Consider a household that reuses, recycles, composts etc to the maximum. What would be the best practice for dealing with meat scraps and bones? Is sending it to landfill the only option?
Get a dog.
dv said:
Consider a household that reuses, recycles, composts etc to the maximum. What would be the best practice for dealing with meat scraps and bones? Is sending it to landfill the only option?
Ours gets ‘recycled’ … in some sort of hot compost the local tip has running.
Hot compost = BBQ?
dv said:
Consider a household that reuses, recycles, composts etc to the maximum. What would be the best practice for dealing with meat scraps and bones? Is sending it to landfill the only option?
Get a dog.
Divine Angel said:
Hot compost = BBQ?
Ours gets thrown over the verandah for the wildlife. Butcherbirds, Kookaburras, Lace Monitors etc.
Get a dog.
Divine Angel said:
Hot compost = BBQ?
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=hot+compost&rlz=1C1NHXL_enAU699AU699&oq=hot+compost&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i60j69i59j69i60l3.1095j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
On the lawn for the Magpies.
get a dog or go see if your neighbour has a dog
dv said:
Consider a household that reuses, recycles, composts etc to the maximum. What would be the best practice for dealing with meat scraps and bones? Is sending it to landfill the only option?
A small amount of meat can go in your compost bin. Not too much though.
Bones are another issue entirely. The best recycling alternative I can think of is this: “Bone meal (or Bone manure) is a mixture of finely and coarsely ground animal bones and slaughter-house waste products. It is used as an organic fertilizer for plants and as a nutritional supplement for animals. As a slow-release fertilizer, bone meal is primarily used as a source of phosphorus and protein.” from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bone_meal
And not one of them hippie vegan dogs.
Arts said:
get a dog or go see if your neighbour has a dog
Not everyone is suited to owning dogs.
Magpies, on the other hand…
Arts said:
get a dog or go see if your neighbour has a dog
Give it to Bubblecar for his chooks.
Rule 303 said:
Arts said:
get a dog or go see if your neighbour has a dog
Not everyone is suited to owning dogs.
Magpies, on the other hand…
magpies aren’t eating bones…
Artsmagpies aren’t eating bones…
[/quote said:
They build stuff out of small bones.
Arts said:
Rule 303 said:
Arts said:
get a dog or go see if your neighbour has a dog
Not everyone is suited to owning dogs.
Magpies, on the other hand…
magpies aren’t eating bones…
Let’s try that again…
Arts said:
magpies aren’t eating bones…
They build stuff out of small bones.
Is dv junior scouring the neighbourhood for a meat recycling bin?
if my neighbors all bought me their meat scraps I would never have to buy ‘dinner’ or my dog again. Our dogs gets letovers most night, but some nights there aren’t any so i feed her raw chicken necks ($5 get me about three meals) or Chunkers™ which are kept in the freezer. I would not have to have the chunkers component if my neighbours donated their leftovers to my dog…
our vet says that human food leftovers are perfectly cromulent meals for the dog as long as they don’t contain too much onion, sultanas or grapes… (pft as if the dog will even get a look in at the chocolate)
speaking of dogs we were discussing dog scat at the zoo the other day.. well more like dingo scat and it used to be that that dogs scat were more often white in the old days from the amount of bones they ate over ‘processed foods’ now it’s vice versa
incinerate them in your biochar kiln.
Rule 303 said:
Let’s try that again…Arts said:
magpies aren’t eating bones…They build stuff out of small bones.
do you want ants? because that’s how you get ants…
seriously though, the canine is the most effective bone disposal system
Arts said:
Rule 303 said:
Let’s try that again…Arts said:
magpies aren’t eating bones…They build stuff out of small bones.
do you want ants? because that’s how you get ants…
seriously though, the canine is the most effective bone disposal system
Except for my dog.
Bones are fine to give to dogs as long they are not cooked… that’s the bones, not the dogs
kii said:
Arts said:
Rule 303 said:
Let’s try that again…They build stuff out of small bones.
do you want ants? because that’s how you get ants…
seriously though, the canine is the most effective bone disposal system
Except for my dog.
diddly-squat said:
Bones are fine to give to dogs as long they are not cooked… that’s the bones, not the dogs
yeah my vet reckons that’s a bit of hysteria.. while some bones can splinter and cause harm, he says it’s rare… (apart from chicken bones)
diddly-squat said:
Bones are fine to give to dogs as long they are not cooked… that’s the bones, not the dogs
kii said:
Arts said:
Rule 303 said:
Let’s try that again…They build stuff out of small bones.
do you want ants? because that’s how you get ants…
seriously though, the canine is the most effective bone disposal system
Except for my dog.
actually, the hyena is more effective than the canine, strongest jaws and all that.. but we don’t live in Africa…
Bigger dogs can handle cooked bones better than tiny dogs.
So now that we’ve solved DV’s meat and bone problem, what kind of dog should we recommend for him?
Arts said:
kii said:
Arts said:do you want ants? because that’s how you get ants…
seriously though, the canine is the most effective bone disposal system
Except for my dog.
actually, the hyena is more effective than the canine, strongest jaws and all that.. but we don’t live in Africa…
Tamb said:
diddly-squat said:Bones are fine to give to dogs as long they are not cooked… that’s the bones, not the dogs
Why’s that diddly? The bones, not the dogs
it is advised not to give dogs cooked bones as they can splinter
Arts said:
diddly-squat said:Bones are fine to give to dogs as long they are not cooked… that’s the bones, not the dogs
yeah my vet reckons that’s a bit of hysteria.. while some bones can splinter and cause harm, he says it’s rare… (apart from chicken bones)
sounds like the listeria/pregnant thing…
all about risk management, chances of it happening are small but the consequences if it occurs are potentially large…
Divine Angel said:
Bigger dogs can handle cooked bones better than tiny dogs.So now that we’ve solved DV’s meat and bone problem, what kind of dog should we recommend for him?
Handbag Chihuahua.
diddly-squat said:
Tamb said:
diddly-squat said:Bones are fine to give to dogs as long they are not cooked… that’s the bones, not the dogs
Why’s that diddly? The bones, not the dogsit is advised not to give dogs cooked bones as they can splinter
Tamb said:
diddly-squat said:
Tamb said:Why’s that diddly? The bones, not the dogs
it is advised not to give dogs cooked bones as they can splinter
OK. Thanks. We don’t give the dogs chook bones for that reason.
raw chicken bones are fine..
kii said:
Divine Angel said:
Bigger dogs can handle cooked bones better than tiny dogs.So now that we’ve solved DV’s meat and bone problem, what kind of dog should we recommend for him?
Handbag Chihuahua.
Arts said:
Tamb said:
diddly-squat said:it is advised not to give dogs cooked bones as they can splinter
OK. Thanks. We don’t give the dogs chook bones for that reason.raw chicken bones are fine..
years ago jagman was in perth and we went to the park with my dog… jagman threw him a stick and the dog etched about a million times (as he, the dog, had done a million times before) then there was that last time when the dog caught it awkwardly and it lodge down his throat. I ran to the dog and pulled the stick out and it was covered in blood, so off to the vet we go. The vet did the whole sedation clean up, would care etc thing. When I went to pick dog up the next day the vet said that the injury is why they advise people to not throw sticks or their dog (ad why the whole industry of fake sticks was born) but this was only the second time in 24 years she’s had to deal with such an injury
the dog was fine, but I never saw jagman again
What about the lint from your belly-button and clothes dryer – What are we all doing to dispose of that?
I got thinking about it as carelessly flushed some down the toilet.
Rule 303 said:
What about the lint from your belly-button and clothes dryer – What are we all doing to dispose of that?I got thinking about it as carelessly flushed some down the toilet.
Not interested in owning a dog at present and in any case, dogs aren’t garbage disposals for bones generally.
dv said:
Not interested in owning a dog at present and in any case, dogs aren’t garbage disposals for bones generally.
sure they are…
Bokashi
THEY’RE MADE OUT OF MEAT
by Terry Bisson
“They’re made out of meat.”
“Meat?”
“Meat. They’re made out of meat.”
“Meat?”
“There’s no doubt about it. We picked up several from different parts of the planet, took them aboard our recon vessels, and probed them all the way through. They’re completely meat.”
“That’s impossible. What about the radio signals? The messages to the stars?”
“They use the radio waves to talk, but the signals don’t come from them. The signals come from machines.”
“So who made the machines? That’s who we want to contact.”
“They made the machines. That’s what I’m trying to tell you. Meat made the machines.”
“That’s ridiculous. How can meat make a machine? You’re asking me to believe in sentient meat.”
“I’m not asking you, I’m telling you. These creatures are the only sentient race in that sector and they’re made out of meat.”
“Maybe they’re like the orfolei. You know, a carbon-based intelligence that goes through a meat stage.”
“Nope. They’re born meat and they die meat. We studied them for several of their life spans, which didn’t take long. Do you have any idea what’s the life span of meat?”
“Spare me. Okay, maybe they’re only part meat. You know, like the weddilei. A meat head with an electron plasma brain inside.”
“Nope. We thought of that, since they do have meat heads, like the weddilei. But I told you, we probed them. They’re meat all the way through.”
“No brain?”
“Oh, there’s a brain all right. It’s just that the brain is made out of meat! That’s what I’ve been trying to tell you.”
“So … what does the thinking?”
“You’re not understanding, are you? You’re refusing to deal with what I’m telling you. The brain does the thinking. The meat.”
“Thinking meat! You’re asking me to believe in thinking meat!”
“Yes, thinking meat! Conscious meat! Loving meat. Dreaming meat. The meat is the whole deal! Are you beginning to get the picture or do I have to start all over?”
“Omigod. You’re serious then. They’re made out of meat.”
“Thank you. Finally. Yes. They are indeed made out of meat. And they’ve been trying to get in touch with us for almost a hundred of their years.”
“Omigod. So what does this meat have in mind?”
“First it wants to talk to us. Then I imagine it wants to explore the Universe, contact other sentiences, swap ideas and information. The usual.”
“We’re supposed to talk to meat.”
“That’s the idea. That’s the message they’re sending out by radio. ‘Hello. Anyone out there. Anybody home.’ That sort of thing.”
“They actually do talk, then. They use words, ideas, concepts?”
“Oh, yes. Except they do it with meat.”
“I thought you just told me they used radio.”
“They do, but what do you think is on the radio? Meat sounds. You know how when you slap or flap meat, it makes a noise? They talk by flapping their meat at each other. They can even sing by squirting air through their meat.”
“Omigod. Singing meat. This is altogether too much. So what do you advise?”
“Officially or unofficially?”
“Both.”
“Officially, we are required to contact, welcome and log in any and all sentient races or multibeings in this quadrant of the Universe, without prejudice, fear or favor. Unofficially, I advise that we erase the records and forget the whole thing.”
“I was hoping you would say that.”
“It seems harsh, but there is a limit. Do we really want to make contact with meat?”
“I agree one hundred percent. What’s there to say? ‘Hello, meat. How’s it going?’ But will this work? How many planets are we dealing with here?”
“Just one. They can travel to other planets in special meat containers, but they can’t live on them. And being meat, they can only travel through C space. Which limits them to the speed of light and makes the possibility of their ever making contact pretty slim. Infinitesimal, in fact.”
“So we just pretend there’s no one home in the Universe.”
“That’s it.”
“Cruel. But you said it yourself, who wants to meet meat? And the ones who have been aboard our vessels, the ones you probed? You’re sure they won’t remember?”
“They’ll be considered crackpots if they do. We went into their heads and smoothed out their meat so that we’re just a dream to them.”
“A dream to meat! How strangely appropriate, that we should be meat’s dream.”
“And we marked the entire sector unoccupied.”
“Good. Agreed, officially and unofficially. Case closed. Any others? Anyone interesting on that side of the galaxy?”
“Yes, a rather shy but sweet hydrogen core cluster intelligence in a class nine star in G445 zone. Was in contact two galactic rotations ago, wants to be friendly again.”
“They always come around.”
“And why not? Imagine how unbearably, how unutterably cold the Universe would be if one were all alone …”
the end
my dog also eats banana, apple and watermelon… but won’t have anything to do with carrot
and I was just about to wish you a Happy Birthday… grrrrr shakes fist at Boris
what have i done now?
when i lived the “hippy” lifestyle down at Malimup i fed my dog, red cloud kelpie, basically what i ate. rice, steamed vegies and a couple of steamed herring. stews. curries, used to make them hot but she handled them. if i caught a rabbit she would get that, whole. she had biscuits, bones, chook included. you never saw a healthier looking dog.
When we had the red cattle dog x she went on the Wild Dog Diet. I’ve blah blahed about this before. One of the theories was to feed them smallish animals – because that’s that they would be hunting and catching. Bones (like chook bones) are okay, as others have said. Carrion and foraged foods – all good. She was very healthy after being on that diet for a while.
B&B
Divine Angel said:
Bigger dogs can handle cooked bones better than tiny dogs.So now that we’ve solved DV’s meat and bone problem, what kind of dog should we recommend for him?
A Pug. Of course. Hei Long can mung a bone to death. And pigs trotters. Although he prefers that Babushcka should crunch them a bit first. Mum used to buy half a sheeps head for the pugs we had when I was a child. A bit gruesome in our backyard, but they certainly liked to maul them.
he should adopt a couple of the greyhounds
Arts said:
he should adopt a couple of the greyhounds
YES!!
We put bones in the compost as they help to add calcium to the soil and don’t really have meat left over and if we do it goes to the chooks or buried in the compost and covered with grass, plant material etc to discourage flies, they are covered over anyway
Cymek said:
We put bones in the compost as they help to add calcium to the soil and don’t really have meat left over and if we do it goes to the chooks or buried in the compost and covered with grass, plant material etc to discourage flies, they are covered over anyway
Not a good idea to put meat in the compost. crush the bone first.
yeah, chooks get the bones here. they clean them pretty well. then chucked into the orchard when i take the top layer of soil.
All leftover foods in our house go to the disposal unit (anzac) except lettuce
roughbarked said:
Cymek said:
We put bones in the compost as they help to add calcium to the soil and don’t really have meat left over and if we do it goes to the chooks or buried in the compost and covered with grass, plant material etc to discourage flies, they are covered over anyway
Not a good idea to put meat in the compost. crush the bone first.
Bokashi…for the meat.
kii said:
Bokashi…
Bless you.
Divine Angel said:
kii said:Bokashi…
Bless you.
No. Thanks. No need for superstition.
It’s okay, I’m just going to build a throne out of them.
dv said:
It’s okay, I’m just going to build a throne out of them.
Just the one?
I throw bones and bits of meat onto the raised garden bed. Next day they are gone, no idea what takes them, a fox I assume.
AwesomeO said:
I throw bones and bits of meat onto the raised garden bed. Next day they are gone, no idea what takes them, a fox I assume.
Guaranteed.
AwesomeO said:
I throw bones and bits of meat onto the raised garden bed. Next day they are gone, no idea what takes them, a fox I assume.
Mystery-based waste disposal is much underrated
Hello.
monkey skipper said:
Hello.
hello, nice to meet you
Arts said:
monkey skipper said:
Hello.
hello, nice to meet you
Boom tish…
Some times he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy, the sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. My childhood was typical, summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring, we’d make meat helmets.