Date: 3/08/2016 17:29:27
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 935066
Subject: Sinkholes

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-08-03/sinkhole-mine-expert-fears-ipswich-hole-will-grow/7683902

little drone diggers fitted with sensors the size of cats attached to cables could go down a bit further under the sinkhole to get better underground topology readings

Council surveyors could have new jobs surveying underground topology with sonar radar and other technology looking for trouble spots

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Date: 3/08/2016 17:38:14
From: Divine Angel
ID: 935070
Subject: re: Sinkholes

Yeah apparently it was caused by a subterranean creek or river.

*runs away *

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Date: 3/08/2016 17:42:53
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 935072
Subject: re: Sinkholes

Divine Angel said:


Yeah apparently it was caused by a subterranean creek or river.

*runs away *

that reminds me of ghost busters

Ghostbuster Theme

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Date: 3/08/2016 20:42:16
From: diddly-squat
ID: 935186
Subject: re: Sinkholes

Divine Angel said:


Yeah apparently it was caused by a subterranean creek or river.

*runs away *

don’t get me started…

actually it appears as though it was the result of a cap on a shaft breaking away and sinking into what was obviously a flooded void…

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Date: 3/08/2016 20:53:57
From: Bubblecar
ID: 935187
Subject: re: Sinkholes

It’s always wise to avoid a void.

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Date: 3/08/2016 21:25:56
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 935213
Subject: re: Sinkholes

CrazyNeutrino said:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-08-03/sinkhole-mine-expert-fears-ipswich-hole-will-grow/7683902

little drone diggers fitted with sensors the size of cats attached to cables could go down a bit further under the sinkhole to get better underground topology readings

Council surveyors could have new jobs surveying underground topology with sonar radar and other technology looking for trouble spots.

Many years ago I suggested that a remote control snake would be the best device to get through holes in caves too small for humans to get through. Independently of my suggestion that was followed up and I now frequently see on TV someone putting long optic fibre sensor-cables through small holes underground to get a good look at what is there.

I still hold to the view that you can get a full 3_D topology in places like caves with a single camera. In it’s simplest form just use two images from the camera to build up a stereoscopic view, in more accurate form every frame of the movie is used together.

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Date: 4/08/2016 11:12:31
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 935442
Subject: re: Sinkholes

When you weren’t expecting to get a pool, and have to let it sink in.

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Date: 4/08/2016 11:16:12
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 935446
Subject: re: Sinkholes

CrazyNeutrino said:


When you weren’t expecting to get a pool, and have to let it sink in.

can somebody save the clothesline

why wont people think of the clotheslines

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Date: 4/08/2016 11:23:19
From: bob(from black rock)
ID: 935447
Subject: re: Sinkholes

CrazyNeutrino said:


CrazyNeutrino said:

When you weren’t expecting to get a pool, and have to let it sink in.

can somebody save the clothesline

why wont people think of the clotheslines

Nudists?

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Date: 4/08/2016 11:28:05
From: sarahs mum
ID: 935448
Subject: re: Sinkholes

bob(from black rock) said:


CrazyNeutrino said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

When you weren’t expecting to get a pool, and have to let it sink in.

can somebody save the clothesline

why wont people think of the clotheslines

Nudists?

recent photos show they have saved the four concrete storks and the witches hat.

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Date: 4/08/2016 11:29:33
From: bob(from black rock)
ID: 935450
Subject: re: Sinkholes

sarahs mum said:


bob(from black rock) said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

can somebody save the clothesline

why wont people think of the clotheslines

Nudists?

recent photos show they have saved the four concrete storks and the witches hat.

See none of them wear clothes!
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Date: 4/08/2016 11:35:51
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 935453
Subject: re: Sinkholes

CrazyNeutrino said:


When you weren’t expecting to get a pool, and have to let it sink in.

What I fail to understand is where all the water came from. I doesn’t look as if it was filled up by a garden hose.

I’ve mentioned before that I know someone personally who has a sinkhole in their back yard. They live in the Florida panhandle.

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Date: 4/08/2016 11:38:09
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 935454
Subject: re: Sinkholes

mollwollfumble said:


CrazyNeutrino said:

When you weren’t expecting to get a pool, and have to let it sink in.

What I fail to understand is where all the water came from. I doesn’t look as if it was filled up by a garden hose.

I’ve mentioned before that I know someone personally who has a sinkhole in their back yard. They live in the Florida panhandle.

Underground river?

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Date: 4/08/2016 11:38:37
From: Divine Angel
ID: 935455
Subject: re: Sinkholes

diddly-squat said:


Divine Angel said:

Yeah apparently it was caused by a subterranean creek or river.

*runs away *

don’t get me started…

actually it appears as though it was the result of a cap on a shaft breaking away and sinking into what was obviously a flooded void…

A professor dude from UQ was on the radio this morning was saying the sinkhole was caused by a capped exploration hole and water had rotted away the wooden posts propping it up… or something.

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Date: 4/08/2016 11:38:50
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 935456
Subject: re: Sinkholes

bob(from black rock) said:


sarahs mum said:

bob(from black rock) said:

Nudists?

recent photos show they have saved the four concrete storks and the witches hat.

See none of them wear clothes!

I would imagine Nudists standing next to that wet hole would have their butts clenched so hard they would need new sphincters

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Date: 4/08/2016 11:41:46
From: Cymek
ID: 935459
Subject: re: Sinkholes

mollwollfumble said:


CrazyNeutrino said:

When you weren’t expecting to get a pool, and have to let it sink in.

What I fail to understand is where all the water came from. I doesn’t look as if it was filled up by a garden hose.

I’ve mentioned before that I know someone personally who has a sinkhole in their back yard. They live in the Florida panhandle.

I reckon over time you could create a sinkhole in your backyard, turn your hoses up full and use the water pressure to bury them into the ground as long as the length of the hose and just leave them

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Date: 4/08/2016 11:48:35
From: bob(from black rock)
ID: 935466
Subject: re: Sinkholes

Cymek said:


mollwollfumble said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

When you weren’t expecting to get a pool, and have to let it sink in.

What I fail to understand is where all the water came from. I doesn’t look as if it was filled up by a garden hose.

I’ve mentioned before that I know someone personally who has a sinkhole in their back yard. They live in the Florida panhandle.

I reckon over time you could create a sinkhole in your backyard, turn your hoses up full and use the water pressure to bury them into the ground as long as the length of the hose and just leave them

I tried this as a kid, trouble is the hose doesn’t follow a straight line down, goes in all directions.

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Date: 4/08/2016 11:50:08
From: diddly-squat
ID: 935467
Subject: re: Sinkholes

mollwollfumble said:


CrazyNeutrino said:

When you weren’t expecting to get a pool, and have to let it sink in.

What I fail to understand is where all the water came from. I doesn’t look as if it was filled up by a garden hose.

I’ve mentioned before that I know someone personally who has a sinkhole in their back yard. They live in the Florida panhandle.

it was a flooded shaft with a cap on top… probably held in place by a series of old railway sleepers… the sleepers rot and fail, the cap sinks into the flooded void and what you get the is washing machine effect you see in the video that was linked to in the news articles…

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Date: 4/08/2016 11:52:34
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 935469
Subject: re: Sinkholes

The neighbors would be thinking about the underground topology around that sinkhole.

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Date: 4/08/2016 11:54:27
From: diddly-squat
ID: 935470
Subject: re: Sinkholes

CrazyNeutrino said:

The neighbors would be thinking about the underground topology around that sinkhole.

what is this underground topology you speak of… it’s most likely that is was a vertical shaft, so the effects will be very localised.

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Date: 4/08/2016 11:55:03
From: dv
ID: 935472
Subject: re: Sinkholes

If only there was some way of imaging the subsurface.

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Date: 4/08/2016 11:56:11
From: Divine Angel
ID: 935473
Subject: re: Sinkholes

The mayor of Ipswich was saying this morning that he got a message from someone in the US thanking him for his compassion and will he run against Trump. (The mayor has paid for a hotel room for the residents until the hole can be fixed)

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Date: 4/08/2016 11:57:24
From: diddly-squat
ID: 935474
Subject: re: Sinkholes

dv said:


If only there was some way of imaging the subsurface.

black magics… all of it…

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Date: 4/08/2016 12:04:39
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 935476
Subject: re: Sinkholes

diddly-squat said:


dv said:

If only there was some way of imaging the subsurface.

black magics… all of it…

We need technology to image the subsurface.

councils could look for covered old mine shafts, check along water mains for leaks that could cause sinkholes, look for trouble spots

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Date: 4/08/2016 12:33:30
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 935503
Subject: re: Sinkholes

> Neighbours

Yes, if I was a neighbour I would be very very nervous.

dv said:


If only there was some way of imaging the subsurface.

The CSIRO people I worked with developed a self-propelled robot with camera that could roll underwater up and down pipelines imaging the subsurface. Actually two different teams of CSIRO people I worked with. One built the self-propelled underwater robot and the other wrote the visual processing software.

That robot was intended to work in a pipeline, though. It trundled along on wheels. Wheels wouldn’t be a great propulsion method in sinkholes.

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Date: 4/08/2016 12:42:20
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 935513
Subject: re: Sinkholes

mollwollfumble said:


> Neighbours

Yes, if I was a neighbour I would be very very nervous.

dv said:


If only there was some way of imaging the subsurface.

The CSIRO people I worked with developed a self-propelled robot with camera that could roll underwater up and down pipelines imaging the subsurface. Actually two different teams of CSIRO people I worked with. One built the self-propelled underwater robot and the other wrote the visual processing software.

That robot was intended to work in a pipeline, though. It trundled along on wheels. Wheels wouldn’t be a great propulsion method in sinkholes.

A sinkhole robot design like a mini submarine

perhaps a robot design with a drill head at one end, sensors in the middle and a propeller at the other end with the retrieving cable attached to the center of the propeller

cable kept clear of propellers using an extended shaft attached to the center of the propeller

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Date: 4/08/2016 12:45:41
From: poikilotherm
ID: 935515
Subject: re: Sinkholes

CrazyNeutrino said:


mollwollfumble said:

> Neighbours

Yes, if I was a neighbour I would be very very nervous.

dv said:


If only there was some way of imaging the subsurface.

The CSIRO people I worked with developed a self-propelled robot with camera that could roll underwater up and down pipelines imaging the subsurface. Actually two different teams of CSIRO people I worked with. One built the self-propelled underwater robot and the other wrote the visual processing software.

That robot was intended to work in a pipeline, though. It trundled along on wheels. Wheels wouldn’t be a great propulsion method in sinkholes.

A sinkhole robot design like a mini submarine

perhaps a robot design with a drill head at one end, sensors in the middle and a propeller at the other end with the retrieving cable attached to the center of the propeller

cable kept clear of propellers using an extended shaft attached to the center of the propeller

It’s good to see sarcasm translates so well into text.

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Date: 4/08/2016 12:48:00
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 935517
Subject: re: Sinkholes

poikilotherm said:


CrazyNeutrino said:

mollwollfumble said:

> Neighbours

Yes, if I was a neighbour I would be very very nervous.

The CSIRO people I worked with developed a self-propelled robot with camera that could roll underwater up and down pipelines imaging the subsurface. Actually two different teams of CSIRO people I worked with. One built the self-propelled underwater robot and the other wrote the visual processing software.

That robot was intended to work in a pipeline, though. It trundled along on wheels. Wheels wouldn’t be a great propulsion method in sinkholes.

A sinkhole robot design like a mini submarine

perhaps a robot design with a drill head at one end, sensors in the middle and a propeller at the other end with the retrieving cable attached to the center of the propeller

cable kept clear of propellers using an extended shaft attached to the center of the propeller

It’s good to see sarcasm translates so well into text.

I don’t like guessing underground topology that been altered by nature or by mankind

be good to get something down there to have a look around etc

just being cautious

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Date: 4/08/2016 12:50:10
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 935518
Subject: re: Sinkholes

It’s good to see sarcasm translates so well into text.

should be compulsory to use comic sans.

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