Date: 2/12/2008 21:02:36
From: bon008
ID: 39564
Subject: Worm question

Sorry for the new thread – went back ages but couldn’t find a worm thread.

My worm farm seems to be staying persistently too wet =/ I’ve just pulled it apart and cleaned the sludgy stuff from the bottom – but it wasn’t actually blocked, just sitting below the line where it can drain out through the tap. I don’t add much water.. haven’t even open it in at least a week and a half! The only thing I can think of that might be making it worse is that I have a sheet of plastic on top, under a moist old rag – bit messy to put the rag straight on the dog poo..

Couple of questions:
- given that the tap (it’s one of the rectangular RELN farms) isn’t at the lowest part of the drainage layer, should I elevate the rear legs so it drains better?
- should I leave the lid + old rag + plastic sheet off for a few hours/more to let it dry out?

I’m thinking of giving up the old dog poo worm farm idea after the next harvest – just too messy. If I retire it I’ll get one of those below ground poo thingies where you just add enzymes to help it break down.

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Date: 3/12/2008 00:17:16
From: roughbarked
ID: 39566
Subject: re: Worm question

should I leave the lid + old rag + plastic sheet off for a few hours/more to let it dry out?

>>>>>
use paper instead.

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Date: 3/12/2008 11:21:55
From: bon008
ID: 39581
Subject: re: Worm question

roughbarked said:


should I leave the lid + old rag + plastic sheet off for a few hours/more to let it dry out?

>>>>>
use paper instead.

I can’t believe I didn’t think of that… Thanks roughbarked!! I’ll switch it over tonight and see how it goes..

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Date: 3/12/2008 14:58:08
From: Happy Potter
ID: 39593
Subject: re: Worm question

And Bonn, If you do ever get one of those pet septic units, make sure you get the right size depending on your dogs size. I got a small one that was suitable for one medium dog, but it kept blocking..it was doing my head in until I realised it was just too small for Max’s big droppings , so I covered it forever. I dispose of this waste in a compost bin in the corner of the rear shed behind ornamentals. I still have some of the enzymes , so if you eventually get a pet septic container let me know and I will send them onto you.

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Date: 3/12/2008 15:33:06
From: bon008
ID: 39596
Subject: re: Worm question

Happy Potter said:


And Bonn, If you do ever get one of those pet septic units, make sure you get the right size depending on your dogs size. I got a small one that was suitable for one medium dog, but it kept blocking..it was doing my head in until I realised it was just too small for Max’s big droppings , so I covered it forever. I dispose of this waste in a compost bin in the corner of the rear shed behind ornamentals. I still have some of the enzymes , so if you eventually get a pet septic container let me know and I will send them onto you.

Thanks HP :)

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Date: 7/01/2009 21:51:00
From: bon008
ID: 43056
Subject: re: Worm question

OK, something is happening in my worm farm that has never happened before =/

Nothing out of the ordinary has gone into it – just the usual dog poop, cardboard, and a layer of newspaper on top.

The dog poop has all gone mouldy :( It’s covered with white fuzzy mould but also some kind of bright yellow/orange substance.

I have no idea what’s happened or why, or what to do – I guess probably all I can do is removing all the weird stuff, and put in fresh stuff…

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Date: 8/01/2009 03:33:33
From: roughbarked
ID: 43057
Subject: re: Worm question

OK why don’t you add some straw or dried grass dried lawn clippings?

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Date: 8/01/2009 03:39:20
From: roughbarked
ID: 43058
Subject: re: Worm question

If it was me with a dog’s droppings and a worm farm.. I would dry and crush the dog droppings and mix them with my vegetable wastes before feeding to worms.

I just cannot imagine I’d like being fed nothing but dogshit.

Thanking myself for making the decision to give up dogs three or more decades past.

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Date: 8/01/2009 04:50:49
From: Lucky1
ID: 43059
Subject: re: Worm question

roughbarked said:

If it was me with a dog’s droppings and a worm farm.. I would dry and crush the dog droppings and mix them with my vegetable wastes before feeding to worms.

I just cannot imagine I’d like being fed nothing but dogshit.

Thanking myself for making the decision to give up dogs three or more decades past.

If you offer anything else in a worm farm, that is used to feed dog poo to them…… they’ll not eat the dog droppings…..they’ll eat all the other foods.

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Date: 8/01/2009 06:16:32
From: roughbarked
ID: 43062
Subject: re: Worm question

Lucky1 said:


roughbarked said:

If it was me with a dog’s droppings and a worm farm.. I would dry and crush the dog droppings and mix them with my vegetable wastes before feeding to worms.

I just cannot imagine I’d like being fed nothing but dogshit.

Thanking myself for making the decision to give up dogs three or more decades past.

If you offer anything else in a worm farm, that is used to feed dog poo to them…… they’ll not eat the dog droppings…..they’ll eat all the other foods.


Ok I don’t blame them..

but they aren’t eating them if the turds are just sitting there and changing colour so perhaps the worms are off colour?

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Date: 8/01/2009 07:55:33
From: Happy Potter
ID: 43068
Subject: re: Worm question

Morning Bonn , heres the number for tumbleweeds pet poo converter worm farms, maybe ask them why it’s going mouldy ?
Toll Free 1800 809 088.

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Date: 8/01/2009 08:04:03
From: roughbarked
ID: 43069
Subject: re: Worm question

A question.. were the dogs wormed recently?

This can kill the worms and may well be a reason why the poop isn’t being eaten.

Another could be that the worm farm is in too hot a spot..

Some shires like Sutherland shire .. do this..

The Sutherland Shire Council, along with many other NSW councils, runs a free course for shire residents called Earth Works, which helps people learn about composting and offers easier, simpler solutions.

“The course gives people the knowledge and ability to set up a system in their own home,” she says. “We also give them a free composting bin or worm farm to take home and set up.”

The course is a fantastic way to learn about composting. It offers quick, safe and money-efficient ways to get rid of your dog’s poo along with other household waste. If you are interested in the course, call the Sutherland Shire Council or your closest council for details. It’s well worth it, and if you are a Shire resident you get to take home a free composting bin or worm farm.

“It’s so popular we are booked up until next year,” adds Mandy.

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Date: 8/01/2009 08:08:39
From: roughbarked
ID: 43071
Subject: re: Worm question

Pet Poo Worm Farms

Worm farms usually convert fruit & vegetable scraps into vermicast (castings) and liquid vermicast (liquid fertiliser). However, you can turn a worm farm into a “Pet Poo Converter”.

A Pet Poo Converter is a worm farm where the worms are fed pet poo (dog or cat manure) and newspaper. It is set up in exactly the same way as a standard worm farm, but instead of feeding the worms with fruit and vegetable scraps, you feed them dog and cat manure. Please note: do not feed worms manure for 3-5 days following medication, particularly worming treatment.

Worm Farm Troubleshooter

If you encounter problems, refer to the ADAM & EVE principles as described under Compost. Some common problems and solutions are listed below.

Smelly Worm Farm

Your worm farm can start to smell if the worms are being fed more than they can eat or if the worm farm is too wet.

Fix it. Start by feeding the worms slowly and gradually build up the amount of food you feed them. Make sure the worm farm is well drained. If it is too wet, the worms may drown.

Unwelcome Visitors

Ant or cockroaches might find your worm farm a good place to live. Don’t worry, although they can be a nuisance, they won’t harm the worms.

Fix it. Keep a lid on your worm farm or keep a hessian, old carpet or cardboard cover over the food scraps. This will suppress smells and discourage unwelcome visitors. Rub a little Vaseline around each leg to prevent ants entering the worm farm. Ants also enjoy dry acidic conditions. Check that your worm farm is moist and add a sprinkling of wood ash, garden lime or dolomite to neutralise acidic conditions.

Going on Holidays?

Unlike other pets, you can leave worm farms unattended for weeks at a time.

Fix it. Worms will happily eat wet shredded paper for up to 6 weeks!

My worms won’t multiply

Worms need the right conditions in order to breed. They need to be kept cool (ideally 18 – 25oC) moist but not too wet, away from direct sunlight and be fed the right foods. Some foods such as fruits, grains and sugary foods tend to be acid forming. Worms will not live or breed well in acidic conditions.

Fix it. Keep your worm farm out of direct sunlight, make sure the farm or bed is covered so that it doesn’t get too we in the rain, ensure there is good drainage, and sprinkle a handful of wood ash, garden lime or dolomite on the farm every few weeks to neutralise any acid.

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Date: 8/01/2009 08:18:45
From: Happy Potter
ID: 43072
Subject: re: Worm question

My own 2yo vegetable worm farms have a little bit of mould on the newspaper top layer, I often find little funghi growing in there over the warmer months. Mine are being fed heaps atm from watermelon skins, which of course add a lot of moisture. The watermelon freaks here are buying one a day. Chooks get their share too.
You learn over time when to add a bit of water to the worm farm or hold off, if it’s a bit warm and stays moist longer.

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Date: 8/01/2009 08:22:29
From: roughbarked
ID: 43073
Subject: re: Worm question

sources Penrith shire http://www.penrithcity.nsw.gov.au/index.asp?id=1030

http://www.dogslife.com.au/dogs_life_articles?cid=9444&pid=498832

Did I read that you fed them poo and cardboard?

I could imagine that to be a problem. Use cardboard as a lid yes but better to use newspaper for the food mix.

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Date: 8/01/2009 08:26:19
From: roughbarked
ID: 43074
Subject: re: Worm question

Happy Potter said:


My own 2yo vegetable worm farms have a little bit of mould on the newspaper top layer, I often find little funghi growing in there over the warmer months. Mine are being fed heaps atm from watermelon skins, which of course add a lot of moisture. The watermelon freaks here are buying one a day. Chooks get their share too.
You learn over time when to add a bit of water to the worm farm or hold off, if it’s a bit warm and stays moist longer.

Yeah it can sometimes be a fine line with the moisture thing.. due to temperatures.

Worms really hate sunlight and hot places.

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Date: 8/01/2009 08:27:32
From: Happy Potter
ID: 43075
Subject: re: Worm question

roughbarked said:


sources Penrith shire http://www.penrithcity.nsw.gov.au/index.asp?id=1030

http://www.dogslife.com.au/dogs_life_articles?cid=9444&pid=498832

Did I read that you fed them poo and cardboard?

I could imagine that to be a problem. Use cardboard as a lid yes but better to use newspaper for the food mix.

A soaked whole newspaper will keep it damp and dark. I lift it up to add a bucket of food and theres squillions of worms that immediately run from the light.

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Date: 8/01/2009 08:33:47
From: roughbarked
ID: 43076
Subject: re: Worm question

Happy Potter said:


roughbarked said:

sources Penrith shire http://www.penrithcity.nsw.gov.au/index.asp?id=1030

http://www.dogslife.com.au/dogs_life_articles?cid=9444&pid=498832

Did I read that you fed them poo and cardboard?

I could imagine that to be a problem. Use cardboard as a lid yes but better to use newspaper for the food mix.

A soaked whole newspaper will keep it damp and dark. I lift it up to add a bucket of food and theres squillions of worms that immediately run from the light.

Yes I agree about the wad of newspaper. I could imagine that much cardboard could have toxins that would be harmful to worms. I would choose carboard carefully.

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Date: 8/01/2009 08:35:05
From: Happy Potter
ID: 43078
Subject: re: Worm question

roughbarked said:


Happy Potter said:

My own 2yo vegetable worm farms have a little bit of mould on the newspaper top layer, I often find little funghi growing in there over the warmer months. Mine are being fed heaps atm from watermelon skins, which of course add a lot of moisture. The watermelon freaks here are buying one a day. Chooks get their share too.
You learn over time when to add a bit of water to the worm farm or hold off, if it’s a bit warm and stays moist longer.

Yeah it can sometimes be a fine line with the moisture thing.. due to temperatures.

Worms really hate sunlight and hot places.

All I know is the worm liquid and worm casts are wonderful in the garden, keeping all my plants healthy and theres no better recycling in my books.
It’s been fun keeping them too.
A couple of spiders have taken up residence under the farm lids and are getting fat on the little flies about. The family are notorious for putting contraband in the worm farms, but with the spiders there, now they leave them to me entirely lol.

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Date: 8/01/2009 08:37:21
From: roughbarked
ID: 43080
Subject: re: Worm question

Happy Potter said:


roughbarked said:

Happy Potter said:

My own 2yo vegetable worm farms have a little bit of mould on the newspaper top layer, I often find little funghi growing in there over the warmer months. Mine are being fed heaps atm from watermelon skins, which of course add a lot of moisture. The watermelon freaks here are buying one a day. Chooks get their share too.
You learn over time when to add a bit of water to the worm farm or hold off, if it’s a bit warm and stays moist longer.

Yeah it can sometimes be a fine line with the moisture thing.. due to temperatures.

Worms really hate sunlight and hot places.

All I know is the worm liquid and worm casts are wonderful in the garden, keeping all my plants healthy and theres no better recycling in my books.
It’s been fun keeping them too.
A couple of spiders have taken up residence under the farm lids and are getting fat on the little flies about. The family are notorious for putting contraband in the worm farms, but with the spiders there, now they leave them to me entirely lol.

It can be amazing how helpful a redback or a snake can be. ;;) I also use bee hives to keep people out of my garden.

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Date: 8/01/2009 08:40:33
From: Happy Potter
ID: 43084
Subject: re: Worm question

roughbarked said:


Happy Potter said:

roughbarked said:

Happy Potter said:

My own 2yo vegetable worm farms have a little bit of mould on the newspaper top layer, I often find little funghi growing in there over the warmer months. Mine are being fed heaps atm from watermelon skins, which of course add a lot of moisture. The watermelon freaks here are buying one a day. Chooks get their share too.
You learn over time when to add a bit of water to the worm farm or hold off, if it’s a bit warm and stays moist longer.

Yeah it can sometimes be a fine line with the moisture thing.. due to temperatures.

Worms really hate sunlight and hot places.

All I know is the worm liquid and worm casts are wonderful in the garden, keeping all my plants healthy and theres no better recycling in my books.
It’s been fun keeping them too.
A couple of spiders have taken up residence under the farm lids and are getting fat on the little flies about. The family are notorious for putting contraband in the worm farms, but with the spiders there, now they leave them to me entirely lol.

It can be amazing how helpful a redback or a snake can be. ;;) I also use bee hives to keep people out of my garden.

LOL Rough! Bees would be great for that.

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Date: 8/01/2009 08:41:29
From: roughbarked
ID: 43085
Subject: re: Worm question

Happy Potter said:


roughbarked said:

Happy Potter said:

roughbarked said:

Happy Potter said:

My own 2yo vegetable worm farms have a little bit of mould on the newspaper top layer, I often find little funghi growing in there over the warmer months. Mine are being fed heaps atm from watermelon skins, which of course add a lot of moisture. The watermelon freaks here are buying one a day. Chooks get their share too.
You learn over time when to add a bit of water to the worm farm or hold off, if it’s a bit warm and stays moist longer.

Yeah it can sometimes be a fine line with the moisture thing.. due to temperatures.

Worms really hate sunlight and hot places.

All I know is the worm liquid and worm casts are wonderful in the garden, keeping all my plants healthy and theres no better recycling in my books.
It’s been fun keeping them too.
A couple of spiders have taken up residence under the farm lids and are getting fat on the little flies about. The family are notorious for putting contraband in the worm farms, but with the spiders there, now they leave them to me entirely lol.

It can be amazing how helpful a redback or a snake can be. ;;) I also use bee hives to keep people out of my garden.

LOL Rough! Bees would be great for that.

paper wasps too ;)

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Date: 8/01/2009 08:45:46
From: Happy Potter
ID: 43087
Subject: re: Worm question

roughbarked said:


Happy Potter said:

roughbarked said:

Happy Potter said:

roughbarked said:

Happy Potter said:

My own 2yo vegetable worm farms have a little bit of mould on the newspaper top layer, I often find little funghi growing in there over the warmer months. Mine are being fed heaps atm from watermelon skins, which of course add a lot of moisture. The watermelon freaks here are buying one a day. Chooks get their share too.
You learn over time when to add a bit of water to the worm farm or hold off, if it’s a bit warm and stays moist longer.

Yeah it can sometimes be a fine line with the moisture thing.. due to temperatures.

Worms really hate sunlight and hot places.

All I know is the worm liquid and worm casts are wonderful in the garden, keeping all my plants healthy and theres no better recycling in my books.
It’s been fun keeping them too.
A couple of spiders have taken up residence under the farm lids and are getting fat on the little flies about. The family are notorious for putting contraband in the worm farms, but with the spiders there, now they leave them to me entirely lol.

It can be amazing how helpful a redback or a snake can be. ;;) I also use bee hives to keep people out of my garden.

LOL Rough! Bees would be great for that.

paper wasps too ;)

I have wasps out in the front garden, blue flower wasps. They’re pretty.

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Date: 8/01/2009 10:24:06
From: bon008
ID: 43106
Subject: re: Worm question

OK, I think I worked out what I did wrong =(

(thanks for your other ideas – but I am always very careful about worming the dog, and the cardboard has never been a problem before – I use toilet rolls)

Due to the ridiculous lack of space in my laundry, I’ve gotten used to using the worm farm as an extra bench – usually I just have a couple of buckets on top or something. However the other day I thoughtlessly moved a big box of newspaper on top of the farm – so I could open a cupboard door – and then forgot to move it back when I was finished in the cupboard.

I think it’s blocked off all the air holes at the top and raised the humidity (it’s been ~35-37 degrees here every day for almost two weeks) to a ridiculous level…

SIGH

I can’t fix it tonight as I’m going straight to mum’s after work, but tomorrow after work I’ll haul out all the festy stuff and put in the new stuff.

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Date: 8/01/2009 13:08:30
From: roughbarked
ID: 43114
Subject: re: Worm question

bon008 said:


OK, I think I worked out what I did wrong =(

(thanks for your other ideas – but I am always very careful about worming the dog, and the cardboard has never been a problem before – I use toilet rolls)

Due to the ridiculous lack of space in my laundry, I’ve gotten used to using the worm farm as an extra bench – usually I just have a couple of buckets on top or something. However the other day I thoughtlessly moved a big box of newspaper on top of the farm – so I could open a cupboard door – and then forgot to move it back when I was finished in the cupboard.

I think it’s blocked off all the air holes at the top and raised the humidity (it’s been ~35-37 degrees here every day for almost two weeks) to a ridiculous level…

SIGH

I can’t fix it tonight as I’m going straight to mum’s after work, but tomorrow after work I’ll haul out all the festy stuff and put in the new stuff.

Are the worms still ok?

why not make a mesh tray or get a mesh tray, which fits over the top and raises the stuff that you place on top such as you did.. This will still allow airflow while still allowing you space to move and work.

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Date: 8/01/2009 13:45:48
From: bon008
ID: 43121
Subject: re: Worm question

roughbarked said:

Are the worms still ok?

why not make a mesh tray or get a mesh tray, which fits over the top and raises the stuff that you place on top such as you did.. This will still allow airflow while still allowing you space to move and work.

I hope so – I only saw a couple when I checked yesterday. I’ll find out tomorrow I guess..

That’s a good idea, cheers. I’ll keep an eye out for something that could work..

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Date: 7/04/2009 15:39:00
From: Rook
ID: 52211
Subject: re: Worm question

Arvo everyone,

My worm farm has been chugging along for a Month now and all is good with the little fella’s

2 Questions

1. The newspaper on top of the bedding gets a white mould on it, is this okay?????????, normally i panic and throw it out

2. I assume the bedding gets acidic after a while, should i sweeten it by adding some gypsum? if so how much?

Thanks
Rook

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Date: 7/04/2009 15:43:22
From: bluegreen
ID: 52212
Subject: re: Worm question

don’t know about the mould but I think I have read that a handful of lime once a week will keep it sweet.

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Date: 7/04/2009 16:33:27
From: Lucky1
ID: 52213
Subject: re: Worm question

Rook said:


Arvo everyone,

My worm farm has been chugging along for a Month now and all is good with the little fella’s

2 Questions

1. The newspaper on top of the bedding gets a white mould on it, is this okay?????????, normally i panic and throw it out

2. I assume the bedding gets acidic after a while, should i sweeten it by adding some gypsum? if so how much?

Thanks
Rook

White mould ……does your paper dry out??? I just wet the paper down and keep on feeding them.

Handful of dolomite lime once a week or fortnight will keep them sweet as your wife on a cold night and its your birthday:D

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Date: 7/04/2009 20:08:53
From: Longy
ID: 52218
Subject: re: Worm question

Crikey. That’s a lot of lime.

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Date: 8/04/2009 08:49:48
From: Rook
ID: 52254
Subject: re: Worm question

Lucky1 said:


Rook said:

Arvo everyone,

My worm farm has been chugging along for a Month now and all is good with the little fella’s

2 Questions

1. The newspaper on top of the bedding gets a white mould on it, is this okay?????????, normally i panic and throw it out

2. I assume the bedding gets acidic after a while, should i sweeten it by adding some gypsum? if so how much?

Thanks
Rook

White mould ……does your paper dry out??? I just wet the paper down and keep on feeding them.

Handful of dolomite lime once a week or fortnight will keep them sweet as your wife on a cold night and its your birthday:D

Please give Nat a call and explain this to her…LOL

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Date: 8/04/2009 09:31:16
From: Lucky1
ID: 52257
Subject: re: Worm question

Handful of dolomite lime once a week or fortnight will keep them sweet as your wife on a cold night and its your birthday:D

Please give Nat a call and explain this to her…LOL
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LOL

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