Date: 16/07/2016 12:14:36
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 924857
Subject: Global map reveals 'unsafe levels' of biodiversity

Global map reveals ‘unsafe levels’ of biodiversity across 58pc of Earth’s surface

Biodiversity has dropped below the “safe limit” across 58 per cent of the Earth’s surface, according to the most comprehensive analysis of global data to date.

The international study, published today in the journal Science, suggests that the degree of lost biodiversity across more than half the world’s surface is substantial enough to question the ability of many ecosystems to support human societies.

Key points

Planet’s “safe limits” exceeded if less than 90 per cent abundance of original species or 80 per cent of those species is retained Analysis found average local abundance of species across the world was 84.6 per cent Other experts say study is a warning but more work needed to clarify

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Date: 16/07/2016 14:40:44
From: PermeateFree
ID: 924927
Subject: re: Global map reveals 'unsafe levels' of biodiversity

CrazyNeutrino said:


Global map reveals ‘unsafe levels’ of biodiversity across 58pc of Earth’s surface

Biodiversity has dropped below the “safe limit” across 58 per cent of the Earth’s surface, according to the most comprehensive analysis of global data to date.

The international study, published today in the journal Science, suggests that the degree of lost biodiversity across more than half the world’s surface is substantial enough to question the ability of many ecosystems to support human societies.

Key points

Planet’s “safe limits” exceeded if less than 90 per cent abundance of original species or 80 per cent of those species is retained Analysis found average local abundance of species across the world was 84.6 per cent Other experts say study is a warning but more work needed to clarify

more…

Yes, we are doing a damn fine job there, soon we’ll be on the slide to mass extinction. Can’t wait.

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Date: 18/07/2016 11:48:11
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 926227
Subject: re: Global map reveals 'unsafe levels' of biodiversity

PermeateFree said:


CrazyNeutrino said:

Global map reveals ‘unsafe levels’ of biodiversity across 58pc of Earth’s surface

Biodiversity has dropped below the “safe limit” across 58 per cent of the Earth’s surface, according to the most comprehensive analysis of global data to date.

The international study, published today in the journal Science, suggests that the degree of lost biodiversity across more than half the world’s surface is substantial enough to question the ability of many ecosystems to support human societies.

Key points

Planet’s “safe limits” exceeded if less than 90 per cent abundance of original species or 80 per cent of those species is retained Analysis found average local abundance of species across the world was 84.6 per cent Other experts say study is a warning but more work needed to clarify

more…

Yes, we are doing a damn fine job there, soon we’ll be on the slide to mass extinction. Can’t wait.


You’re too late, it already happened. First the megafaunal extinction. Then the ice ages. Then agriculture. Then the massive insecticide sprayings and wetland destruction for malaria control in 1905 to 1942. Then the Chinese “war on the four pests” 1966 to 1976.

Each mass extinction was smaller than the previous one.

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Date: 18/07/2016 11:55:41
From: Cymek
ID: 926236
Subject: re: Global map reveals 'unsafe levels' of biodiversity

mollwollfumble said:


PermeateFree said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

Global map reveals ‘unsafe levels’ of biodiversity across 58pc of Earth’s surface

Biodiversity has dropped below the “safe limit” across 58 per cent of the Earth’s surface, according to the most comprehensive analysis of global data to date.

The international study, published today in the journal Science, suggests that the degree of lost biodiversity across more than half the world’s surface is substantial enough to question the ability of many ecosystems to support human societies.

Key points

Planet’s “safe limits” exceeded if less than 90 per cent abundance of original species or 80 per cent of those species is retained Analysis found average local abundance of species across the world was 84.6 per cent Other experts say study is a warning but more work needed to clarify

more…

Yes, we are doing a damn fine job there, soon we’ll be on the slide to mass extinction. Can’t wait.


You’re too late, it already happened. First the megafaunal extinction. Then the ice ages. Then agriculture. Then the massive insecticide sprayings and wetland destruction for malaria control in 1905 to 1942. Then the Chinese “war on the four pests” 1966 to 1976.

Each mass extinction was smaller than the previous one.

However if bees went extinct it’s at tiny extinction event in number of species but massive ramifications for us humans

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Date: 18/07/2016 12:09:24
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 926251
Subject: re: Global map reveals 'unsafe levels' of biodiversity

Cymek said:


However if bees went extinct it’s at tiny extinction event in number of species but massive ramifications for us humans

There is not a single native species anywhere in the world that relies solely on the honeybee for reproduction.

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Date: 18/07/2016 12:11:39
From: Cymek
ID: 926253
Subject: re: Global map reveals 'unsafe levels' of biodiversity

mollwollfumble said:


Cymek said:

However if bees went extinct it’s at tiny extinction event in number of species but massive ramifications for us humans

There is not a single native species anywhere in the world that relies solely on the honeybee for reproduction.

If bees went extinct would a large number of crops no longer gets fertilised and stop fruiting

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Date: 18/07/2016 15:57:54
From: PermeateFree
ID: 926499
Subject: re: Global map reveals 'unsafe levels' of biodiversity

mollwollfumble said:


PermeateFree said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

Global map reveals ‘unsafe levels’ of biodiversity across 58pc of Earth’s surface

Biodiversity has dropped below the “safe limit” across 58 per cent of the Earth’s surface, according to the most comprehensive analysis of global data to date.

The international study, published today in the journal Science, suggests that the degree of lost biodiversity across more than half the world’s surface is substantial enough to question the ability of many ecosystems to support human societies.

Key points

Planet’s “safe limits” exceeded if less than 90 per cent abundance of original species or 80 per cent of those species is retained Analysis found average local abundance of species across the world was 84.6 per cent Other experts say study is a warning but more work needed to clarify

more…

Yes, we are doing a damn fine job there, soon we’ll be on the slide to mass extinction. Can’t wait.


You’re too late, it already happened. First the megafaunal extinction. Then the ice ages. Then agriculture. Then the massive insecticide sprayings and wetland destruction for malaria control in 1905 to 1942. Then the Chinese “war on the four pests” 1966 to 1976.

Each mass extinction was smaller than the previous one.

The losses above were not mass extinction events although some species did go extinct. Mass extinction is a global event with extinctions in their millions, not localised occurrences, although they are bad enough. With global warming, most habitats will be affected and their biodiversity placed under considerable stress and many will simply disappear, as they are unable to adapt in the time available and/or to human modifications that restrict their movement.

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Date: 18/07/2016 19:25:44
From: Teleost
ID: 926635
Subject: re: Global map reveals 'unsafe levels' of biodiversity

Cymek said:


mollwollfumble said:

Cymek said:

However if bees went extinct it’s at tiny extinction event in number of species but massive ramifications for us humans

There is not a single native species anywhere in the world that relies solely on the honeybee for reproduction.

If bees went extinct would a large number of crops no longer gets fertilised and stop fruiting

No.

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Date: 18/07/2016 19:31:17
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 926643
Subject: re: Global map reveals 'unsafe levels' of biodiversity

Teleost said:


Cymek said:

mollwollfumble said:

There is not a single native species anywhere in the world that relies solely on the honeybee for reproduction.

If bees went extinct would a large number of crops no longer gets fertilised and stop fruiting

No.

there are still bats, birds, small marsupials, insects, etc, wind and rain

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Date: 18/07/2016 19:34:15
From: AwesomeO
ID: 926645
Subject: re: Global map reveals 'unsafe levels' of biodiversity

There is a fig that relies entirely on a particular wasp and the wasp in turn relies on the fig to complete its lifecycle.

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Date: 18/07/2016 19:47:17
From: PermeateFree
ID: 926657
Subject: re: Global map reveals 'unsafe levels' of biodiversity

AwesomeO said:


There is a fig that relies entirely on a particular wasp and the wasp in turn relies on the fig to complete its lifecycle.

Symbiotic relationships are extremely common, however in most cases there are other animals that will also do the same job, so if one pollinator disappeared the plant would still get pollinated. With the fig above, I think that situation only applies to one species/variety, therefore most figs would be unaffected, although that specific one would very likely go extinct unless, in an unlikely event, that something else stepped in to replace it.

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