there will come a time when you won’t be able to imagine life without passwords

you’ll have a MyGov account, the only way you’ll not have a MyGov account is to make the account details public, and the account unusable (no longer your account). It’s the opposite of the purpose of a password.

So, where’s an individual that refuses to have passwords, and encryption. Minimizing it.

Can you be forced to have a password, or/and keep it private.

transition said:

there will come a time when you won’t be able to imagine life without passwords

you’ll have a MyGov account, the only way you’ll not have a MyGov account is to make the account details public, and the account unusable (no longer your account). It’s the opposite of the purpose of a password.

So, where’s an individual that refuses to have passwords, and encryption. Minimizing it.

Can you be forced to have a password, or/and keep it private.

Keeping your password private is a condition of obtaining many services.

You can’t be forced to have a password, because you can’t be forced to use any service that requires a service.

>You can’t be forced to have a password, because you can’t be forced to use any service that requires a service

it’s a thought experiment, to consider the keyless/passwordless life.

20.1 inside and 11.4 outside. cosy.

ChrispenEvan said:

20.1 inside and 11.4 outside. cosy.

16.1 in and 8.2 out here, but the fire is starting to take

transition said:

>You can’t be forced to have a password, because you can’t be forced to use any service that requires a service

it’s a thought experiment, to consider the keyless/passwordless life.

carry cash.

in a singlet here, cold outside.

roughbarked said:

transition said:

>You can’t be forced to have a password, because you can’t be forced to use any service that requires a service

it’s a thought experiment, to consider the keyless/passwordless life.

carry cash.

some sites don’t require cash but do require a password.

ChrispenEvan said:

roughbarked said:

transition said:

>You can’t be forced to have a password, because you can’t be forced to use any service that requires a service

it’s a thought experiment, to consider the keyless/passwordless life.

carry cash.

some sites don’t require cash but do require a password.

They don’t require that you enter though.

roughbarked said:

ChrispenEvan said:

roughbarked said:

carry cash.

some sites don’t require cash but do require a password.

They don’t require that you enter though.

if you want that service then you have to abide by their rules.

ChrispenEvan said:

roughbarked said:

ChrispenEvan said:

some sites don’t require cash but do require a password.

They don’t require that you enter though.

if you want that service then you have to abide by their rules.

You may want a lot of things but first off one needs to decide whether it is necessary at this time and is it worth whatever it costs.

transition said:

>You can’t be forced to have a password, because you can’t be forced to use any service that requires a service

it’s a thought experiment, to consider the keyless/passwordless life.

I see that, but that’s basically the answer to the thought experiment.

stumpy_seahorse said:

ChrispenEvan said:

20.1 inside and 11.4 outside. cosy.

16.1 in and 8.2 out here, but the fire is starting to take

18.9 or 11.3 flaccid

transition said:

you’ll have a MyGov account

I keep seeing this as a MacGyver account.

kii said:

transition said:

you’ll have a MyGov account

I keep seeing this as a MacGyver account.

Pronounced, MacGivver

You don’t actually need to have a MyGov account

dv said:

You don’t actually need to have a MyGov account

How about a MacGyver account?

kii said:

dv said:

You don’t actually need to have a MyGov account

How about a MacGyver account?

i have a piece of string, some blu tack and a safety pin i could make into one.

ChrispenEvan said:

kii said:

dv said:

You don’t actually need to have a MyGov account

How about a MacGyver account?

i have a piece of string, some blu tack and a safety pin i could make into one.

That’s a 10.

my gov account

LOL

dv said:

You don’t actually need to have a MyGov account

This be true unless you are wanting access to centrelink.

don’t actually need a mygov account to access c’link. but you will soon, as they have been telling me for months.

Just because I have 130 passwords, that doesn’t mean I like passwords, I avoid them where humanly possible. I hate passwords. That’s 20 years of passwords, at an average rate of one every two months.

At CSIRO you can’t work on any computer without a password, and that password has to change every 3 months. That accounts for some of them. Then there’s etax and mygov – if you don’t use a password they fine you. Then there are passwords for citylink, dropbox, each bank account, each shares account, access to my dna data, physics forum, bird ID, two for rocketry, ebay, paypal, amazon, “working with children” police check, four for genealogy, at least eight software programs, conferences, other online shopping, microsoft, researcher ID, arXiv submission, facebook, monash uni (changes every 6 months), national library, xkcd science forum, personal computer accounts, Curiosity Rover, zooniverse, linked in, skype, CSIRO supercomputers, society of petroleum engineers, Cynics Sanctuary, credit cards for work and home, my three personal websites, swipe card, pgp, voicemail, a japanese bookshop, superannuation, interlibrary loan, chemical engineering chat room, science magazine.

and http://tokyo3.org/forums/holiday/ of course.

I challenge anyone who’s used the computer for 20 years to have fewer passwords.

For example, I flatly refuse to ge

ChrispenEvan said:

don’t actually need a mygov account to access c’link. but you will soon, as they have been telling me for months.

You are in a different state. When I was using C’link last year.. It changed in NSW.

roughbarked said:

ChrispenEvan said:

don’t actually need a mygov account to access c’link. but you will soon, as they have been telling me for months.

You are in a different state. When I was using C’link last year.. It changed in NSW.

c’link is commonwealth.

kii said:

dv said:

You don’t actually need to have a MyGov account

How about a MacGyver account?

They should remake MacGyver with women.

mollwollfumble said:

Just because I have 130 passwords, that doesn’t mean I like passwords, I avoid them where humanly possible. I hate passwords. That’s 20 years of passwords, at an average rate of one every two months.

At CSIRO you can’t work on any computer without a password, and that password has to change every 3 months. That accounts for some of them. Then there’s etax and mygov – if you don’t use a password they fine you. Then there are passwords for citylink, dropbox, each bank account, each shares account, access to my dna data, physics forum, bird ID, two for rocketry, ebay, paypal, amazon, “working with children” police check, four for genealogy, at least eight software programs, conferences, other online shopping, microsoft, researcher ID, arXiv submission, facebook, monash uni (changes every 6 months), national library, xkcd science forum, personal computer accounts, Curiosity Rover, zooniverse, linked in, skype, CSIRO supercomputers, society of petroleum engineers, Cynics Sanctuary, credit cards for work and home, my three personal websites, swipe card, pgp, voicemail, a japanese bookshop, superannuation, interlibrary loan, chemical engineering chat room, science magazine.

and http://tokyo3.org/forums/holiday/ of course.

I challenge anyone who’s used the computer for 20 years to have fewer passwords.

For example, I flatly refuse to ge

being a ciscero man you should have a numberchart that moves randomly evry few days and is automatic.. Teddy Trickett did, back in the 70’s

passwords are easy. one password for all non-important stuff. different ones for the important.

ChrispenEvan said:

roughbarked said:

ChrispenEvan said:

don’t actually need a mygov account to access c’link. but you will soon, as they have been telling me for months.

You are in a different state. When I was using C’link last year.. It changed in NSW.

c’link is commonwealth.

Well WA peeps are aliens.

dv said:

kii said:

dv said:

You don’t actually need to have a MyGov account

How about a MacGyver account?

They should remake MacGyver with women.

They have remade it. I keep seeing ads for it on the teev, during the short time it’s on a commercial station.

roughbarked said:

dv said:

You don’t actually need to have a MyGov account

This be true unless you are wanting access to centrelink.

And no one is forced to interact with centrelink

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dv said:

kii said:

dv said:

You don’t actually need to have a MyGov account

How about a MacGyver account?

They should remake MacGyver with women.

They did that but I’m having trouble recalling the name … apart from the one with Pamela Anderson in it.. They were three women at the command of one desk pushing detective….

dv said:

kii said:

dv said:

You don’t actually need to have a MyGov account

How about a MacGyver account?

They should remake MacGyver with women.

—-

Xena

i actually complimented mygov for being so easy to set-up.

I have a myGiov account, and I must say I quite like it.

Helped me track down and consolidate all of my lost superannuation accounts. I had a few from casual and contract jobs I had years ago back in the day where you opened a new account for each new job. Having moved house a couple of times I just lost all the paperwork. Did it all in a few minutes on myGov.

roughbarked said:

dv said:

kii said:

How about a MacGyver account?

They should remake MacGyver with women.

They did that but I’m having trouble recalling the name … apart from the one with Pamela Anderson in it.. They were three women at the command of one desk pushing detective….

they were right charlies.

ChrispenEvan said:

passwords are easy. one password for all non-important stuff. different ones for the important.

Passwords are easy. The memorization techniques are perhaps a little more demanding.

ChrispenEvan said:

passwords are easy. one password for all non-important stuff. different ones for the important.

I’ve tried to streamline mine to a certain subject. An old phone number.

At work it’s the “change it every whenever thing” I did a combo of the old phone number and the matching address. I kept the paper in my lanyard thingy. There’s 3 different sections of the company’s system I need to access – so I had them all the same.

I did have one that was a few swear words with ! and ? and @ in it. I had reached peak frustration level with a healthcare access portal website.

roughbarked said:

ChrispenEvan said:

passwords are easy. one password for all non-important stuff. different ones for the important.

Passwords are easy. The memorization techniques are perhaps a little more demanding.

i write them down.

dv said:

roughbarked said:

dv said:

You don’t actually need to have a MyGov account

This be true unless you are wanting access to centrelink.

And no one is forced to interact with centrelink

And you call yourself a statistics man.

I’m still locked out of MyGov account

They must like me.

CrazyNeutrino said:

I’m still locked out of MyGov account

They must like me.

Good work…another perfect 10!

ChrispenEvan said:

i actually complimented mygov for being so easy to set-up.

it was worth doing.

ChrispenEvan said:

roughbarked said:

dv said:

They should remake MacGyver with women.

They did that but I’m having trouble recalling the name … apart from the one with Pamela Anderson in it.. They were three women at the command of one desk pushing detective….

they were right charlies.

That’s them, yeah.

ChrispenEvan said:

roughbarked said:

ChrispenEvan said:

passwords are easy. one password for all non-important stuff. different ones for the important.

Passwords are easy. The memorization techniques are perhaps a little more demanding.

i write them down.

Fail safge until someone finds them. I write them down in code.. Sometimes even I have difficulty deciphering my own codes.

CrazyNeutrino said:

I’m still locked out of MyGov account

They must like me.

They simply need youb to register a new email address. The old one is bjorked until you remember the correct password. If that is beyond you, then register again with a new email address.

roughbarked said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

I’m still locked out of MyGov account

They must like me.

They simply need youb to register a new email address. The old one is bjorked until you remember the correct password. If that is beyond you, then register again with a new email address.

If you are in doubt aboput this then call the girl at the phone number and ask her to do it for you but do have a new email addy ready.

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

I’m still locked out of MyGov account

They must like me.

They simply need youb to register a new email address. The old one is bjorked until you remember the correct password. If that is beyond you, then register again with a new email address.

If you are in doubt aboput this then call the girl at the phone number and ask her to do it for you but do have a new email addy ready.

The girl?

kii said:

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

They simply need youb to register a new email address. The old one is bjorked until you remember the correct password. If that is beyond you, then register again with a new email address.

If you are in doubt aboput this then call the girl at the phone number and ask her to do it for you but do have a new email addy ready.

The girl?

Sorry dear. I do work with people who prefer to be called girls, all of them. They already know all the other names.

roughbarked said:

kii said:

roughbarked said:

If you are in doubt aboput this then call the girl at the phone number and ask her to do it for you but do have a new email addy ready.

The girl?

Sorry dear. I do work with people who prefer to be called girls, all of them. They already know all the other names.

You can be really clueless, roughbarked.

kii said:

roughbarked said:

kii said:

The girl?

Sorry dear. I do work with people who prefer to be called girls, all of them. They already know all the other names.

You can be really clueless, roughbarked.

I know. ;)

So how are homeless people without a mobile phone supposed to set up a MyGov account?

The Rev Dodgson said:

So how are homeless people without a mobile phone supposed to set up a MyGov account?

They can access it through Centrelink offices, apparently the code can be overridden by staff within the office.

dv said:

And no one is forced to interact with centrelink

Depends on if you want government money or not.

Medicare are also in the process of everything online, and people still require Medicare access especially if they have children.

don’t know whether you’d get c’link benefits if you didn’t have an address.

ChrispenEvan said:

don’t know whether you’d get c’link benefits if you didn’t have an address.

Yep, can still get benefits with no address. I put through quite a few ‘pension cards’ with NFA written on them.

poikilotherm said:

ChrispenEvan said:

don’t know whether you’d get c’link benefits if you didn’t have an address.

Yep, can still get benefits with no address. I put through quite a few ‘pension cards’ with NFA written on them.

Ta.

Divine Angel said:

dv said:

And no one is forced to interact with centrelink

Depends on if you want government money or not.

Medicare are also in the process of everything online, and people still require Medicare access especially if they have children.

No one is forced to take government money or use Medicare

Divine Angel said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

So how are homeless people without a mobile phone supposed to set up a MyGov account?

They can access it through Centrelink offices, apparently the code can be overridden by staff within the office.

For that matter three of my brothers and sisters have no mobile phone and they ain’t even homeless.

I use a password manager.
I only have to memorise one password and it does the rest.
It also generates passwords which are near impossible to crack with current tech.

The Rev Dodgson said:

So how are homeless people without a mobile phone supposed to set up a MyGov account?

By walking into a centrelink office.

ChrispenEvan said:

don’t know whether you’d get c’link benefits if you didn’t have an address.

definitely need a bank account.