Asperger syndrome

Apologies to those I offended, after 6 years of Asperger stuff spread over 4 psychiatrists, 4 doctors, 3 counselors, 2 psychologists, I’m kind of tied of people saying get a second opinion with the self diagnoses thing, at the moment I have a doctor and a psychiatrist.

Aspergers for me means

highly creative
vivid imagination
exceptional hearing
sensitive vision
poor social skills
poor eye contact
difficulty showing emotions
difficulty reading other peoples emotions
high on social justice, ethics, human rights
interest in information
clumsy at home
more clumsy in crowds
tendency to shutdown (verbal silence) in crowds
crowd avoidance
noise avoidance
bright sunlight avoidance
anger at politics, world media
rumination over wrongful incidents

Ive had it with counseling, Ive had it with psych services, they did not believe/trust my experience with cannabis, they abused my rights as a patient, forcing me to go to another ward when I refused to mix with people in the lounge room,dislike for noise, television, private person, introverted etc and lastly, stuffing up an ECT procedure, I awoke in the ECT room with no one in attendance after an ECG treatment went wrong, the electrodes slipping off my teeth and went into the inside of my cheeks creating an electrical injury which I can still feel today, the ECT being for depression, and that was around 6 years ago or so

Aspergers also means no friends, social isolation, mental illness discrimination, etc, very withdrawn from society now, no desire to watch tv, or listen to the news etc

I’m writing a poetry book, working on some ceramic pieces, I have some ideas for some contemporary paintings, and I have some ideas for experimental photography.

the following proves to me they still do not understand the differences

https://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/health/conditionsandtreatments/asperger-syndrome-and-adults

A new classification system for autism and Asperger syndrome, introduced in 2013 (in the fifth edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders), gives only one diagnosis of autism spectrum disorder. This is the result of much research that indicated there was not enough evidence to suggest that the conditions of autism and Asperger syndrome were distinct conditions, so now they all come under the single umbrella term, ASD.

burn in hell, with the others

Sympathies, Crazy. Hopefully they’ll eventually leave you alone to bloom & grow at your own pace, in your own way.

CrazyNeutrino said:

A new classification system for autism and Asperger syndrome, introduced in 2013 (in the fifth edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders), gives only one diagnosis of autism spectrum disorder. This is the result of much research that indicated there was not enough evidence to suggest that the conditions of autism and Asperger syndrome were distinct conditions, so now they all come under the single umbrella term, ASD.

burn in hell, with the others

What would you prefer? The development of the brain in infancy has a range of conditions it can develop with interdependent processes. Autism is one extreme within the reflexes of the brain areas that also develop AS, as sevantism is the other extreme.

welcome back CN

Arts said:

welcome back CN

hear hear.

Good to see you back CN.

Thank you for sharing this stuff, CN. As difficult as it might be to do so, it’s very informative to get your experience of it.

passing electrical current through the brain to “cure” people ?

lobotomies are still performed as is blood letting and other Mumbo jumbo

I personally know three people who claim to have Asperger’s. I don’t think any of them do.

For example, autism is always associated with repetitive behaviours, none of them have repetitive behaviours.

For example, autism is always diagnosable in a young child, none of them were diagnosable as a young child.

For example, autism is always associated with mental difficulties, but all three have successfully completed a university course without more than average difficulty.

For example, autism is always associated with difficulty in reading facial emotions, but none of the three do worse than average on a test reading facial emotions.

For example, autism is always associated with lack of interest in other people’s difficulties. All three have at least an average interest in other people’s difficulties.

In summary, I think most Asperger’s diagnoses are a load of bullshit.

For a book about what Asperger’s REALLY is, written from the viewpoint of someone who really has Asperger’s, read “The speed of dark” by Elizabeth Moon. I can’t read it, because on reading it I become too infuriated by how incredibly badly these people are treated by those vindictive idiots who claim to be normal.

The Dunedin longitudinal study also helps to shed more light on this. It found that young children could be classed into five personality types that last your whole life. The types are:

Inhibited – extreme difficulty fitting in socially.
Reserved – prefer to be a follower rather than a leader. Typical occupation: scientist, doctor.
Well adjusted – are happy to either follow or lead. Ideal team player.
Confident – tend towards thrill-seeking. Typical occupation: entrepreneur.
Uncontrolled – tendency towards violence.

Inhibited and uncontrolled are the rarest personality types. Well adjusted is the most common. What I’ve noticed is that people with the fully-functional “Reserved” personality type get wrongly diagnosed with Aspergers. The Dunedin study showed that both inhibited and uncontrolled personalities are the most set in their ways, can’t change their views.

I’ve proposed an opposite syndrome to Asperger’s, which I see as becoming increasingly and worryingly prevalent. I call it Regrepsa, and think of it as “social butterfly syndrome”. The worldwide decrease in the reading of books, particularly non-fiction books, is a sign that Regrepsa is on the increase. People with Regrepsa communicate only by spoken language and short text messages. People with Regrepsa follow every fad, are interested only in appearance never in substance, act dominantly on whim, don’t plan for the future, immediately spend all the money they earn, max out credit cards.

mollwollfumble said:

I personally know three people who claim to have Asperger’s. I don’t think any of them do.

For example, autism is always associated with repetitive behaviours, none of them have repetitive behaviours.

For example, autism is always diagnosable in a young child, none of them were diagnosable as a young child.

For example, autism is always associated with mental difficulties, but all three have successfully completed a university course without more than average difficulty.

For example, autism is always associated with difficulty in reading facial emotions, but none of the three do worse than average on a test reading facial emotions.

For example, autism is always associated with lack of interest in other people’s difficulties. All three have at least an average interest in other people’s difficulties.

In summary, I think most Asperger’s diagnoses are a load of bullshit.

For a book about what Asperger’s REALLY is, written from the viewpoint of someone who really has Asperger’s, read “The speed of dark” by Elizabeth Moon. I can’t read it, because on reading it I become too infuriated by how incredibly badly these people are treated by those vindictive idiots who claim to be normal.

The Dunedin longitudinal study also helps to shed more light on this. It found that young children could be classed into five personality types that last your whole life. The types are:

Inhibited – extreme difficulty fitting in socially.
Reserved – prefer to be a follower rather than a leader. Typical occupation: scientist, doctor.
Well adjusted – are happy to either follow or lead. Ideal team player.
Confident – tend towards thrill-seeking. Typical occupation: entrepreneur.
Uncontrolled – tendency towards violence.

Inhibited and uncontrolled are the rarest personality types. Well adjusted is the most common. What I’ve noticed is that people with the fully-functional “Reserved” personality type get wrongly diagnosed with Aspergers. The Dunedin study showed that both inhibited and uncontrolled personalities are the most set in their ways, can’t change their views.

I’ve proposed an opposite syndrome to Asperger’s, which I see as becoming increasingly and worryingly prevalent. I call it Regrepsa, and think of it as “social butterfly syndrome”. The worldwide decrease in the reading of books, particularly non-fiction books, is a sign that Regrepsa is on the increase. People with Regrepsa communicate only by spoken language and short text messages. People with Regrepsa follow every fad, are interested only in appearance never in substance, act dominantly on whim, don’t plan for the future, immediately spend all the money they earn, max out credit cards.

in other words the perfect citizen

always be In debt

never question anything beyond superficial matters

such as it ever was

Another sign of Regrepsa is “can’t stand silence”.

CrazyNeutrino said:

highly creative
vivid imagination
exceptional hearing
sensitive vision
poor social skills
poor eye contact
difficulty showing emotions
difficulty reading other peoples emotions
high on social justice, ethics, human rights
interest in information
clumsy at home
more clumsy in crowds
tendency to shutdown (verbal silence) in crowds
crowd avoidance
noise avoidance
bright sunlight avoidance
anger at politics, world media
rumination over wrongful incidents

Every one of those also applies to me.
Except that my creativity is near-average, and my hearing is only slightly better than average.
They’re not signs of Asperger’s.

“Difficulty showing emotions” tends to be a sign of childhood abuse, in my case it was how I managed to outwit school bullies and avoid fights at home. It also works in outwitting bullies in adult life. This difficulty can be overcome, all I needed was practice in hitting things. Something soft like a pillow works well. Remember “Stress is caused by repressing the body’s natural desire to choke the living shit out of some asshole that desperately deserves it”.

“Difficulty reading other peoples emotions”. I’d lay good odds that you don’t have this problem. All my life I thought I did, until I did a test at age 55. The test was to identify emotions by looking at photographs of people’s faces. I found I could correctly identify dozens of emotions I never even knew existed.

“Clumsy at home and in crowds”. Everyone has that.

“Poor eye contact, crowd avoidance, noise avoidance”. That’s just a sign of sensitivity. I’m amazed at how some people can put up with emotional, verbal and music noise levels that have me reaching for headphones and eye masks. Must be they’ve gone through desensitization training.

Most of the others on the list are just signs of intelligence.

>>Apologies to those I offended, after 6 years of Asperger stuff spread over 4 psychiatrists, 4 doctors, 3 counselors, 2 psychologists, I’m kind of tied of people saying get a second opinion with the self diagnoses thing, at the moment I have a doctor and a psychiatrist.

so 13 professionals told you different, but you’re going with the self diagnosis?

“Difficulty reading other peoples emotions”. I’d lay good odds that you don’t have this problem. All my life I thought I did, until I did a test at age 55. The test was to identify emotions by looking at photographs of people’s faces. I found I could correctly identify dozens of emotions I never even knew existed.

I need to clarify this. By “dozens of” I mean “at least a dozen”. These photographs were genuine emotions. Photographs of people faking emotions scream “fake” to me as loudly as trying to pass a child’s scribble off as a genuine Picasso.

mollwollfumble said:

“Difficulty reading other peoples emotions”. I’d lay good odds that you don’t have this problem. All my life I thought I did, until I did a test at age 55. The test was to identify emotions by looking at photographs of people’s faces. I found I could correctly identify dozens of emotions I never even knew existed.

I need to clarify this. By “dozens of” I mean “at least a dozen”. These photographs were genuine emotions. Photographs of people faking emotions scream “fake” to me as loudly as trying to pass a child’s scribble off as a genuine Picasso.

Didn’t know that you were also a clinical psychologist.

mollwollfumble said:

“Poor eye contact, crowd avoidance, noise avoidance”. That’s just a sign of sensitivity. I’m amazed at how some people can put up with emotional, verbal and music noise levels that have me reaching for headphones and eye masks. Must be they’ve gone through desensitization training.

I tune out. It’s a coping mechanism.

Divine Angel said:

mollwollfumble said:

“Poor eye contact, crowd avoidance, noise avoidance”. That’s just a sign of sensitivity. I’m amazed at how some people can put up with emotional, verbal and music noise levels that have me reaching for headphones and eye masks. Must be they’ve gone through desensitization training.

I tune out. It’s a coping mechanism.

I’m either always straining to make any sense of the noise or attempting to escape it all.

Busy periods at work don’t require making sense of the noise :)

Does asparagus cause aspergers?

bob(from black rock) said:

Does asparagus cause aspergers?

i saw an awning on a cage of asparagus yesterday.

This is the awning of the cage of asparagus, the cage of asparaguuuuuuuuuuuus. *swishes hair around *

Divine Angel said:

This is the awning of the cage of asparagus, the cage of asparaguuuuuuuuuuuus. *swishes hair around *

:)

sarahs mum said:

Divine Angel said:

This is the awning of the cage of asparagus, the cage of asparaguuuuuuuuuuuus. *swishes hair around *

:)

Mr buffy says “That is sick, DA”….

buffy said:

sarahs mum said:

Divine Angel said:

This is the awning of the cage of asparagus, the cage of asparaguuuuuuuuuuuus. *swishes hair around *

:)

Mr buffy says “That is sick, DA”….

It isn’t her fault..

My work here is done.

I’ve never had any problem with anything you’ve posted on the forum.
Its always interesting and can’t really remember you insulting anyone but sometimes receiving it.

In general society doesn’t seem to like or perhaps doesn’t know want to do with people who want to keep to themselves, socialise only when necessary and generally not show much or any interest in society norms or past times.
I personally aren’t upset if socially isolated as it’s what I prefer.

I’d agree Aspergers is probably over used as a blanket diagnosis for people who don’t conform to some idea of what’s normal

mollwollfumble said:

I personally know three people who claim to have Asperger’s. I don’t think any of them do.

For example, autism is always associated with repetitive behaviours…

For example, autism is always diagnosable in a young child…

For example, autism is always associated with mental difficulties…

For example, autism is always associated with difficulty in reading facial emotions…

All three have at least an average interest in other people’s difficulties…

In summary, I think most Asperger’s diagnoses are a load of bullshit.

For a book about what Asperger’s REALLY is, written from the viewpoint of someone who really has Asperger’s, read “The speed of dark” by Elizabeth Moon. I can’t read it, because on reading it I become too infuriated by how incredibly badly these people are treated by those vindictive idiots who claim to be normal.

No. No. No.

An diagnosis of Asperger’s is not as straight forward as you may think.

I don’t understand how if you think Asperger’s diagnoses are a load of bullshit, you would believe that Elizabeth Moon’s personal experience is some kind of Asperger’s model?

Remember, Asperger’s is a part of the ASDs. The “S” in ASD stands for spectrum.

Diagnoses do not rely on all traits being present.

Speedy said:

mollwollfumble said:

I personally know three people who claim to have Asperger’s. I don’t think any of them do.

For example, autism is always associated with repetitive behaviours…

For example, autism is always diagnosable in a young child…

For example, autism is always associated with mental difficulties…

For example, autism is always associated with difficulty in reading facial emotions…

All three have at least an average interest in other people’s difficulties…

In summary, I think most Asperger’s diagnoses are a load of bullshit.

For a book about what Asperger’s REALLY is, written from the viewpoint of someone who really has Asperger’s, read “The speed of dark” by Elizabeth Moon. I can’t read it, because on reading it I become too infuriated by how incredibly badly these people are treated by those vindictive idiots who claim to be normal.

No. No. No.

An diagnosis of Asperger’s is not as straight forward as you may think.

I don’t understand how if you think Asperger’s diagnoses are a load of bullshit, you would believe that Elizabeth Moon’s personal experience is some kind of Asperger’s model?

Remember, Asperger’s is a part of the ASDs. The “S” in ASD stands for spectrum.

Diagnoses do not rely on all traits being present.

Yes, speedy, I have a copy of DSM IV. And yes I’m aware that the definition of Asperger’s has changed between DSM IV and DSM 5.

Within DSM 5 you can find:

Restricted, repetitive patterns of behavior, interests, or activities, as manifested by at least two of the following, currently or by history (examples are illustrative, not exhaustive; see text):

1. Stereotyped or repetitive motor movements, use of objects, or speech (e.g., simple motor stereotypies, lining up toys or flipping objects, echolalia, idiosyncratic phrases).

2. Insistence on sameness, inflexible adherence to routines, or ritualized patterns or verbal nonverbal behavior (e.g., extreme distress at small changes, difficulties with transitions, rigid thinking patterns, greeting rituals, need to take same route or eat food every day).

3. Highly restricted, fixated interests that are abnormal in intensity or focus (e.g, strong attachment to or preoccupation with unusual objects, excessively circumscribed or perseverative interest).

4. Hyper- or hyporeactivity to sensory input or unusual interests in sensory aspects of the environment (e.g., apparent indifference to pain/temperature, adverse response to specific sounds or textures, excessive smelling or touching of objects, visual fascination with lights or movement).
—-
I also need to clarify that although the novel “The speed of dark” is written from the point of view of someone with Asperger’s, it is not in even the remotest sense autobiographical. Elizabeth Moon’s autobiographical experiences are all dominated by her time in the US Military.

CrazyNeutrino said:

A new classification system for autism and Asperger syndrome, introduced in 2013 (in the fifth edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders), gives only one diagnosis of autism spectrum disorder. This is the result of much research that indicated there was not enough evidence to suggest that the conditions of autism and Asperger syndrome were distinct conditions, so now they all come under the single umbrella term, ASD.

Here lies your problem, CN.

You consider yourself to have Asperger’s; a disorder of “high functioning” individuals. People with “autism”, on the other hand, are often pictured to be non-verbal and severely disabled. A label is very difficult to live the rest of your life with.

Believe me, I know where you are coming from, as I have had this dilemma myself. Except I have had this as a parent. Making this decision for someone else to live the rest of their life with is heart-wrenching. We are not there yet, and maybe never will be. However, since my son was 3 years old, he has had all of the necessary interventions that any child with autism would have had i.e. speech, occupational and physiotherapy. He has seen many specialists over the years, including autism specialists. We currently see one of three Asperger’s specialists in Sydney. The therapy focuses more on our parenting of him. They say one-on-one sessions (i.e. normal psychological consultations) do not work. They don’t work for any young person with Asperger’s, but I’m not sure what happens once they are adults.

I’m sorry that you feel that you have had unsatisfactory treatment by your specialists, but this is no excuse to stop seeking help. It is out there (whether you are diagnosed or not), but you must find it. I don’t know where you are, but one specialist told me to contact Tony Attwood in Brisbane. He is an Asperger’s guru who can point you in the right direction.

Thanks moll.

I agree that your friends probably don’t have Asperger’s. I also know people who suspect they have it, as it is easy, once given a list of traits, to self-diagnose. It was just the way you listed each trait as being necessary for a diagnosis.

Keep in mind that sometimes people who are diagnosed can appear to function very well. You may not see how difficult it is to hold it all together and what happens when they get home.

Everyone with a DSM IV/V is now a psychiatrist eh

poikilotherm said:

Everyone with a DSM IV/V is now a psychiatrist eh

puffs pipe

Tell us about your mother…

you’re not taking this seriously witty

Witty Rejoinder said:

poikilotherm said:

Everyone with a DSM IV/V is now a psychiatrist eh

puffs pipe

Tell us about your mother…

she said she didn’t wean me and that I rejected her.

the DSM’s like where one’d go with a diagnosis fetish

Witty Rejoinder said:

poikilotherm said:

Everyone with a DSM IV/V is now a psychiatrist eh

puffs pipe

Tell us about your mother…

I can tell you some stories about poik’s mother…

transition said:

the DSM’s like where one’d go with a diagnosis fetish

Nah, Merck Manual. It does the whole body.

I think a bit of history is appropriate here. Only a bit because I don’t know much.

Autism came into the public arena, perhaps the medical arena as well, through misdiagnosis of deafness. Some diagnoses of deafness in children turned out to have no physical cause. Some doctor realised that the these children didn’t react to sound not because they were deaf but because they didn’t want to react to sound, they were hyposensitive to sound. And this became tied in with lack of sensitivity to the other senses – pain, sight, smell, touch, taste. Medical recognition that autism even exists came remarkably recently, the first scientific paper on it was in 1943.

I don’t know the origins of Asperger’s, but in a very real sense it is the exact OPPOSITE of Autism. Autism is an innate hyposensitivity to sensory data. Asperger is an innate hypersensitivity to sensory data. Asperger’s must be completely distinguished from cases like CN’s which is more appropriately a lack of desensitisation of a normal sensitivity to sensory data. A person with real Asperger’s is swamped by, and reacts to, raw sensory data not processed sensory data. To a person with Asperger’s, sound is more important than words, colour and movement is more important than objects.

IMHO, to rename Asperger’s as “autism spectrum” is missing the point entirely. I don’t know if there are cases exhibiting both hyposensitivity and hypersensitivity simultaneously, but if there aren’t then there is no “spectrum” at all.

The opposite end of the Autism spectrum includes “Rett syndrome”. Wikipedia says this about Rett syndrome:

“Rett syndrome (RTT), originally termed cerebroatrophic hyperammonemia, is a genetic postnatal neurological disorder of the grey matter of the brain. The clinical features include small hands and feet and a deceleration of the rate of head growth (including microcephaly in some). Repetitive stereotyped hand movements, such as wringing and/or repeatedly putting hands into the mouth, are also noted. People with Rett syndrome are prone to gastrointestinal disorders and up to 80% have seizures. They typically have no verbal skills, and about 50% of affected individuals do not walk. Scoliosis, growth failure, and constipation are very common and can be problematic. The signs of Rett syndrome are easily confused with autism.”

Also at the opposite end of the Autism spectrum is “Childhood disintegrative disorder”. Wikipedia says this about childhood disintegrative disorder:

“The childhood disintegrative disorder (CDD), also known as Heller’s syndrome and disintegrative psychosis, is a condition characterized by late onset of developmental delays—or stunning reversals—in language, social function, and motor skills. CDD has some similarity to autism, and is sometimes considered a low-functioning form of it. In May 2013, the term CDD, along with other types of autism, has been fused into a single diagnostic term called “autism spectrum disorder” under the new DSM-5 manual. Therefore, CDD is now also called “regressive autism”, being that this term can now refer to any type of autism spectrum disorder that involves regression, including CDD. The age at which this regression can occur varies, but typically after 3 years of normal development.”

Rett syndrome and CDD are not in the least like what is now being called (mis-called IMHO) “Autism spectrum disorder”, but are similar to autism in its original form.

Some ten to fifteen years ago there was a public protest by people who had been diagnosed with Asperger’s. They wanted it taken off the list of mental disorders completely. I didn’t understand at the time.

mollwollfumble said:

I think a bit of history is appropriate here. Only a bit because I don’t know much.

Autism came into the public arena, perhaps the medical arena as well, through misdiagnosis of deafness. Some diagnoses of deafness in children turned out to have no physical cause. Some doctor realised that the these children didn’t react to sound not because they were deaf but because they didn’t want to react to sound, they were hyposensitive to sound. And this became tied in with lack of sensitivity to the other senses – pain, sight, smell, touch, taste. Medical recognition that autism even exists came remarkably recently, the first scientific paper on it was in 1943.

I don’t know the origins of Asperger’s, but in a very real sense it is the exact OPPOSITE of Autism. Autism is an innate hyposensitivity to sensory data. Asperger is an innate hypersensitivity to sensory data. Asperger’s must be completely distinguished from cases like CN’s which is more appropriately a lack of desensitisation of a normal sensitivity to sensory data. A person with real Asperger’s is swamped by, and reacts to, raw sensory data not processed sensory data. To a person with Asperger’s, sound is more important than words, colour and movement is more important than objects.

IMHO, to rename Asperger’s as “autism spectrum” is missing the point entirely. I don’t know if there are cases exhibiting both hyposensitivity and hypersensitivity simultaneously, but if there aren’t then there is no “spectrum” at all.

The opposite end of the Autism spectrum includes “Rett syndrome”. Wikipedia says this about Rett syndrome:

“Rett syndrome (RTT), originally termed cerebroatrophic hyperammonemia, is a genetic postnatal neurological disorder of the grey matter of the brain. The clinical features include small hands and feet and a deceleration of the rate of head growth (including microcephaly in some). Repetitive stereotyped hand movements, such as wringing and/or repeatedly putting hands into the mouth, are also noted. People with Rett syndrome are prone to gastrointestinal disorders and up to 80% have seizures. They typically have no verbal skills, and about 50% of affected individuals do not walk. Scoliosis, growth failure, and constipation are very common and can be problematic. The signs of Rett syndrome are easily confused with autism.”

Also at the opposite end of the Autism spectrum is “Childhood disintegrative disorder”. Wikipedia says this about childhood disintegrative disorder:

“The childhood disintegrative disorder (CDD), also known as Heller’s syndrome and disintegrative psychosis, is a condition characterized by late onset of developmental delays—or stunning reversals—in language, social function, and motor skills. CDD has some similarity to autism, and is sometimes considered a low-functioning form of it. In May 2013, the term CDD, along with other types of autism, has been fused into a single diagnostic term called “autism spectrum disorder” under the new DSM-5 manual. Therefore, CDD is now also called “regressive autism”, being that this term can now refer to any type of autism spectrum disorder that involves regression, including CDD. The age at which this regression can occur varies, but typically after 3 years of normal development.”

Rett syndrome and CDD are not in the least like what is now being called (mis-called IMHO) “Autism spectrum disorder”, but are similar to autism in its original form.

Some ten to fifteen years ago there was a public protest by people who had been diagnosed with Asperger’s. They wanted it taken off the list of mental disorders completely. I didn’t understand at the time.

poikilotherm said:

Everyone with a DSM IV/V is now a psychiatrist eh

One lesson I learned from “The speed of dark” is that being a psychiatrist doesn’t stop you from being an insensitive arsehole.

welcome that age of 1.5 orders of intentionality
I thinked (1) you (.5+/-)
all be relative’n associationism rules that army
by’n with mind not why

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/hillary-clinton-opens-point-lead-trump-national-poll/story?id=41053374
91% of Sanders supporters are indicating they will voter for Clinton in the general election, up from 78% before the convention.

Pardon me, I placed that in the wrong thread.

dv said:

Pardon me, I placed that in the wrong thread.

Classic Asperger’s :P

CN, have you heard of Temple Grandin?

https://www.ted.com/talks/temple_grandin_the_world_needs_all_kinds_of_minds?language=en

There was a movie made about her.

Speedy said:

CN, have you heard of Temple Grandin?

https://www.ted.com/talks/temple_grandin_the_world_needs_all_kinds_of_minds?language=en

There was a movie made about her.

No I haven’t her of her

I will bookmark it , thanks