Date: 17/08/2016 09:34:10
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 942093
Subject: Quantum Communication - Secure Satellites

http://www.news.com.au/technology/science/space/china-takes-major-step-in-creating-a-global-network-for-quantum-communication/news-story/b7e5ec8cdd47b353bba8be886e7d1562

A little Chinaman uses Bob and Alice to explain.

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Date: 17/08/2016 10:02:14
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 942099
Subject: re: Quantum Communication - Secure Satellites

Peak Warming Man said:


http://www.news.com.au/technology/science/space/china-takes-major-step-in-creating-a-global-network-for-quantum-communication/news-story/b7e5ec8cdd47b353bba8be886e7d1562

A little Chinaman uses Bob and Alice to explain.

> a digital communication system impervious to hackers.

But really really sensitive to “denial of service” attacks. The whole raison d’etre for quantum encryption is that eavesdropping stops the message getting to its intended target. As a result, a received message is sure to be secure. But all a hacker has to do is pretend to eavesdrop, and then nothing gets through.

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Date: 17/08/2016 10:26:09
From: Cymek
ID: 942105
Subject: re: Quantum Communication - Secure Satellites

Is quantum communication really necessary to ensure secure messages, surely we can just create a more complex encryption method than what we currently use if a time comes when computers are fast enough to use brute force attacks to hack a system. For example instead of 256 bit encryption use 512 bit.

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Date: 17/08/2016 14:42:11
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 942202
Subject: re: Quantum Communication - Secure Satellites

Cymek said:


Is quantum communication really necessary to ensure secure messages, surely we can just create a more complex encryption method than what we currently use if a time comes when computers are fast enough to use brute force attacks to hack a system. For example instead of 256 bit encryption use 512 bit.

Don’t even need to go that high tech. There’s an illustrated manuscript from the Middle ages written in a code that no computer has been able to crack. It’s 240 pages long.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voynich_manuscript

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Date: 17/08/2016 14:53:01
From: Wocky
ID: 942221
Subject: re: Quantum Communication - Secure Satellites

Cymek said:


Is quantum communication really necessary to ensure secure messages, surely we can just create a more complex encryption method than what we currently use if a time comes when computers are fast enough to use brute force attacks to hack a system. For example instead of 256 bit encryption use 512 bit.

While that’s OK for modern computers, when quantum computers become available they’ll be able to break strong (modern) encryption instantly (because they can (theoretically) examine every possible key at once.) An active field of cryptography, called PQC, Post-Quantum Cryptography, strives to build cryptosystems immune to this system (there are present cryptosystems that can withstand quantum attacks, with one-time pad cryptography a good example, but they have major disadvantages with present technology.)

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Date: 17/08/2016 14:55:18
From: Wocky
ID: 942228
Subject: re: Quantum Communication - Secure Satellites

mollwollfumble said:


Cymek said:

Is quantum communication really necessary to ensure secure messages, surely we can just create a more complex encryption method than what we currently use if a time comes when computers are fast enough to use brute force attacks to hack a system. For example instead of 256 bit encryption use 512 bit.

Don’t even need to go that high tech. There’s an illustrated manuscript from the Middle ages written in a code that no computer has been able to crack. It’s 240 pages long.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voynich_manuscript

There are (quite strong) arguments that the Voynich Manuscript is not written in any code, but is just random scribbling, with pseudo-biological pictures to make it look good. It may be an encoded message, of course, but the evidence against it is strong.

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Date: 17/08/2016 15:23:49
From: Cymek
ID: 942261
Subject: re: Quantum Communication - Secure Satellites

Reading about Quantum Computing on Wikipedia is rather involved

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Date: 17/08/2016 18:51:14
From: KJW
ID: 942435
Subject: re: Quantum Communication - Secure Satellites

Wocky said:


While that’s OK for modern computers, when quantum computers become available they’ll be able to break strong (modern) encryption instantly (because they can (theoretically) examine every possible key at once.)

While cryptography based on the factorisation of large integers into their prime factors can be readily attacked by quantum computers using Shor’s algorithm, there are other hard inverse problems for which no known quantum computer algorithm exists.

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