Date: 13/06/2016 19:02:46
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 907445
Subject: Light pollution map.

There are interactive light pollution maps by year on the web.

Here is one map that appeared in tonight’s news.

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Date: 13/06/2016 19:07:18
From: stumpy_seahorse
ID: 907449
Subject: re: Light pollution map.

mollwollfumble said:


There are interactive light pollution maps by year on the web.

Here is one map that appeared in tonight’s news.


Looks like reflections off the salt pans are contributing to it.
am I right?

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Date: 13/06/2016 19:19:06
From: Michael V
ID: 907459
Subject: re: Light pollution map.

In Australia, light away from population centres are mines. (24 hour work, so strongly lit.) The Bowen Basin is quite clear, as are other mining areas, such as the iron ore mines in Western Australia.

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Date: 13/06/2016 19:23:09
From: monkey skipper
ID: 907460
Subject: re: Light pollution map.

Michael V said:


In Australia, light away from population centres are mines. (24 hour work, so strongly lit.) The Bowen Basin is quite clear, as are other mining areas, such as the iron ore mines in Western Australia.

Standing under the night sky of Coonamble and the Newell highway is so much different than in the CBD of Sydney.

The differences are just so far apart. The night sky is so visibly dense with stars when viewing from the north west interior of Australia quite spectacular the differences!

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Date: 13/06/2016 19:24:34
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 907461
Subject: re: Light pollution map.

stumpy_seahorse said:


Looks like reflections off the salt pans are contributing to it.
am I right?
I’ll let someone else answer that.

What I most noticed are:
1) Squid boats are still fishing the South China Sea off the west coast of Japan. It’s the largest patch of ocean full of light pollution.
2) All the best-known (V + IR) observatories in the world are in regions of strong light pollution. Consider that the biggest are almost all in Hawaii, Chile, USA and Europe. Perhaps it’s time to reconsider central Australia as a site.

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Date: 13/06/2016 19:29:10
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 907462
Subject: re: Light pollution map.

mollwollfumble said:


stumpy_seahorse said:

Looks like reflections off the salt pans are contributing to it.
am I right?
I’ll let someone else answer that.

What I most noticed are:
1) Squid boats are still fishing the South China Sea off the west coast of Japan. It’s the largest patch of ocean full of light pollution.
2) All the best-known (V + IR) observatories in the world are in regions of strong light pollution. Consider that the biggest are almost all in Hawaii, Chile, USA and Europe. Perhaps it’s time to reconsider central Australia as a site.


1) Oops, that’s South Korea.

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Date: 13/06/2016 19:38:36
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 907464
Subject: re: Light pollution map.

ooops wrong fred…..

or was it……

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Date: 13/06/2016 19:39:49
From: wookiemeister
ID: 907467
Subject: re: Light pollution map.

no one in any position of power in this or any other country have any notion or care factor about looking at the sky.

You normally install directional lighting to counter light pollution but that’s not going to happen – no brains

It’s going to get worse

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Date: 13/06/2016 19:39:50
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 907468
Subject: re: Light pollution map.

Official web site of the latest zoomable map, “The New World Atlas of Artificial Sky Brightness”.

http://cires.colorado.edu/artificial-sky

Here’s a screen dump from the southern Australian mainland.

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Date: 13/06/2016 19:52:35
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 907485
Subject: re: Light pollution map.

The light pattern over the USA is most interesting – Very widespread on the eastern half but far more sparse on the western, apart from LA, etc.

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Date: 13/06/2016 19:53:35
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 907487
Subject: re: Light pollution map.

Michael V said:


In Australia, light away from population centres are mines. (24 hour work, so strongly lit.) The Bowen Basin is quite clear, as are other mining areas, such as the iron ore mines in Western Australia.

I can see Olympic Dam and Moomba.

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Date: 13/06/2016 20:01:50
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 907489
Subject: re: Light pollution map.

Spiny Norman said:


The light pattern over the USA is most interesting – Very widespread on the eastern half but far more sparse on the western, apart from LA, etc.

Here’s a screen dump from Western USA. Pretty.

Wester interior light pollution is dominated by Denver, Las Vegas, Phoenix and Salt Lake City.

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Date: 13/06/2016 20:11:03
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 907491
Subject: re: Light pollution map.

The USA and Australia screen dumps are the same scale. Comparing the maps I see that light pollution from Sydney (incl. Newcastle and Wollongong) is very similar to that from Salt Lake City. The Salt Lake City “combined statistical area” has a population of 2.4 million, less than half the Australian equivalent.

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Date: 14/06/2016 10:19:47
From: Cymek
ID: 907678
Subject: re: Light pollution map.

mollwollfumble said:


The USA and Australia screen dumps are the same scale. Comparing the maps I see that light pollution from Sydney (incl. Newcastle and Wollongong) is very similar to that from Salt Lake City. The Salt Lake City “combined statistical area” has a population of 2.4 million, less than half the Australian equivalent.

We could create a new public holiday “Turn Your Lights Off At Night Day” so we can have a decent look at the sky. Strictly speaking we don’t need it to be a public holiday at you can’t look at the stars during the day but whose going to turn down a day off

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Date: 15/06/2016 05:41:09
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 908175
Subject: re: Light pollution map.

Cymek said:


mollwollfumble said:

The USA and Australia screen dumps are the same scale. Comparing the maps I see that light pollution from Sydney (incl. Newcastle and Wollongong) is very similar to that from Salt Lake City. The Salt Lake City “combined statistical area” has a population of 2.4 million, less than half the Australian equivalent.

We could create a new public holiday “Turn Your Lights Off At Night Day” so we can have a decent look at the sky. Strictly speaking we don’t need it to be a public holiday at you can’t look at the stars during the day but whose going to turn down a day off


I like it. ;-) From vague memory there has been a “switch your lights off at night for an hour” day.

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Date: 15/06/2016 09:42:02
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 908236
Subject: re: Light pollution map.

Photographs Of Cities From Space Have Shown A Worrying Trend

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