One of the drone models used by Russia is to be modified to be used as a kamikaze, Russian media said. Such drones can be used to suppress enemy air defenses or to provide tactical-level air support to units in the field.

“A drone which would act similar to a fire ship is being developed now. It detonates after hitting a target,” a defense source told TASS.

https://www.rt.com/news/344700-russia-develops-kamikaze-drone/

Israel armed Argentina to deadly effect during Falklands War, secret files show

https://www.rt.com/uk/356981-israeli-arms-falklands-war/

For a drone to be really useful, it has to be supersonic.

mollwollfumble said:

For a drone to be really useful, it has to be supersonic.

Well apparently in Australia we share design ideas about how to build a submarine.

face palms

monkey skipper said:

mollwollfumble said:

For a drone to be really useful, it has to be supersonic.

Well apparently in Australia we share design ideas about how to build a submarine.

face palms

That is to prove to the enemy how smart we are and how you shouldn’t mess with us.

http://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=842

How is this idea complicated enough to need developing?

mollwollfumble said:

For a drone to be really useful, it has to be supersonic.

It could then be used a kinetic penetrator
You think the next logical step would be to make drones perform acceleration and manoeuvrers humans are incapable of withstanding to make it hard for human controlled planes to shoot them down. Combine it with drones that can splinter into separate parts each capable of independent and hive thinking

Isn’t a kamikaze drone just a guided missile?

furious said:

Isn’t a kamikaze drone just a guided missile?

Pretty much I’d have thought perhaps with a bit more artificial intelligence and semiautonomous thinking

furious said:

Isn’t a kamikaze drone just a guided missile?

It’s quite like a guided missile, but much slower.

furious said:

Isn’t a kamikaze drone just a guided missile?

it can probably loiter like an aircraft , high or low in the sky

when it goes into missile mode it probably flies low and slow to the target

before it goes for the target it probably pumps out a heap of decoys if it thinks it’s been detected ( maybe mini drones )

furious said:

Isn’t a kamikaze drone just a guided missile?

it can probably loiter like an aircraft , high or low in the sky

when it goes into missile mode it probably flies low and slow to the target

before it goes for the target it probably pumps out a heap of decoys if it thinks it’s been detected ( maybe mini drones )

The Rev Dodgson said:

furious said:

Isn’t a kamikaze drone just a guided missile?

It’s quite like a guided missile, but much slower.

thought same, and so obvious hardly worth mentioning. But I suppose the drone can do sorta (be used for) local in situ recon, whereas a missile can’t hang around much for a look.

monkey skipper said:

mollwollfumble said:

For a drone to be really useful, it has to be supersonic.

Well apparently in Australia we share design ideas about how to build a submarine.

face palms

For a submarine to be really useful, it has to be nuclear powered.

mollwollfumble said:

monkey skipper said:

mollwollfumble said:

For a drone to be really useful, it has to be supersonic.

Well apparently in Australia we share design ideas about how to build a submarine.

face palms

For a submarine to be really useful, it has to be nuclear powered.

Or plastic, battery powered and entertaining your kid in the bathtub………..

mollwollfumble said:

monkey skipper said:

mollwollfumble said:

For a drone to be really useful, it has to be supersonic.

Well apparently in Australia we share design ideas about how to build a submarine.

face palms

For a submarine to be really useful, it has to be nuclear powered.

Yes otherwise it has to continually go back to dry dock to refuel which kinds of defeats the purpose of have a movable hard to track weapons platform

Cymek said:

mollwollfumble said:

monkey skipper said:

Well apparently in Australia we share design ideas about how to build a submarine.

face palms

For a submarine to be really useful, it has to be nuclear powered.

Yes otherwise it has to continually go back to dry dock to refuel which kinds of defeats the purpose of have a movable hard to track weapons platform

Anybody think these leaked plans could be bupkus?

The Greens wants out submarines to be powered by renewables, wind and solar.

Cymek said:

mollwollfumble said:

monkey skipper said:

Well apparently in Australia we share design ideas about how to build a submarine.

face palms

For a submarine to be really useful, it has to be nuclear powered.

Yes otherwise it has to continually go back to dry dock to refuel which kinds of defeats the purpose of have a movable hard to track weapons platform

The Americans run a system of two crews one at sea, one at base, on leave doing courses etc.

The new submarine purchase promises to be another fiasco, should have gone with the off the shelf Japanese one.

• The Greens wants out submarines to be powered by renewables, wind and solar.

they are missing out on the obvious opportunity to use tidal power…

furious said:

• The Greens wants out submarines to be powered by renewables, wind and solar.

they are missing out on the obvious opportunity to use tidal power…

They killed the plan for jellyfish powered subs…….

furious said:

• The Greens wants out submarines to be powered by renewables, wind and solar.

they are missing out on the obvious opportunity to use tidal power…

or air tunnel through the ear from one side to the other…..

AwesomeO said:

Cymek said:

mollwollfumble said:

For a submarine to be really useful, it has to be nuclear powered.

Yes otherwise it has to continually go back to dry dock to refuel which kinds of defeats the purpose of have a movable hard to track weapons platform

The Americans run a system of two crews one at sea, one at base, on leave doing courses etc.

The new submarine purchase promises to be another fiasco, should have gone with the off the shelf Japanese one.

Off the shelf does kind of show proof of concept it works

The important thing about subs is the weapons system, we’re getting the good yank stuff.
Although the yanks don’t play well with the French.
We’re not getting the subs for 50 years so none of it really matters.
All it means that we’ll be building subs for 50 years and creating lifetime employment for a shed load of people.
It’s all really academic right now.

Peak Warming Man said:

The important thing about subs is the weapons system, we’re getting the good yank stuff.
Although the yanks don’t play well with the French.
We’re not getting the subs for 50 years so none of it really matters.
All it means that we’ll be building subs for 50 years and creating lifetime employment for a shed load of people.
It’s all really academic right now.

Of equal important I would have thought, would to be undetectable, which usually means running quiet.

PermeateFree said:

Peak Warming Man said:

The important thing about subs is the weapons system, we’re getting the good yank stuff.
Although the yanks don’t play well with the French.
We’re not getting the subs for 50 years so none of it really matters.
All it means that we’ll be building subs for 50 years and creating lifetime employment for a shed load of people.
It’s all really academic right now.

Of equal important I would have thought, would to be undetectable, which usually means running quiet.

It’s a rich tapestry of requirements.

By the time our subs are built, everyone else’s subs will be able to travel through time and space.

Bubblecar said:

By the time our subs are built, everyone else’s subs will be able to travel through time and space.

Ours will be able to rescue boat people.

Postpocelipse said:

Bubblecar said:

By the time our subs are built, everyone else’s subs will be able to travel through time and space.

Ours will be able to rescue boat people.

Mine will leave space time altogether

CrazyNeutrino said:

Postpocelipse said:

Bubblecar said:

By the time our subs are built, everyone else’s subs will be able to travel through time and space.

Ours will be able to rescue boat people.

Mine will leave space time altogether

That hurts you know? And you can’t fit into your clothes anymore……..

Postpocelipse said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

Postpocelipse said:

Ours will be able to rescue boat people.

Mine will leave space time altogether

That hurts you know? And you can’t fit into your clothes anymore……..

How can it hurt you? Its no where near you.

and I no longer need clothes

I exist has a sphere of light that controls the multiverse ship

CrazyNeutrino said:

Postpocelipse said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

Mine will leave space time altogether

That hurts you know? And you can’t fit into your clothes anymore……..

How can it hurt you? Its no where near you.

and I no longer need clothes

I exist has a sphere of light that controls the multiverse ship

Yes but anyone sphering of light with you sees you as just an ephemeral naked you……….

Postpocelipse said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

Postpocelipse said:

That hurts you know? And you can’t fit into your clothes anymore……..

How can it hurt you? Its no where near you.

and I no longer need clothes

I exist has a sphere of light that controls the multiverse ship

Yes but anyone sphering of light with you sees you as just an ephemeral naked you……….

Oh multiverse ship. I thought you wanted to go outside of time and space. Can’t see why you’d be a ball of light in a multiverse ship.

Postpocelipse said:

Postpocelipse said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

How can it hurt you? Its no where near you.

and I no longer need clothes

I exist has a sphere of light that controls the multiverse ship

Yes but anyone sphering of light with you sees you as just an ephemeral naked you……….

Oh multiverse ship. I thought you wanted to go outside of time and space. Can’t see why you’d be a ball of light in a multiverse ship.

just an ephemeral naked you…, – No, Hard Light, not like soft light that can dissipate.

Oh multiverse ship. – Yes

I thought you wanted to go outside of time and space, Yes, my ship can travel between universes, as well as leaving space time. Its good being more flexible.

Can’t see why you’d be a ball of light in a multiverse ship. – I can change into other states of matter like hard light, so why not a sphere, its better than being a drone that blows itself up like suicide bombers.

PermeateFree said:

Peak Warming Man said:

The important thing about subs is the weapons system, we’re getting the good yank stuff.
Although the yanks don’t play well with the French.
We’re not getting the subs for 50 years so none of it really matters.
All it means that we’ll be building subs for 50 years and creating lifetime employment for a shed load of people.
It’s all really academic right now.

Of equal important I would have thought, would to be undetectable, which usually means running quiet.

The quietest subs are ones that don’t exist

You have large sheds and regular launches but unknown to everyone is that it’s the same sub being launched . The worlds super powers see a sub being launched every week and decide it’s not worth messing with Australia plus this fleet of new subs is undetectable

CrazyNeutrino said:

Postpocelipse said:

Postpocelipse said:

Yes but anyone sphering of light with you sees you as just an ephemeral naked you……….

Oh multiverse ship. I thought you wanted to go outside of time and space. Can’t see why you’d be a ball of light in a multiverse ship.

just an ephemeral naked you…, – No, Hard Light, not like soft light that can dissipate.

Oh multiverse ship. – Yes

I thought you wanted to go outside of time and space, Yes, my ship can travel between universes, as well as leaving space time. Its good being more flexible.

Can’t see why you’d be a ball of light in a multiverse ship. – I can change into other states of matter like hard light, so why not a sphere, its better than being a drone that blows itself up like suicide bombers.

you have a point. what is the ship for if you can simply travel as a transmuton?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3759455/Blast-police-checkpoint-southeast-Turkey-casualties-feared.html

You might remember me predicting turkey tanking under a ongoing war caused by Isis and everyone else they’d annoyed

The Turks are worried that the Kurds are about to shut the pipeline to Isis and have invaded Syria to “ help”

wookiemeister said:

PermeateFree said:

Peak Warming Man said:

The important thing about subs is the weapons system, we’re getting the good yank stuff.
Although the yanks don’t play well with the French.
We’re not getting the subs for 50 years so none of it really matters.
All it means that we’ll be building subs for 50 years and creating lifetime employment for a shed load of people.
It’s all really academic right now.

Of equal important I would have thought, would to be undetectable, which usually means running quiet.

The quietest subs are ones that don’t exist

You have large sheds and regular launches but unknown to everyone is that it’s the same sub being launched . The worlds super powers see a sub being launched every week and decide it’s not worth messing with Australia plus this fleet of new subs is undetectable

then if someone looks at their(it’s) maintenance shed?

If turkey is hit by a “spectacular” every day for two months targeting the police and army it will be game over, the border areas won’t be secure and more terrorists will come pouring into Europe , namely Germany and France

The British have been watching this and have pulled up the draw bridge as Europe implodes

Postpocelipse said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

Postpocelipse said:

Oh multiverse ship. I thought you wanted to go outside of time and space. Can’t see why you’d be a ball of light in a multiverse ship.

just an ephemeral naked you…, – No, Hard Light, not like soft light that can dissipate.

Oh multiverse ship. – Yes

I thought you wanted to go outside of time and space, Yes, my ship can travel between universes, as well as leaving space time. Its good being more flexible.

Can’t see why you’d be a ball of light in a multiverse ship. – I can change into other states of matter like hard light, so why not a sphere, its better than being a drone that blows itself up like suicide bombers.

you have a point. what is the ship for if you can simply travel as a transmuton?

Yes, the ship is for traveling, transmutations that travel on a transmuting spaceship.

I pinched the idea from Blake’s Seven

Remember the spaceship Liberator that could heal itself, Orac that could takeover other computers?

CrazyNeutrino said:

Postpocelipse said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

just an ephemeral naked you…, – No, Hard Light, not like soft light that can dissipate.

Oh multiverse ship. – Yes

I thought you wanted to go outside of time and space, Yes, my ship can travel between universes, as well as leaving space time. Its good being more flexible.

Can’t see why you’d be a ball of light in a multiverse ship. – I can change into other states of matter like hard light, so why not a sphere, its better than being a drone that blows itself up like suicide bombers.

you have a point. what is the ship for if you can simply travel as a transmuton?

Yes, the ship is for traveling, transmutatons that travel on a transmuting spaceship.

I won’t argue the point but I fixed your mispelling………

CrazyNeutrino said:

I pinched the idea from Blake’s Seven

Remember the spaceship Liberator that could heal itself, Orac that could takeover other computers?

Orac, under Avons instructions took over the System that built the liberator, Orac had them build a large fleet of them for the rebellion, plus a few more for Avon himself.

Avon had clones meet the federation troops, Sevalan had thought she eliminated them,

Avon had a laugh

Roj Blake then led the attack on the Federation using over a million Liberator class ships, the original design modified by Orac.

CrazyNeutrino said:

Postpocelipse said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

just an ephemeral naked you…, – No, Hard Light, not like soft light that can dissipate.

Oh multiverse ship. – Yes

I thought you wanted to go outside of time and space, Yes, my ship can travel between universes, as well as leaving space time. Its good being more flexible.

Can’t see why you’d be a ball of light in a multiverse ship. – I can change into other states of matter like hard light, so why not a sphere, its better than being a drone that blows itself up like suicide bombers.

you have a point. what is the ship for if you can simply travel as a transmuton?

Yes, the ship is for traveling, transmutations that travel on a transmuting spaceship.

Yes, the ship is for traveling, transmutations that travel on a transmuting spaceship.

Yes, my spelling is correct thank you.

CrazyNeutrino said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

Postpocelipse said:

you have a point. what is the ship for if you can simply travel as a transmuton?

Yes, the ship is for traveling, transmutations that travel on a transmuting spaceship.

Yes, the ship is for traveling, transmutations that travel on a transmuting spaceship.

Yes, my spelling is correct thank you.

Only in potato-head langauge……

CrazyNeutrino said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

I pinched the idea from Blake’s Seven

Remember the spaceship Liberator that could heal itself, Orac that could takeover other computers?

Orac, under Avons instructions took over the System that built the liberator, Orac had them build a large fleet of them for the rebellion, plus a few more for Avon himself.

Avon had clones meet the federation troops, Sevalan had thought she eliminated them,

Avon had a laugh

Roj Blake then led the attack on the Federation using over a million Liberator class ships, the original design modified by Orac.

Servalan gets teleported to a remote lonely isolated planet with no other lifeforms

but a teleport malfunction creates two copies of her

they spend the rest of their lives trying to kill each other

Avalon has another laugh

Orac teleports itself into a black hole, becoming even more powerful, the black hole then disappears

A distant “Goodbye, Avon” is heard on the Zen computer

CrazyNeutrino said:

A distant “Goodbye, Avon” is heard on the Zen computer

That would have been scary in the 80’s……….

………. you must be joking?

Postpocelipse said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

A distant “Goodbye, Avon” is heard on the Zen computer

That would have been scary in the 80’s……….

I had always thought that Orac was more powerful than both Servalan and Avon.

Orac being designed by a computer Scientist Ensor and programmed with his personality, Orac had that same computer designer engineer power as well.

Orac had much fascination with Black Holes and risked close encounter using the Liberator

Orac had massed enough information about black holes to control one completely and disappear elsewhere

I only got one question, did he take off with the BH? That would have been really rude for anyone in that galaxy.

Postpocelipse said:

I only got one question, did he take off with the BH? That would have been really rude for anyone in that galaxy.

Orac was known to be rude.

CrazyNeutrino said:

Postpocelipse said:

I only got one question, did he take off with the BH? That would have been really rude for anyone in that galaxy.

Orac was known to be rude.

To answer your Question.

Yes, Orac took off with the BH.

Apologies to Wookie for developing an alternate ending to Blake’s Seven in this Missile thread

A Missile flown by a remote pilot – Lt. C Sean Bean

How about a transparent drone, or transparent robots?