Say if you could wire the northern magnetic field and the southern magnetic field in space would you get a current ?

What if a ring was made to go around the earth in space from north to south and then make a coil that is wrapped around the entire ring

the ring would spin around the earth unless a design could be made to be stationary

maybe satellites could use it to refuel

if its possible to get a design to work that is

CrazyNeutrino said:

Say if you could wire the northern magnetic field and the southern magnetic field in space would you get a current ?

What if a ring was made to go around the earth in space from north to south and then make a coil that is wrapped around the entire ring

the ring would spin around the earth unless a design could be made to be stationary

maybe satellites could use it to refuel

if its possible to get a design to work that is

Electrical energy is not enough to refuel. you need expendable mass.

how would you stop the bits of the coil over the poles from falling?

ChrispenEvan said:

how would you stop the bits of the coil over the poles from falling?

a Rogatywka?

ChrispenEvan said:

how would you stop the bits of the coil over the poles from falling?

Get the ring to spin in the opposite direction?

CrazyNeutrino said:

ChrispenEvan said:

how would you stop the bits of the coil over the poles from falling?

Get the ring to spin in the opposite direction?

to the Earth that is

even spinning it isn’t in an orbit and will thus come, or want to, back to earth.

CrazyNeutrino said:

Say if you could wire the northern magnetic field and the southern magnetic field in space would you get a current ?

What if a ring was made to go around the earth in space from north to south and then make a coil that is wrapped around the entire ring

the ring would spin around the earth unless a design could be made to be stationary

maybe satellites could use it to refuel

if its possible to get a design to work that is

There’s no problem with orbit, if the elastic modulus of the wires is large enough. The rotation speed can be independent of the altitude. It will even stay up there with minimal correction energy if stationary.

The problem is that the energy you get out can’t be more than the energy you put in. As you spin it up you require energy to do it. As you extract electric power the resultant eddy currents in the coil reduce the spin rate. No energy is removable unless the spin rate is decreasing.

mollwollfumble said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

Say if you could wire the northern magnetic field and the southern magnetic field in space would you get a current ?

What if a ring was made to go around the earth in space from north to south and then make a coil that is wrapped around the entire ring

the ring would spin around the earth unless a design could be made to be stationary

maybe satellites could use it to refuel

if its possible to get a design to work that is

There’s no problem with orbit, if the elastic modulus of the wires is large enough. The rotation speed can be independent of the altitude. It will even stay up there with minimal correction energy if stationary.

The problem is that the energy you get out can’t be more than the energy you put in. As you spin it up you require energy to do it. As you extract electric power the resultant eddy currents in the coil reduce the spin rate. No energy is removable unless the spin rate is decreasing.

could adding a coiled spheroid of a certain size decease the spin rate?

move it in closer to the coiled ring

CrazyNeutrino said:

mollwollfumble said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

Say if you could wire the northern magnetic field and the southern magnetic field in space would you get a current ?

What if a ring was made to go around the earth in space from north to south and then make a coil that is wrapped around the entire ring

the ring would spin around the earth unless a design could be made to be stationary

maybe satellites could use it to refuel

if its possible to get a design to work that is

There’s no problem with orbit, if the elastic modulus of the wires is large enough. The rotation speed can be independent of the altitude. It will even stay up there with minimal correction energy if stationary.

The problem is that the energy you get out can’t be more than the energy you put in. As you spin it up you require energy to do it. As you extract electric power the resultant eddy currents in the coil reduce the spin rate. No energy is removable unless the spin rate is decreasing.

could adding a coiled spheroid of a certain size decease the spin rate?

move it in closer to the coiled ring

Huh? Why would you think that?

The coiled spheroid idea from this clever fellow

Zero Lenz dynamo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-dhIK2ozz0&feature=youtu.be

Zero Lenz dynamo

got a scientific paper on these or just woo videos?

ChrispenEvan said:

Zero Lenz dynamo

got a scientific paper on these or just woo videos?

just wondering if a design could use the magnetic field of the earth and earths spinning and solar wind charged particles to create a magnetic motor in space

the free energy thing is something else

ChrispenEvan said:

Zero Lenz dynamo

got a scientific paper on these or just woo videos?

maybe a giant coiled ring around Jupiter which has a stronger magnetic field?

CrazyNeutrino said:

ChrispenEvan said:

Zero Lenz dynamo

got a scientific paper on these or just woo videos?

just wondering if a design could use the magnetic field of the earth and earths spinning and solar wind charged particles to create a magnetic motor in space

the free energy thing is something else

the energy could be used for ion engine refueling

nothing to do with chemical rockets

how would it refuel ion engines which use a gas, argon in some cases, as fuel?

Must be some way to use spinning planets with magnetic fields as electric motors.

ChrispenEvan said:

how would it refuel ion engines which use a gas, argon in some cases, as fuel?

mine argon further out in space

ChrispenEvan said:

Zero Lenz dynamo

got a scientific paper on these or just woo videos?

Oh, Jaysus. Lenz was a serious engineer/scientist, this woo would have driven him to a homicidal rage.

sibeen said:

ChrispenEvan said:

Zero Lenz dynamo

got a scientific paper on these or just woo videos?

Oh, Jaysus. Lenz was a serious engineer/scientist, this woo would have driven him to a homicidal rage.

Alright it is woo

but it got me wondering about electric motors in space using planets