Date: 11/06/2016 18:31:24
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 906294
Subject: Climate Change Makes Our Food Poisonous

I listened to this on the way down the mountain this afternoon.
The thing is they don’t cite any instance of it.
When asked where it was happening the author said any place there is floods and droughts then started naming places that currently have floods and droughts.
That was it, that was all their data.
One giant frigging hand wave.

http://www.dw.com/en/study-climate-change-makes-our-food-more-poisonous/a-19297308

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Date: 11/06/2016 19:05:45
From: dv
ID: 906299
Subject: re: Climate Change Makes Our Food Poisonous

Peak Warming Man said:


I listened to this on the way down the mountain this afternoon.
The thing is they don’t cite any instance of it.
When asked where it was happening the author said any place there is floods and droughts then started naming places that currently have floods and droughts.
That was it, that was all their data.
One giant frigging hand wave.

http://www.dw.com/en/study-climate-change-makes-our-food-more-poisonous/a-19297308

I read the report.
It does seem somewhat speculative: not insane, but lacking in specific examples.

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Date: 11/06/2016 19:29:24
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 906311
Subject: re: Climate Change Makes Our Food Poisonous

>>I read the report.

Thank you stout yeoman.

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Date: 11/06/2016 20:29:35
From: PermeateFree
ID: 906333
Subject: re: Climate Change Makes Our Food Poisonous

Peak Warming Man said:


I listened to this on the way down the mountain this afternoon.
The thing is they don’t cite any instance of it.
When asked where it was happening the author said any place there is floods and droughts then started naming places that currently have floods and droughts.
That was it, that was all their data.
One giant frigging hand wave.

http://www.dw.com/en/study-climate-change-makes-our-food-more-poisonous/a-19297308

From your link, with the following appearing quite straight forward and the likely consciences of extreme temperatures.

>>One of the major findings is that as nature forces plants to adapt to drought or flood conditions, they turn on – or accumulate – different toxins that make them unpalatable or even poisonous to people and livestock.

Under normal growing conditions, plants really do produce a whole range of proteins and all kinds of beneficial nutrients. But when we have extreme weather such as drought conditions or floods, it makes the plant respond in different ways.

Crops such as barley, maize or millet – the big crops that we would know all over the world – start to slow down, or even prevent, the conversion of certain chemicals. Nitrate is one of them. When it accumulates in the plant itself, and then we consume it, or animals consume it, that acute nitrate level causes poisoning.

There’s another chemical which sounds very dangerous, “prussic acid” or hydrogen cyanide. That’s the one that we’re most concerned about. It can accumulate in cassava, flax, maize, sorghum – many of the things that people in the poorer part of the world rely on.

And at the other extreme, in more damp and flooding conditions you see fungal growth. We’ve seen burning of large amounts of stored maize and seeds in towns and cities in East Africa, because fungi spread and you can see them – they’re like a black mold sitting the seeds themselves. Of course, if that’s not picked up and it’s put into the milling, it goes in the flour, which means it makes its way into the bread that we eat.<<

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Date: 11/06/2016 20:53:02
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 906340
Subject: re: Climate Change Makes Our Food Poisonous

dv said:


Peak Warming Man said:

I listened to this on the way down the mountain this afternoon.
The thing is they don’t cite any instance of it.
When asked where it was happening the author said any place there is floods and droughts then started naming places that currently have floods and droughts.
That was it, that was all their data.
One giant frigging hand wave.

http://www.dw.com/en/study-climate-change-makes-our-food-more-poisonous/a-19297308

I read the report.
It does seem somewhat speculative: not insane, but lacking in specific examples.

I didn’t read the report.

Why did you bring this particular not very good report to our attention, rather than the millions of other not very good reports available on the Internet?

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Date: 11/06/2016 20:55:12
From: AwesomeO
ID: 906341
Subject: re: Climate Change Makes Our Food Poisonous

The Rev Dodgson said:


dv said:

Peak Warming Man said:

I listened to this on the way down the mountain this afternoon.
The thing is they don’t cite any instance of it.
When asked where it was happening the author said any place there is floods and droughts then started naming places that currently have floods and droughts.
That was it, that was all their data.
One giant frigging hand wave.

http://www.dw.com/en/study-climate-change-makes-our-food-more-poisonous/a-19297308

I read the report.
It does seem somewhat speculative: not insane, but lacking in specific examples.

I didn’t read the report.

That’s the spirit.

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Date: 12/06/2016 16:08:47
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 906746
Subject: re: Climate Change Makes Our Food Poisonous

Off topic but still on climate change, and I also heard it this afternoon.

An Alice Springs biologist has observed that the increase in the atmospheric CO2 since 1974 has encouraged the growth of Australia’s desert plants to such an extent that each “unit” plant now has twice the biomass for the same amount of rainfall that it did back in 1974.

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Date: 12/06/2016 17:27:54
From: PermeateFree
ID: 906770
Subject: re: Climate Change Makes Our Food Poisonous

mollwollfumble said:


Off topic but still on climate change, and I also heard it this afternoon.

An Alice Springs biologist has observed that the increase in the atmospheric CO2 since 1974 has encouraged the growth of Australia’s desert plants to such an extent that each “unit” plant now has twice the biomass for the same amount of rainfall that it did back in 1974.

It is happening in forests too. The problem being the normally fast growing species are growing still faster and crowding out the normally slow growing species and many lower-story plants. This is having a detrimental affect on the eco-system by disadvantaging a number of species, both animal and plant, but only advantaging a few.

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