http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2016-07-10/the-ends-of-aids-as-a-public-health-issue-in-australia/7580852

The nation’s top scientists have declared “the end of AIDS” as a public health issue, as Australia joins the ranks of a select few countries which have successfully beaten the epidemic.

End of AIDS is not the end of HIV, experts say
The number of Australians being diagnosed with AIDS each year is now so small, researchers from the Kirby and Peter Doherty institutes and the Australian Federation of AIDS Organisations have announced the age of the fatal syndrome over.

Key points: Number of AIDS-related deaths in Australia so low it is not recorded At peak in 1990s, about 1,000 Australians died each year End of AIDS is not the end of HIV, experts say

dv said:

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2016-07-10/the-ends-of-aids-as-a-public-health-issue-in-australia/7580852

The nation’s top scientists have declared “the end of AIDS” as a public health issue, as Australia joins the ranks of a select few countries which have successfully beaten the epidemic.

End of AIDS is not the end of HIV, experts say
The number of Australians being diagnosed with AIDS each year is now so small, researchers from the Kirby and Peter Doherty institutes and the Australian Federation of AIDS Organisations have announced the age of the fatal syndrome over.

Key points: Number of AIDS-related deaths in Australia so low it is not recorded At peak in 1990s, about 1,000 Australians died each year End of AIDS is not the end of HIV, experts say

There was a radio program I was listen to, where they interviewed a number of male homosexuals and asked if they were taking precautions to avoid getting HIV and AIDS (HIV is increasing). They replied almost to the man that they seldom do these days as the drugs now available safeguards them from AIDS and is highly effective. When the interviewer stated the drugs were very expensive and the costs were being covered by the general public. Their reaction was they didn’t care and so what if the public was paying for their additional sexual pleasure and freedom. Personally, I found that highly irresponsible.

WHO mortality statistics for HIV in Australia. Selected years.
Note that this does not include disablement.

Year HIV_deaths
2011 91
2010 71
2009 79
2008 67
2007 87
2006 101
2000 134
1995 502
1990 355
1985 47

The WHO has received no data on AIDS deaths in Australia since 2011.

Countries each with more than 500 AIDS deaths in the year 2013 are:
Argentina, Brazil, Chile, Columbia, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, Italy, Jamaica, Mexico, Panama, Peru, Russia, South Africa, Spain, Thailand, Ukraine, USA, Venezuela.

Most, interestingly, in South and Central america. Athletes in Rio should forget the zika virus, and worry about HIV. 12,559 deaths from AIDS in Brazil in 2013.

But on the other hand, no reliable data has ever reached the WHO about AIDS deaths from some countries including India, Pakistan, Nigeria, and most of the rest of Africa.

HIV/AIDS is no longer a death sentence, which is fantastic.

I still remember this ad which scared the bejesus outta me when I was a kid. Perhaps we need a similar message for obesity-related diseases to combat this epidemic?

Divine Angel said:

HIV/AIDS is no longer a death sentence, which is fantastic.

I still remember this ad which scared the bejesus outta me when I was a kid. Perhaps we need a similar message for obesity-related diseases to combat this epidemic?

Smokers still buy the plain packaged cigarettes with all the horrible pictures on them.

There’s some evidence which suggests anti-smoking campaigns actually make people want to smoke more, however I don’t know if pro-healthy ads make people want to eat unhealthy food.

I envision an ad with a fat Grim Reaper bowling a carton of McDonald’s food down the lane to strike people down. These people have all sorts of health problems: high blood pressure, high cholesterol, diabetes, cancer etc.

Divine Angel said:

There’s some evidence which suggests anti-smoking campaigns actually make people want to smoke more, however I don’t know if pro-healthy ads make people want to eat unhealthy food.

I envision an ad with a fat Grim Reaper bowling a carton of McDonald’s food down the lane to strike people down. These people have all sorts of health problems: high blood pressure, high cholesterol, diabetes, cancer etc.

Wait. Make non smokers want to smoke or make existing smokers want to smoke more?

One study I read (from 1995) said non-smoking teenagers wanted to take up smoking as an act of defiance. Other studies focus on adult smokers and suggest smokers want to smoke after seeing an anti-smoking ad.

Arts said:

Divine Angel said:

There’s some evidence which suggests anti-smoking campaigns actually make people want to smoke more, however I don’t know if pro-healthy ads make people want to eat unhealthy food.

I envision an ad with a fat Grim Reaper bowling a carton of McDonald’s food down the lane to strike people down. These people have all sorts of health problems: high blood pressure, high cholesterol, diabetes, cancer etc.

Wait. Make non smokers want to smoke or make existing smokers want to smoke more?

I doubt that non-smokers want to watch smoking ads.

There was a trial in England. Where a brand of cigarettes called Death, outsold all other brands for the brief period it was on sale.

Divine Angel said:

There’s some evidence which suggests anti-smoking campaigns actually make people want to smoke more, however I don’t know if pro-healthy ads make people want to eat unhealthy food.

I envision an ad with a fat Grim Reaper bowling a carton of McDonald’s food down the lane to strike people down. These people have all sorts of health problems: high blood pressure, high cholesterol, diabetes, cancer etc.

anti-smoking ads are the worst when you’re trying to quit

Yes I can understand a smoker seeing an ad and feeling like a cigarette. Also act of defiance by teens (quite normal). I don’t think the smoking ads or pictures make non smokers want to smoke. It’s all in how you present your findings but they aren’t all that surprising.

Was it the Tasmanian pollie who wanted to ban smoking for all those born after 2000?

roughbarked said:

Divine Angel said:

HIV/AIDS is no longer a death sentence, which is fantastic.

I still remember this ad which scared the bejesus outta me when I was a kid. Perhaps we need a similar message for obesity-related diseases to combat this epidemic?

Smokers still buy the plain packaged cigarettes with all the horrible pictures on them.

But in significantly reduced numbers. The program has been successful.

Divine Angel said:

HIV/AIDS is no longer a death sentence, which is fantastic.

I still remember this ad which scared the bejesus outta me when I was a kid. Perhaps we need a similar message for obesity-related diseases to combat this epidemic?

HIV/AIDS is still a death sentence!
It killed 1.2 million (somewhere between 0.98 and 1.6 million) people in 2014.

We need to completely eliminate HIV worldwide ASAP.

mollwollfumble said:

Divine Angel said:

HIV/AIDS is no longer a death sentence, which is fantastic.

I still remember this ad which scared the bejesus outta me when I was a kid. Perhaps we need a similar message for obesity-related diseases to combat this epidemic?

HIV/AIDS is still a death sentence!
It killed 1.2 million (somewhere between 0.98 and 1.6 million) people in 2014.

We need to completely eliminate HIV worldwide ASAP.

How?

dv said:

mollwollfumble said:

Divine Angel said:

HIV/AIDS is no longer a death sentence, which is fantastic.

I still remember this ad which scared the bejesus outta me when I was a kid. Perhaps we need a similar message for obesity-related diseases to combat this epidemic?

HIV/AIDS is still a death sentence!
It killed 1.2 million (somewhere between 0.98 and 1.6 million) people in 2014.

We need to completely eliminate HIV worldwide ASAP.

How?

Lock up everyone with HIV on a remote island somewhere?

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

mollwollfumble said:

HIV/AIDS is still a death sentence!
It killed 1.2 million (somewhere between 0.98 and 1.6 million) people in 2014.

We need to completely eliminate HIV worldwide ASAP.

How?

Lock up everyone with HIV on a remote island somewhere?

And shoot them?

dv said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

How?

Lock up everyone with HIV on a remote island somewhere?

And shoot them?

Nuking them from orbit would be more efficient but possibly less cost effective..

I mean basically I am opposed to eliminating HIV ASAP literally.

I would be very happy if a vaccine were developed but even if it is developed, I would expect HIV to be eliminated about 100 years from now when the last person with HIV dies a merry old age.

dv said:

I mean basically I am opposed to eliminating HIV ASAP literally.

I am opposed to your opposition.

Every deadly transmissible disease needs to be eliminated completely. The top priorities are HIV, TB, tetanus, diphtheria, whooping cough, meningococcal, septicemia, polio, measles, viral hepatitis, malaria, rabies, deadly intestinal infectious diseases, and other deadly sexually transmitted diseases.

They got it right with smallpox.

I couldn’t care a rats arse about deadly non-infectious diseases.

dv said:

mollwollfumble said:

Divine Angel said:

HIV/AIDS is no longer a death sentence, which is fantastic.

I still remember this ad which scared the bejesus outta me when I was a kid. Perhaps we need a similar message for obesity-related diseases to combat this epidemic?

HIV/AIDS is still a death sentence!
It killed 1.2 million (somewhere between 0.98 and 1.6 million) people in 2014.

We need to completely eliminate HIV worldwide ASAP.

How?

Same way as smallpox.

I’ll qualify:

HIV/AIDS is no longer a death sentence for people in Australia.

mollwollfumble said:

dv said:

mollwollfumble said:

HIV/AIDS is still a death sentence!
It killed 1.2 million (somewhere between 0.98 and 1.6 million) people in 2014.

We need to completely eliminate HIV worldwide ASAP.

How?

Same way as smallpox.

pretty sure the smallpox vaccine won’t work for AIDS…

diddly-squat said:

mollwollfumble said:

dv said:

How?

Same way as smallpox.

pretty sure the smallpox vaccine won’t work for AIDS…

Indeed, retroviruses are turning out to be a lot harder to develop vaccines for.

dv said:

Indeed, retroviruses are turning out to be a lot harder to develop vaccines for.

HIV is sooo 1980s.

Divine Angel said:

I’ll qualify:

HIV/AIDS is no longer a death sentence for people in Australia.

It’s not just that the mortality is low.

The news here is that new cases of AIDS are very rare in Australia, in low double digits per annum.

Divine Angel said:

dv said:

Indeed, retroviruses are turning out to be a lot harder to develop vaccines for.

HIV is sooo 1980s.

I see what you did there.

I SUPPOSE YOU THINK THIS IS FUNNY!

mollwollfumble said:

dv said:

I mean basically I am opposed to eliminating HIV ASAP literally.

I am opposed to your opposition.

Every deadly transmissible disease needs to be eliminated completely. The top priorities are HIV, TB, tetanus, diphtheria, whooping cough, meningococcal, septicemia, polio, measles, viral hepatitis, malaria, rabies, deadly intestinal infectious diseases, and other deadly sexually transmitted diseases.

They got it right with smallpox.

I couldn’t care a rats arse about deadly non-infectious diseases.

Doing it ASAP would be inhumane.

Do it ASA humanely P.

Just be thankful I scrapped my Charlie Sheen quip.

dv said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

How?

Lock up everyone with HIV on a remote island somewhere?

And shoot them?

You can’t do that.

That would be inhuman.

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Lock up everyone with HIV on a remote island somewhere?

And shoot them?

You can’t do that.

That would be inhuman.

Well it would be very human, but inhumane.

dv said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

And shoot them?

You can’t do that.

That would be inhuman.

Well it would be very human, but inhumane.

Eee, I can’t argue with that.

dv said:

mollwollfumble said:

dv said:

I mean basically I am opposed to eliminating HIV ASAP literally.

I am opposed to your opposition.

Every deadly transmissible disease needs to be eliminated completely. The top priorities are HIV, TB, tetanus, diphtheria, whooping cough, meningococcal, septicemia, polio, measles, viral hepatitis, malaria, rabies, deadly intestinal infectious diseases, and other deadly sexually transmitted diseases.

They got it right with smallpox.

I couldn’t care a rats arse about deadly non-infectious diseases.

Doing it ASAP would be inhumane.

Do it ASA humanely P.

It’s well known that HIV transmission rates are extremely low for a virus. That makes it easier to eliminate than smallpox.

mollwollfumble said:

dv said:

mollwollfumble said:

I am opposed to your opposition.

Every deadly transmissible disease needs to be eliminated completely. The top priorities are HIV, TB, tetanus, diphtheria, whooping cough, meningococcal, septicemia, polio, measles, viral hepatitis, malaria, rabies, deadly intestinal infectious diseases, and other deadly sexually transmitted diseases.

They got it right with smallpox.

I couldn’t care a rats arse about deadly non-infectious diseases.

Doing it ASAP would be inhumane.

Do it ASA humanely P.

It’s well known that HIV transmission rates are extremely low for a virus. That makes it easier to eliminate than smallpox.

You cannot eliminate HIV quickly unless you straight murder the people who have it. Even under the best case scenario, we can expect the people who currently have HIV to continue to have it until they die, which in some cases will be more than 100 years in the future.

HIV is a virus that may cause an infection, but AIDS is a condition or a syndrome. Being infected with HIV can lead to the development of AIDS, which stands for acquired immunodeficiency syndrome. AIDS develops when HIV has caused serious damage to the immune system.

I admit the show “the Science of Stupid” did only show some CCTV footage of some (probably inebriated) teenagers racing the trolleys down a hill or their segment… not parents pushing children, either in the seat or the basket

PermeateFree said:

HIV is a virus that may cause an infection, but AIDS is a condition or a syndrome. Being infected with HIV can lead to the development of AIDS, which stands for acquired immunodeficiency syndrome. AIDS develops when HIV has caused serious damage to the immune system.

Bingo

Arts said:

I admit the show “the Science of Stupid” did only show some CCTV footage of some (probably inebriated) teenagers racing the trolleys down a hill or their segment… not parents pushing children, either in the seat or the basket

wrong thread…

or is it? ???

yeah wrong thread sorry

dv said:

mollwollfumble said:

It’s well known that HIV transmission rates are extremely low for a virus. That makes it easier to eliminate than smallpox.

You cannot eliminate HIV quickly unless you straight murder the people who have it. Even under the best case scenario, we can expect the people who currently have HIV to continue to have it until they die, which in some cases will be more than 100 years in the future.

Let’s start by making it illegal to infect someone with a deadly disease.

Penalties could be similar to manslaughter.

But a morally nicer course is that if you infect someone with a deadly disease then you pay all that person’s associated medical costs until one of you die. That way it even works for mothers who give their children HIV in utero.

Who said anything about “quickly”? I sure didn’t. Annual mortality rates with HIV are six times those without HIV.