Date: 1/07/2016 15:51:47
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 915928
Subject: Peripersonal Space

This Illusion lets you ‘feel’ the invisible force field around your body

If you’ve ever caught yourself instinctively dodging an over-hanging branch or an uneven surface on the road based only on what your peripheral vision is telling you, congratulations, you’ve experienced a strange phenomenon known as your peripersonal space.

Like whiskers on cats tell them where their nose is in relation to their surroundings, our bodies are enveloped by an invisible ‘force field’, and neuroscientists have figured out how to make us feel it for the first time.

Most of us have a very strong feeling of personal space, and get super weirded-out when someone enters it uninvited, but you’d probably struggle to explain to somewhere where exactly the acceptable and creepy zones around you start and finish.

Fortunately, for scientists working in the field of neuropsychology, it’s their job to define interpersonal awkwardness, so they’ve have actually mapped out your own invisible bubble like so:

Pericutaneous space: The space immediately outside your body that can feel almost like someone is touching you if they enter it – for example, a feather might not be touching your skin, but if it’s in your percutaneous space, you might still experience the sensation of being tickled if it hovers close enough.

Peripersonal space: The space within arm’s or leg’s reach. So to be “within arm’s length” of you is to be within your peripersonal space.

Extrapersonal space: The space that occurs outside your reach.

So if you wave your arms and legs around, all that is the invisible force field that your brain has created to better perceive the world around it, and neuroscientists from the Karolinska Institute in Sweden have finally figured out how to make people actually perceive this.

more at link……..

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Date: 1/07/2016 15:59:12
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 915929
Subject: re: Peripersonal Space

Postpocelipse said:


This Illusion lets you ‘feel’ the invisible force field around your body

If you’ve ever caught yourself instinctively dodging an over-hanging branch or an uneven surface on the road based only on what your peripheral vision is telling you, congratulations, you’ve experienced a strange phenomenon known as your peripersonal space.

Like whiskers on cats tell them where their nose is in relation to their surroundings, our bodies are enveloped by an invisible ‘force field’, and neuroscientists have figured out how to make us feel it for the first time.

Most of us have a very strong feeling of personal space, and get super weirded-out when someone enters it uninvited, but you’d probably struggle to explain to somewhere where exactly the acceptable and creepy zones around you start and finish.

Fortunately, for scientists working in the field of neuropsychology, it’s their job to define interpersonal awkwardness, so they’ve have actually mapped out your own invisible bubble like so:

Pericutaneous space: The space immediately outside your body that can feel almost like someone is touching you if they enter it – for example, a feather might not be touching your skin, but if it’s in your percutaneous space, you might still experience the sensation of being tickled if it hovers close enough.

Peripersonal space: The space within arm’s or leg’s reach. So to be “within arm’s length” of you is to be within your peripersonal space.

Extrapersonal space: The space that occurs outside your reach.

So if you wave your arms and legs around, all that is the invisible force field that your brain has created to better perceive the world around it, and neuroscientists from the Karolinska Institute in Sweden have finally figured out how to make people actually perceive this.

more at link……..

> If you’ve ever caught yourself instinctively dodging an over-hanging branch or an uneven surface on the road based only on what your peripheral vision is telling you, congratulations, you’ve experienced a strange phenomenon known as your peripersonal space.

Derren Brown did an exceptionally successful illustration of this. While a person was sitting, he talked and simultaneously drew figures in the air in front of a seated person. He left the room and she stood up, and as she stood up through the air in which he’d been drawing, her peripersonal space, she was suddenly hit by all the ideas that had been illustrated in the air there.

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Date: 1/07/2016 16:03:13
From: Cymek
ID: 915932
Subject: re: Peripersonal Space

mollwollfumble said:


Postpocelipse said:

This Illusion lets you ‘feel’ the invisible force field around your body

If you’ve ever caught yourself instinctively dodging an over-hanging branch or an uneven surface on the road based only on what your peripheral vision is telling you, congratulations, you’ve experienced a strange phenomenon known as your peripersonal space.

Like whiskers on cats tell them where their nose is in relation to their surroundings, our bodies are enveloped by an invisible ‘force field’, and neuroscientists have figured out how to make us feel it for the first time.

Most of us have a very strong feeling of personal space, and get super weirded-out when someone enters it uninvited, but you’d probably struggle to explain to somewhere where exactly the acceptable and creepy zones around you start and finish.

Fortunately, for scientists working in the field of neuropsychology, it’s their job to define interpersonal awkwardness, so they’ve have actually mapped out your own invisible bubble like so:

Pericutaneous space: The space immediately outside your body that can feel almost like someone is touching you if they enter it – for example, a feather might not be touching your skin, but if it’s in your percutaneous space, you might still experience the sensation of being tickled if it hovers close enough.

Peripersonal space: The space within arm’s or leg’s reach. So to be “within arm’s length” of you is to be within your peripersonal space.

Extrapersonal space: The space that occurs outside your reach.

So if you wave your arms and legs around, all that is the invisible force field that your brain has created to better perceive the world around it, and neuroscientists from the Karolinska Institute in Sweden have finally figured out how to make people actually perceive this.

more at link……..

> If you’ve ever caught yourself instinctively dodging an over-hanging branch or an uneven surface on the road based only on what your peripheral vision is telling you, congratulations, you’ve experienced a strange phenomenon known as your peripersonal space.

Derren Brown did an exceptionally successful illustration of this. While a person was sitting, he talked and simultaneously drew figures in the air in front of a seated person. He left the room and she stood up, and as she stood up through the air in which he’d been drawing, her peripersonal space, she was suddenly hit by all the ideas that had been illustrated in the air there.

One of them was a thought bubble with the letter WTF in them

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Date: 1/07/2016 16:04:28
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 915934
Subject: re: Peripersonal Space

mollwollfumble said:


Postpocelipse said:

This Illusion lets you ‘feel’ the invisible force field around your body

If you’ve ever caught yourself instinctively dodging an over-hanging branch or an uneven surface on the road based only on what your peripheral vision is telling you, congratulations, you’ve experienced a strange phenomenon known as your peripersonal space.

Like whiskers on cats tell them where their nose is in relation to their surroundings, our bodies are enveloped by an invisible ‘force field’, and neuroscientists have figured out how to make us feel it for the first time.

Most of us have a very strong feeling of personal space, and get super weirded-out when someone enters it uninvited, but you’d probably struggle to explain to somewhere where exactly the acceptable and creepy zones around you start and finish.

Fortunately, for scientists working in the field of neuropsychology, it’s their job to define interpersonal awkwardness, so they’ve have actually mapped out your own invisible bubble like so:

Pericutaneous space: The space immediately outside your body that can feel almost like someone is touching you if they enter it – for example, a feather might not be touching your skin, but if it’s in your percutaneous space, you might still experience the sensation of being tickled if it hovers close enough.

Peripersonal space: The space within arm’s or leg’s reach. So to be “within arm’s length” of you is to be within your peripersonal space.

Extrapersonal space: The space that occurs outside your reach.

So if you wave your arms and legs around, all that is the invisible force field that your brain has created to better perceive the world around it, and neuroscientists from the Karolinska Institute in Sweden have finally figured out how to make people actually perceive this.

more at link……..

> If you’ve ever caught yourself instinctively dodging an over-hanging branch or an uneven surface on the road based only on what your peripheral vision is telling you, congratulations, you’ve experienced a strange phenomenon known as your peripersonal space.

Derren Brown did an exceptionally successful illustration of this. While a person was sitting, he talked and simultaneously drew figures in the air in front of a seated person. He left the room and she stood up, and as she stood up through the air in which he’d been drawing, her peripersonal space, she was suddenly hit by all the ideas that had been illustrated in the air there.

The Power of Symbol

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Date: 1/07/2016 16:06:22
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 915935
Subject: re: Peripersonal Space

In Chinese shamanic (Wu) Qigong, one important practice is energetic calligraphy: Fu (symbol)
Qigong. Wu (Shamans) use Fu to connect with the universal Qi to help people. The Daoist
tradition has continued some of the ancient Wu practices by incorporating them into its own
practices. In modern times, monks still use Fu to communicate with higher-level beings and with
Nature through certain rituals. Some Chinese medicine doctors, working in the classical style,
use Fu as a powerful treatment for their patients. As a shamanic Qigong practitioner, I want to
share some information about Fu with friends.

woowoo,

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Date: 1/07/2016 16:07:51
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 915936
Subject: re: Peripersonal Space

ChrispenEvan said:


In Chinese shamanic (Wu) Qigong, one important practice is energetic calligraphy: Fu (symbol)
Qigong. Wu (Shamans) use Fu to connect with the universal Qi to help people. The Daoist
tradition has continued some of the ancient Wu practices by incorporating them into its own
practices. In modern times, monks still use Fu to communicate with higher-level beings and with
Nature through certain rituals. Some Chinese medicine doctors, working in the classical style,
use Fu as a powerful treatment for their patients. As a shamanic Qigong practitioner, I want to
share some information about Fu with friends.

woowoo,

Playing with Thomas again?

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Date: 1/07/2016 16:08:54
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 915937
Subject: re: Peripersonal Space

Would you like to try an experiment Boris?

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Date: 1/07/2016 16:11:03
From: Cymek
ID: 915938
Subject: re: Peripersonal Space

ChrispenEvan said:


In Chinese shamanic (Wu) Qigong, one important practice is energetic calligraphy: Fu (symbol)
Qigong. Wu (Shamans) use Fu to connect with the universal Qi to help people. The Daoist
tradition has continued some of the ancient Wu practices by incorporating them into its own
practices. In modern times, monks still use Fu to communicate with higher-level beings and with
Nature through certain rituals. Some Chinese medicine doctors, working in the classical style,
use Fu as a powerful treatment for their patients. As a shamanic Qigong practitioner, I want to
share some information about Fu with friends.

woowoo,

I suppose if the woowoo can be explained by science it’s no longer woo, but the woo terminology doesn’t help if you want to be taken seriously.

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Date: 1/07/2016 16:12:46
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 915940
Subject: re: Peripersonal Space

Cymek said:


ChrispenEvan said:

In Chinese shamanic (Wu) Qigong, one important practice is energetic calligraphy: Fu (symbol)
Qigong. Wu (Shamans) use Fu to connect with the universal Qi to help people. The Daoist
tradition has continued some of the ancient Wu practices by incorporating them into its own
practices. In modern times, monks still use Fu to communicate with higher-level beings and with
Nature through certain rituals. Some Chinese medicine doctors, working in the classical style,
use Fu as a powerful treatment for their patients. As a shamanic Qigong practitioner, I want to
share some information about Fu with friends.

woowoo,

I suppose if the woowoo can be explained by science it’s no longer woo, but the woo terminology doesn’t help if you want to be taken seriously.

And who decides how a person who knows about a subject refers to it?

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Date: 1/07/2016 16:12:54
From: furious
ID: 915941
Subject: re: Peripersonal Space

I don’t think that this ‘experiment” is showing what they think it is showing…

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Date: 1/07/2016 16:14:03
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 915942
Subject: re: Peripersonal Space

furious said:


I don’t think that this ‘experiment” is showing what they think it is showing…

What do you think it is showing?

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Date: 1/07/2016 16:16:46
From: Cymek
ID: 915943
Subject: re: Peripersonal Space

Postpocelipse said:


Cymek said:

ChrispenEvan said:

In Chinese shamanic (Wu) Qigong, one important practice is energetic calligraphy: Fu (symbol)
Qigong. Wu (Shamans) use Fu to connect with the universal Qi to help people. The Daoist
tradition has continued some of the ancient Wu practices by incorporating them into its own
practices. In modern times, monks still use Fu to communicate with higher-level beings and with
Nature through certain rituals. Some Chinese medicine doctors, working in the classical style,
use Fu as a powerful treatment for their patients. As a shamanic Qigong practitioner, I want to
share some information about Fu with friends.

woowoo,

I suppose if the woowoo can be explained by science it’s no longer woo, but the woo terminology doesn’t help if you want to be taken seriously.

And who decides how a person who knows about a subject refers to it?

Is the above talking about peripersonal space or some mystical space aliens, you can make up any sort of crap and disguise in with woo woo or scientific words but it still needs proof.

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Date: 1/07/2016 16:17:57
From: Cymek
ID: 915944
Subject: re: Peripersonal Space

furious said:


I don’t think that this ‘experiment” is showing what they think it is showing…

I thought it was brain trickery and shows to me how easily our senses (or one anyway) can be tricked.

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Date: 1/07/2016 16:20:43
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 915945
Subject: re: Peripersonal Space

i wonder if they blindfolded the test subjects to see if they still “felt” the stroking even when they couldn’t see it?

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Date: 1/07/2016 16:21:13
From: furious
ID: 915946
Subject: re: Peripersonal Space

They say it right off the bat in the title of the article “This Illusion…”

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Date: 1/07/2016 16:23:14
From: Cymek
ID: 915948
Subject: re: Peripersonal Space

ChrispenEvan said:


i wonder if they blindfolded the test subjects to see if they still “felt” the stroking even when they couldn’t see it?

That would interesting to see what happens, if it didn’t work then us seeing it tells our brain how we should react.

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Date: 1/07/2016 16:23:15
From: furious
ID: 915949
Subject: re: Peripersonal Space

I also wondered that…

How big is Peripersonal Space in the dark?

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Date: 1/07/2016 16:24:57
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 915950
Subject: re: Peripersonal Space

Cymek said:


Postpocelipse said:

Cymek said:

I suppose if the woowoo can be explained by science it’s no longer woo, but the woo terminology doesn’t help if you want to be taken seriously.

And who decides how a person who knows about a subject refers to it?

Is the above talking about peripersonal space or some mystical space aliens, you can make up any sort of crap and disguise in with woo woo or scientific words but it still needs proof.

Moll referred to an instance of a person drawing symbols in the air that transmitted knowledge to another when she moved through the position in the air he drew the symbols. These power symbols are known as paqua by eastern tradition and symbols such as the Tao are examples.

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Date: 1/07/2016 16:26:34
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 915952
Subject: re: Peripersonal Space

Cymek said:


furious said:

I don’t think that this ‘experiment” is showing what they think it is showing…

I thought it was brain trickery and shows to me how easily our senses (or one anyway) can be tricked.

You could save me the time of googling the large number of experiments that have been recorded over just the last 30 years for yourself.

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Date: 1/07/2016 16:26:49
From: Cymek
ID: 915953
Subject: re: Peripersonal Space

Postpocelipse said:


Cymek said:

Postpocelipse said:

And who decides how a person who knows about a subject refers to it?

Is the above talking about peripersonal space or some mystical space aliens, you can make up any sort of crap and disguise in with woo woo or scientific words but it still needs proof.

Moll referred to an instance of a person drawing symbols in the air that transmitted knowledge to another when she moved through the position in the air he drew the symbols. These power symbols are known as paqua by eastern tradition and symbols such as the Tao are examples.

I wasn’t sure if he was being serious or not

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Date: 1/07/2016 16:29:27
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 915955
Subject: re: Peripersonal Space

furious said:

  • i wonder if they blindfolded the test subjects to see if they still “felt” the stroking even when they couldn’t see it?

I also wondered that…

How big is Peripersonal Space in the dark?

I myself have demonstrated kicking a bag, twice in succession, that has been set swinging behind me, while blindfolded. The bag was suspended by rope and made no discernible noise while swinging.

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Date: 1/07/2016 16:30:46
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 915956
Subject: re: Peripersonal Space

Postpocelipse said:

I myself have demonstrated kicking a bag, twice in succession, that has been set swinging behind me, while blindfolded. The bag was suspended by rope and made no discernible noise while swinging.


What’s your Midi-chlorian count?

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Date: 1/07/2016 16:31:17
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 915958
Subject: re: Peripersonal Space

i love the smell of anecdotes in the arvo.

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Date: 1/07/2016 16:32:08
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 915959
Subject: re: Peripersonal Space

Witty Rejoinder said:


Postpocelipse said:

I myself have demonstrated kicking a bag, twice in succession, that has been set swinging behind me, while blindfolded. The bag was suspended by rope and made no discernible noise while swinging.


What’s your Midi-chlorian count?

Don’t call me count.

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Date: 1/07/2016 16:32:50
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 915960
Subject: re: Peripersonal Space

ChrispenEvan said:


i love the smell of anecdotes in the arvo.

Your bbq’s must be interesting.

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Date: 1/07/2016 16:34:06
From: Cymek
ID: 915964
Subject: re: Peripersonal Space

Doesn’t the human brain use all sorts of trickery to fill in our perception of reality so it appears smooth instead of the processing lag that exists

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Date: 1/07/2016 16:35:14
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 915967
Subject: re: Peripersonal Space

Postpocelipse said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

Postpocelipse said:

I myself have demonstrated kicking a bag, twice in succession, that has been set swinging behind me, while blindfolded. The bag was suspended by rope and made no discernible noise while swinging.


What’s your Midi-chlorian count?

Don’t call me count.

I’ve never studied with anyone in particular. I’ve always had a strong sense of my surroundings even in unfamiliar environments in the dark-if I’m paying any attention.

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Date: 1/07/2016 16:36:08
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 915968
Subject: re: Peripersonal Space

it is also amusing that Derren Brown has been cited as he is a great disprover of woo.

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Date: 1/07/2016 16:37:13
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 915970
Subject: re: Peripersonal Space

Cymek said:


Doesn’t the human brain use all sorts of trickery to fill in our perception of reality so it appears smooth instead of the processing lag that exists

All animals have an awareness of the magnetic environment to one degree or another. If you read the article it mentions being able to stimulate specific neurons in chimpanzees that trigger defensive reflexes.

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Date: 1/07/2016 16:43:29
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 915975
Subject: re: Peripersonal Space

Postpocelipse said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

Postpocelipse said:

I myself have demonstrated kicking a bag, twice in succession, that has been set swinging behind me, while blindfolded. The bag was suspended by rope and made no discernible noise while swinging.


What’s your Midi-chlorian count?

Don’t call me count.

LOL

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Date: 1/07/2016 16:50:06
From: dv
ID: 915979
Subject: re: Peripersonal Space

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Date: 1/07/2016 16:50:32
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 915980
Subject: re: Peripersonal Space

dv said:



Who dat?

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Date: 1/07/2016 16:51:27
From: furious
ID: 915983
Subject: re: Peripersonal Space

I am guessing…Peri?

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Date: 1/07/2016 16:53:28
From: Cymek
ID: 915985
Subject: re: Peripersonal Space

Postpocelipse said:


Cymek said:

Doesn’t the human brain use all sorts of trickery to fill in our perception of reality so it appears smooth instead of the processing lag that exists

All animals have an awareness of the magnetic environment to one degree or another. If you read the article it mentions being able to stimulate specific neurons in chimpanzees that trigger defensive reflexes.

It would interesting to see (but currently impossible) if a different planets magnetic environment upset our ability to navigate.

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Date: 1/07/2016 17:00:04
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 915986
Subject: re: Peripersonal Space

furious said:

  • Who dat?

I am guessing…Peri?

she had a nice pair.

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Date: 1/07/2016 17:01:46
From: Cymek
ID: 915989
Subject: re: Peripersonal Space

ChrispenEvan said:


furious said:
  • Who dat?

I am guessing…Peri?

she had a nice pair.

It’s what she was remembered for

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Date: 1/07/2016 17:06:55
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 915995
Subject: re: Peripersonal Space

Cymek said:


ChrispenEvan said:

furious said:
  • Who dat?

I am guessing…Peri?

she had a nice pair.

It’s what she was remembered for

Creamy on the outside spicy in the middle…….

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Date: 1/07/2016 17:09:00
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 915996
Subject: re: Peripersonal Space

Cymek said:


Postpocelipse said:

Cymek said:

Doesn’t the human brain use all sorts of trickery to fill in our perception of reality so it appears smooth instead of the processing lag that exists

All animals have an awareness of the magnetic environment to one degree or another. If you read the article it mentions being able to stimulate specific neurons in chimpanzees that trigger defensive reflexes.

It would interesting to see (but currently impossible) if a different planets magnetic environment upset our ability to navigate.

I’m one of those people who isn’t fond of crowds.

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