating toward a phantom Great Attractor due to the shape of our shock-wave on the vacuum. This is how I believe the quantum vacuum thruster operates.

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Date: 8/06/2016 20:06:43
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 904743
Subject: re: Shockwaves

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Date: 8/06/2016 20:07:11
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 904744
Subject: re: Shockwaves

sorry, wrong thread.

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Date: 8/06/2016 20:41:59
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 904755
Subject: re: Shockwaves

Postpocelipse said:


Postpocelipse said:

Postpocelipse said:

Take the aberrational speeds at the periphery of elliptical galaxies. If you consider the EH of our SMBH as the leading edge of our galaxy’s shock-wave then it has to have trailing component edges with differing compression.

DM is shock-wave foam. DE is the varying compression rates we can observe space through.

Since our galaxy is moving through a vacuum it is accelerating toward a phantom Great Attractor due to the shape of our shock-wave on the vacuum. This is how I believe the quantum vacuum thruster operates.

Build your QVC out of a particularly dense metal bonded with a Vantablack coating on the interior of the vessel and I’d take a small bet the thrust would be increased.

The Blackest Material On Earth Can Make Metal Float

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Date: 8/06/2016 21:40:50
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 904829
Subject: re: Shockwaves

Postpocelipse said:


Postpocelipse said:

Postpocelipse said:

DM is shock-wave foam. DE is the varying compression rates we can observe space through.

Since our galaxy is moving through a vacuum it is accelerating toward a phantom Great Attractor due to the shape of our shock-wave on the vacuum. This is how I believe the quantum vacuum thruster operates.

Build your QVC out of a particularly dense metal bonded with a Vantablack coating on the interior of the vessel and I’d take a small bet the thrust would be increased.

The Blackest Material On Earth Can Make Metal Float

I think if you made a centrifuge disc out of Vantablack in a chamber of pressurised helium you could probably generate the effect I was looking for with the quantum tunnelling generator.

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Date: 10/06/2016 06:44:37
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 905376
Subject: re: Shockwaves

Postpocelipse said:


Postpocelipse said:

Postpocelipse said:

Take the aberrational speeds at the periphery of elliptical galaxies. If you consider the EH of our SMBH as the leading edge of our galaxy’s shock-wave then it has to have trailing component edges with differing compression.

DM is shock-wave foam. DE is the varying compression rates we can observe space through.

Since our galaxy is moving through a vacuum it is accelerating toward a phantom Great Attractor due to the shape of our shock-wave on the vacuum. This is how I believe the quantum vacuum thruster operates.

So I’m going with “Space is flat and mass is curved. Disparity between particles registers as a forcing of curvature on space(quantum foam) which mitigates this action through gravitation”.

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Date: 10/06/2016 06:47:29
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 905379
Subject: re: Shockwaves

Postpocelipse said:


Postpocelipse said:

Postpocelipse said:

DM is shock-wave foam. DE is the varying compression rates we can observe space through.

Since our galaxy is moving through a vacuum it is accelerating toward a phantom Great Attractor due to the shape of our shock-wave on the vacuum. This is how I believe the quantum vacuum thruster operates.

So I’m going with “Space is flat and mass is curved. Disparity between particles registers as a forcing of curvature on space(quantum foam) which mitigates this action through gravitation”.

Gravitation is the rejection of curvature by space.

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Date: 10/06/2016 06:49:39
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 905380
Subject: re: Shockwaves

Postpocelipse said:


Postpocelipse said:

Postpocelipse said:

Since our galaxy is moving through a vacuum it is accelerating toward a phantom Great Attractor due to the shape of our shock-wave on the vacuum. This is how I believe the quantum vacuum thruster operates.

So I’m going with “Space is flat and mass is curved. Disparity between particles registers as a forcing of curvature on space(quantum foam) which mitigates this action through gravitation”.

Gravitation is the rejection of curvature by space.

Yes I understand that is little different to “space is curved by mass”.

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