Date: 27/07/2016 14:45:55
From: dv
ID: 931013
Subject: Dolly clones well at 9

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-07-27/healthy-clones-dolly-the-sheep’s-heirs-reach-ripe-old-age/7663564

Four genetically identical copies of Dolly the famous cloned sheep, which suffered ill health and died prematurely in 2003, are going strong at the advanced age of nine, a study says.

Debbie, Denise, Dianna and Daisy — identical sisters of Dolly, though born 11 years later — were “in pretty good health”, according to researchers who studied whether cloned animals can live long, healthy lives.

The quadruplets were made from the same mammary gland cell line that yielded Dolly — the first mammal cloned using a technique called somatic-cell nuclear transfer (SCNT).

Born 20 years ago on July 5, 1996, Dolly developed crippling knee arthritis aged five and died of lung disease at the age of six — about half the life expectancy of her breed of Finn-Dorset sheep.

The data, said the team, was “compelling, indicating no detrimental long-term adverse effects of SCNT on the health of aged adult offspring”.

Reply Quote

Date: 27/07/2016 14:48:35
From: Divine Angel
ID: 931014
Subject: re: Dolly clones well at 9

I read this earlier. I understand Debbie has some evidence of arthritis but certainly not to Dolly’s point.

I wonder if their “personalities” are similar to Dolly, each other or the original sheep.

Reply Quote

Date: 27/07/2016 14:50:18
From: furious
ID: 931015
Subject: re: Dolly clones well at 9

They are sheep…

Reply Quote

Date: 27/07/2016 14:52:59
From: Divine Angel
ID: 931016
Subject: re: Dolly clones well at 9

I’m sure any Kiwi will tell you each one has their own personality. After all, inanimate sex dolls have a unique personality according to uh, enthusiasts.

Reply Quote

Date: 27/07/2016 14:53:10
From: dv
ID: 931017
Subject: re: Dolly clones well at 9

I didn’t post the headline which described them as “twins” despite the fact that there are four of them…

Reply Quote

Date: 27/07/2016 14:56:44
From: dv
ID: 931021
Subject: re: Dolly clones well at 9

Divine Angel said:


I’m sure any Kiwi will tell you each one has their own personality. After all, inanimate sex dolls have a unique personality according to uh, enthusiasts.

Why are you turning this thread into a cathedral of filth?

Reply Quote

Date: 27/07/2016 14:58:23
From: diddly-squat
ID: 931022
Subject: re: Dolly clones well at 9

dv said:


Divine Angel said:

I’m sure any Kiwi will tell you each one has their own personality. After all, inanimate sex dolls have a unique personality according to uh, enthusiasts.

Why are you turning this thread into a cathedral of filth?

The shear nerve…

Reply Quote

Date: 27/07/2016 14:58:43
From: Divine Angel
ID: 931023
Subject: re: Dolly clones well at 9

Soz, I’ll stick to the topic.

Reply Quote

Date: 27/07/2016 15:00:52
From: dv
ID: 931025
Subject: re: Dolly clones well at 9

Divine Angel said:


Soz, I’ll stick to the topic.

or at least keep it PG

Reply Quote

Date: 27/07/2016 15:48:22
From: SCIENCE
ID: 931049
Subject: re: Dolly clones well at 9

it did all seem a bit crooked

Reply Quote

Date: 27/07/2016 15:53:37
From: dv
ID: 931053
Subject: re: Dolly clones well at 9

Telomere a story and then I’ll go to bed.

Reply Quote

Date: 27/07/2016 15:55:47
From: Cymek
ID: 931055
Subject: re: Dolly clones well at 9

dv said:


Telomere a story and then I’ll go to bed.

Don’t silent k Now Any

Reply Quote

Date: 27/07/2016 15:57:13
From: dv
ID: 931057
Subject: re: Dolly clones well at 9

Cymek said:


dv said:

Telomere a story and then I’ll go to bed.

Don’t silent k Now Any

idgi

Reply Quote

Date: 27/07/2016 16:10:04
From: Cymek
ID: 931061
Subject: re: Dolly clones well at 9

dv said:


Cymek said:

dv said:

Telomere a story and then I’ll go to bed.

Don’t silent k Now Any

idgi

DNA, it doesn’t quite work with the words I used, hence the silent K

Reply Quote

Date: 27/07/2016 16:11:02
From: dv
ID: 931063
Subject: re: Dolly clones well at 9

Cymek said:


dv said:

Cymek said:

Don’t silent k Now Any

idgi

DNA, it doesn’t quite work with the words I used, hence the silent K

you’re better than this

Reply Quote

Date: 27/07/2016 16:11:53
From: stumpy_seahorse
ID: 931064
Subject: re: Dolly clones well at 9

Cymek said:


dv said:

Cymek said:

Don’t silent k Now Any

idgi

DNA, it doesn’t quite work with the words I used, hence the silent K

LTJTB

Reply Quote

Date: 27/07/2016 16:15:03
From: Cymek
ID: 931065
Subject: re: Dolly clones well at 9

dv said:


Cymek said:

dv said:

idgi

DNA, it doesn’t quite work with the words I used, hence the silent K

you’re better than this

Yeah I admit it was a crap joke

Reply Quote

Date: 27/07/2016 16:16:07
From: stumpy_seahorse
ID: 931066
Subject: re: Dolly clones well at 9

Cymek said:


dv said:

Cymek said:

DNA, it doesn’t quite work with the words I used, hence the silent K

you’re better than this

Yeah I admit it was a crap joke

is this stool taken?

Reply Quote

Date: 27/07/2016 16:16:15
From: furious
ID: 931067
Subject: re: Dolly clones well at 9

You would have been better off not explaining it…

Reply Quote

Date: 27/07/2016 16:17:57
From: furious
ID: 931070
Subject: re: Dolly clones well at 9

No dice…

Reply Quote

Date: 27/07/2016 16:18:38
From: dv
ID: 931073
Subject: re: Dolly clones well at 9

furious said:

  • Yeah I admit it was a crap joke

You would have been better off not explaining it…

or not making it

Reply Quote

Date: 27/07/2016 16:19:20
From: stumpy_seahorse
ID: 931075
Subject: re: Dolly clones well at 9

furious said:

  • is this stool taken?

No dice…

hey, it was a crap joke…

Reply Quote

Date: 27/07/2016 21:40:50
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 931329
Subject: re: Dolly clones well at 9

dv said:


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-07-27/healthy-clones-dolly-the-sheep’s-heirs-reach-ripe-old-age/7663564

Four genetically identical copies of Dolly the famous cloned sheep, which suffered ill health and died prematurely in 2003, are going strong at the advanced age of nine, a study says.

Debbie, Denise, Dianna and Daisy — identical sisters of Dolly, though born 11 years later — were “in pretty good health”, according to researchers who studied whether cloned animals can live long, healthy lives.

The quadruplets were made from the same mammary gland cell line that yielded Dolly — the first mammal cloned using a technique called somatic-cell nuclear transfer (SCNT).

Born 20 years ago on July 5, 1996, Dolly developed crippling knee arthritis aged five and died of lung disease at the age of six — about half the life expectancy of her breed of Finn-Dorset sheep.

The data, said the team, was “compelling, indicating no detrimental long-term adverse effects of SCNT on the health of aged adult offspring”.


Excellent work. But cloned “sisters” not cloned “daughters”, that’s a pity. Last I heard we didn’t know whether Dolly was grown from a stem cell or not. On the other hand, really nice that a viable cell line can be held in stasis for 11 years.

Divine Angel said:


I read this earlier. I understand Debbie has some evidence of arthritis but certainly not to Dolly’s point.

I wonder if their “personalities” are similar to Dolly, each other or the original sheep.


Good question. For donkey-racing purposes some donkeys were cloned from a famous racer. But the clones weren’t good racers, they didn’t have the same personality.

By the way the famous cat clone CC, which stands for “carbon copy” not “copy cat”, does not look at all like her mother, because of epigenetic effects. Wikipedia has it wrong on both counts.

Reply Quote

Date: 31/07/2016 10:52:18
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 933011
Subject: re: Dolly clones well at 9

> By the way the famous cat clone CC, which stands for “carbon copy” not “copy cat”, does not look at all like her mother, because of epigenetic effects. Wikipedia has it wrong on both counts.

Wikipedia had been corrected, before I said that.

Reply Quote