Date: 3/09/2016 11:51:08
From: dv
ID: 950479
Subject: The simple solution to traffic

http://www.cgpgrey.com/blog/the-simple-solution-to-traffic

The Simple Solution To Traffic by C.G.P. Grey

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Date: 3/09/2016 12:43:46
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 950517
Subject: re: The simple solution to traffic

TRAFFIC WAVES
http://trafficwaves.org/

http://www.topspeed.com/cars/car-news/why-do-we-have-to-slow-down-to-a-crawl-on-the-freeway-ar110152.html

Ive experienced a slow down wave on the western ring road

people slowing down to look at a truck that was broken down

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Date: 3/09/2016 13:24:27
From: dv
ID: 950530
Subject: re: The simple solution to traffic

CrazyNeutrino said:


TRAFFIC WAVES
http://trafficwaves.org/

http://www.topspeed.com/cars/car-news/why-do-we-have-to-slow-down-to-a-crawl-on-the-freeway-ar110152.html

Ive experienced a slow down wave on the western ring road

people slowing down to look at a truck that was broken down

The thing is, the slow down waves are self-sustaining. Even if there is a temporary disturbance due to the truck breaking down, and NO-ONE looks at the truck, there will still be a traffic snarl.

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Date: 3/09/2016 13:41:56
From: Neophyte
ID: 950543
Subject: re: The simple solution to traffic

We have a roundabout in Adelaide that was cursed for decades as being a source of regular collisions, bottlenecks etc.

A couple of years ago some boffin figured out that the solution was…..an extra roundabout built adjacent to the first.

It seems to have worked.

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Date: 3/09/2016 13:44:58
From: Bubblecar
ID: 950546
Subject: re: The simple solution to traffic

Neophyte said:


We have a roundabout in Adelaide that was cursed for decades as being a source of regular collisions, bottlenecks etc.

A couple of years ago some boffin figured out that the solution was…..an extra roundabout built adjacent to the first.

It seems to have worked.

The new one gets them in an appropriate roundabout mood, ready to tackle the original one.

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Date: 3/09/2016 13:45:20
From: stumpy_seahorse
ID: 950547
Subject: re: The simple solution to traffic

Neophyte said:


We have a roundabout in Adelaide that was cursed for decades as being a source of regular collisions, bottlenecks etc.

A couple of years ago some boffin figured out that the solution was…..an extra roundabout built adjacent to the first.

It seems to have worked.

I never had a problem with Brittania myself..
(sister lived 100m from it)

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Date: 3/09/2016 13:47:02
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 950550
Subject: re: The simple solution to traffic

Neophyte said:


We have a roundabout in Adelaide that was cursed for decades as being a source of regular collisions, bottlenecks etc.

A couple of years ago some boffin figured out that the solution was…..an extra roundabout built adjacent to the first.

It seems to have worked.

they put traffic lights on a similar problem roundabout in Bunbury.

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Date: 3/09/2016 13:49:26
From: bob(from black rock)
ID: 950554
Subject: re: The simple solution to traffic

ChrispenEvan said:


Neophyte said:

We have a roundabout in Adelaide that was cursed for decades as being a source of regular collisions, bottlenecks etc.

A couple of years ago some boffin figured out that the solution was…..an extra roundabout built adjacent to the first.

It seems to have worked.

they put traffic lights on a similar problem roundabout in Bunbury.

Wonder what would happen if it was a square?

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Date: 3/09/2016 13:58:32
From: Neophyte
ID: 950559
Subject: re: The simple solution to traffic

here’s how it works….

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJEFDCN07tI

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Date: 3/09/2016 14:03:11
From: Ian
ID: 950561
Subject: re: The simple solution to traffic

Neophyte said:


We have a roundabout in Adelaide that was cursed for decades as being a source of regular collisions, bottlenecks etc.

A couple of years ago some boffin figured out that the solution was…..an extra roundabout built adjacent to the first.

It seems to have worked.

circular thinking

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Date: 3/09/2016 14:05:16
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 950562
Subject: re: The simple solution to traffic

Ian said:


Neophyte said:

We have a roundabout in Adelaide that was cursed for decades as being a source of regular collisions, bottlenecks etc.

A couple of years ago some boffin figured out that the solution was…..an extra roundabout built adjacent to the first.

It seems to have worked.

circular thinking

well, yes, in a roundabout way.

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Date: 3/09/2016 14:11:47
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 950564
Subject: re: The simple solution to traffic

ChrispenEvan said:


Ian said:

Neophyte said:

We have a roundabout in Adelaide that was cursed for decades as being a source of regular collisions, bottlenecks etc.

A couple of years ago some boffin figured out that the solution was…..an extra roundabout built adjacent to the first.

It seems to have worked.

circular thinking

well, yes, in a roundabout way.

It drives me circuitous.

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Date: 4/09/2016 10:24:14
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 950900
Subject: re: The simple solution to traffic

The simple solution to traffic.

Traffic = const. * population / speed.

So the simple solution is to maximise road speeds.

Danger = const. * Traffic * Speed
= const. * Population * speed / speed
=const. by Population

so reducing road speeds doesn’t make roads safer.

Simple.

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Date: 4/09/2016 10:29:18
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 950904
Subject: re: The simple solution to traffic

dv said:


http://www.cgpgrey.com/blog/the-simple-solution-to-traffic

The Simple Solution To Traffic by C.G.P. Grey


Anyone know how to make graphics like this. I have several projects that I want to illustrate in this way, including a project displaying how to optimise traffic in an Australian city.

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Date: 4/09/2016 12:42:34
From: dv
ID: 950942
Subject: re: The simple solution to traffic

mollwollfumble said:


dv said:

http://www.cgpgrey.com/blog/the-simple-solution-to-traffic

The Simple Solution To Traffic by C.G.P. Grey


Anyone know how to make graphics like this. I have several projects that I want to illustrate in this way, including a project displaying how to optimise traffic in an Australian city.

I’d use flash animation.

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Date: 4/09/2016 15:44:59
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 950981
Subject: re: The simple solution to traffic

dv said:

I’d use flash animation.

Checks web:
“A Flash animation or Flash cartoon is an animated film that is created by Adobe Flash (Now Adobe Animate) or similar animation software and often distributed in the SWF file format. … There are a number of other software packages available that can create output in the .swf format. Among these are GoAnimate, Toon Boom, Xara Photo & Graphic Designer, Toufee, Express Animator and Anime Studio. These front-ends often provide additional support for creating cartoons, especially with tools more tailored to traditionally trained animators, as well as additional rigging for characters, which can speed up character animation considerably.”

https://helpx.adobe.com/animate/tutorials.html Overview — Take a one-minute tour.

Minimum payment of $276 only lasts a year. No thanks. For software, I either buy it outright or not at all.
Compare Microsoft Office, where a single payment of $179 lasts forever, and Office is far more useful than Animate.

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Date: 4/09/2016 15:48:05
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 950982
Subject: re: The simple solution to traffic

mollwollfumble said:


dv said:

I’d use flash animation.

Checks web:
“A Flash animation or Flash cartoon is an animated film that is created by Adobe Flash (Now Adobe Animate) or similar animation software and often distributed in the SWF file format. … There are a number of other software packages available that can create output in the .swf format. Among these are GoAnimate, Toon Boom, Xara Photo & Graphic Designer, Toufee, Express Animator and Anime Studio. These front-ends often provide additional support for creating cartoons, especially with tools more tailored to traditionally trained animators, as well as additional rigging for characters, which can speed up character animation considerably.”

https://helpx.adobe.com/animate/tutorials.html Overview — Take a one-minute tour.

Minimum payment of $276 only lasts a year. No thanks. For software, I either buy it outright or not at all.
Compare Microsoft Office, where a single payment of $179 lasts forever, and Office is far more useful than Animate.

Flash sites crash a lot on my pc

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Date: 4/09/2016 15:49:39
From: dv
ID: 950984
Subject: re: The simple solution to traffic

CrazyNeutrino said:


mollwollfumble said:

dv said:

I’d use flash animation.

Checks web:
“A Flash animation or Flash cartoon is an animated film that is created by Adobe Flash (Now Adobe Animate) or similar animation software and often distributed in the SWF file format. … There are a number of other software packages available that can create output in the .swf format. Among these are GoAnimate, Toon Boom, Xara Photo & Graphic Designer, Toufee, Express Animator and Anime Studio. These front-ends often provide additional support for creating cartoons, especially with tools more tailored to traditionally trained animators, as well as additional rigging for characters, which can speed up character animation considerably.”

https://helpx.adobe.com/animate/tutorials.html Overview — Take a one-minute tour.

Minimum payment of $276 only lasts a year. No thanks. For software, I either buy it outright or not at all.
Compare Microsoft Office, where a single payment of $179 lasts forever, and Office is far more useful than Animate.

Flash sites crash a lot on my pc

In this case you’d be using Flash to, ultimately, generate a gif. Gifs don’t crash.

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Date: 4/09/2016 15:53:49
From: stumpy_seahorse
ID: 950986
Subject: re: The simple solution to traffic

dv said:


CrazyNeutrino said:

mollwollfumble said:

Checks web:
“A Flash animation or Flash cartoon is an animated film that is created by Adobe Flash (Now Adobe Animate) or similar animation software and often distributed in the SWF file format. … There are a number of other software packages available that can create output in the .swf format. Among these are GoAnimate, Toon Boom, Xara Photo & Graphic Designer, Toufee, Express Animator and Anime Studio. These front-ends often provide additional support for creating cartoons, especially with tools more tailored to traditionally trained animators, as well as additional rigging for characters, which can speed up character animation considerably.”

https://helpx.adobe.com/animate/tutorials.html Overview — Take a one-minute tour.

Minimum payment of $276 only lasts a year. No thanks. For software, I either buy it outright or not at all.
Compare Microsoft Office, where a single payment of $179 lasts forever, and Office is far more useful than Animate.

Flash sites crash a lot on my pc

In this case you’d be using Flash to, ultimately, generate a gif. Gifs don’t crash.

O RLY?…

http://giphy.com/gifs/cheezburger-car-crash-dummies-iEd5SratrXytW

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Date: 6/09/2016 09:29:27
From: diddly-squat
ID: 951465
Subject: re: The simple solution to traffic

Rev will never go for this…

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Date: 6/09/2016 14:19:31
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 951530
Subject: re: The simple solution to traffic

diddly-squat said:


Rev will never go for this…

You’re right. I’d do it in Excel with VBA, not Flash.

Not saying that’s the best way to do it, but for me it’s the easiest.

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Date: 8/07/2024 10:33:25
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2172732
Subject: re: The simple solution to traffic

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-07-08/australian-work-commutes-compared-to-europe-north-ameica/104058132

So firstly whoever designed those charts is an absolute …

… and secondly

The average Australian worker spends more than an hour a day stuck in rush-hour traffic, fighting for a seat on the bus or trying to zone out on the train.

seems to understate

For example, workers averaged a weekly commuting time of about 3.7 hours just more than two decades ago. That grew to about 4.5 hours in 2017.

if it is indeed true …

… but anyway there’s a pretty simple solution to this garbage, just Remote Working From Home using this fantastic new invention called “internet” and your commutation time will be measured in milliseconds¡

(Still not convinced about the 3.7 hours 4.5 hours maybe they mean that amount divided by 6¿)

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Date: 8/07/2024 11:01:57
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2172760
Subject: re: The simple solution to traffic

SCIENCE said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-07-08/australian-work-commutes-compared-to-europe-north-ameica/104058132

So firstly whoever designed those charts is an absolute …

… and secondly

The average Australian worker spends more than an hour a day stuck in rush-hour traffic, fighting for a seat on the bus or trying to zone out on the train.

seems to understate

For example, workers averaged a weekly commuting time of about 3.7 hours just more than two decades ago. That grew to about 4.5 hours in 2017.

if it is indeed true …

… but anyway there’s a pretty simple solution to this garbage, just Remote Working From Home using this fantastic new invention called “internet” and your commutation time will be measured in milliseconds¡

(Still not convinced about the 3.7 hours 4.5 hours maybe they mean that amount divided by 6¿)

Thanks for pointing that out, we misread one bit and clearly we work 0.8333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333 days a week but otherwise WTF still.

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Date: 8/07/2024 11:03:36
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2172762
Subject: re: The simple solution to traffic

SCIENCE said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-07-08/australian-work-commutes-compared-to-europe-north-ameica/104058132

So firstly whoever designed those charts is an absolute …

… and secondly

The average Australian worker spends more than an hour a day stuck in rush-hour traffic, fighting for a seat on the bus or trying to zone out on the train.

seems to understate

For example, workers averaged a weekly commuting time of about 3.7 hours just more than two decades ago. That grew to about 4.5 hours in 2017.

if it is indeed true …

… but anyway there’s a pretty simple solution to this garbage, just Remote Working From Home using this fantastic new invention called “internet” and your commutation time will be measured in milliseconds¡

(Still not convinced about the 3.7 hours 4.5 hours maybe they mean that amount divided by 6¿)

Showing your love of HISTORY again I see mr SCIENCE.

1/2 an hour each way to work and back seems pretty good to me.

Although I have worked from home for the past 24 years, so my trip is a little shorter.

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Date: 8/07/2024 11:07:31
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2172769
Subject: re: The simple solution to traffic

The Rev Dodgson said:

SCIENCE said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-07-08/australian-work-commutes-compared-to-europe-north-ameica/104058132

So firstly whoever designed those charts is an absolute …

… and secondly

The average Australian worker spends more than an hour a day stuck in rush-hour traffic, fighting for a seat on the bus or trying to zone out on the train.

seems to understate

For example, workers averaged a weekly commuting time of about 3.7 hours just more than two decades ago. That grew to about 4.5 hours in 2017.

if it is indeed true …

… but anyway there’s a pretty simple solution to this garbage, just Remote Working From Home using this fantastic new invention called “internet” and your commutation time will be measured in milliseconds¡

(Still not convinced about the 3.7 hours 4.5 hours maybe they mean that amount divided by 6¿)

Showing your love of HISTORY again I see mr SCIENCE.

1/2 an hour each way to work and back seems pretty good to me.

Although I have worked from home for the past 24 years, so my trip is a little shorter.

Who doesn’t love a good PHYSTORICS though.

We but stand on the shoulders of giants and find shifting work times away from peak to be another acceptable solution to long commutation.

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Date: 8/07/2024 11:12:02
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2172773
Subject: re: The simple solution to traffic

SCIENCE said:

SCIENCE said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-07-08/australian-work-commutes-compared-to-europe-north-ameica/104058132

So firstly whoever designed those charts is an absolute …

… and secondly

The average Australian worker spends more than an hour a day stuck in rush-hour traffic, fighting for a seat on the bus or trying to zone out on the train.

seems to understate

For example, workers averaged a weekly commuting time of about 3.7 hours just more than two decades ago. That grew to about 4.5 hours in 2017.

if it is indeed true …

… but anyway there’s a pretty simple solution to this garbage, just Remote Working From Home using this fantastic new invention called “internet” and your commutation time will be measured in milliseconds¡

(Still not convinced about the 3.7 hours 4.5 hours maybe they mean that amount divided by 6¿)

Thanks for pointing that out, we misread one bit and clearly we work 0.8333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333 days a week but otherwise WTF still.

Now given the article a quick scan.

They did a great job of using graphics to conceal information rather than reveal it.

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Date: 8/07/2024 11:14:20
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2172775
Subject: re: The simple solution to traffic

The Rev Dodgson said:

Now given the article a quick scan.

They did a great job of using graphics to conceal information rather than reveal it.

I did like the way that they used graphs to compare other countries’ figures with Australia’s figures, even though those graphs did not show Australia’s figures.

No molly-coddlingthe statistically-iliterate; go away and work it out for yourselves, yer lazy slugs.

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Date: 8/07/2024 11:18:36
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2172776
Subject: re: The simple solution to traffic

captain_spalding said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Now given the article a quick scan.

They did a great job of using graphics to conceal information rather than reveal it.

I did like the way that they used graphs to compare other countries’ figures with Australia’s figures, even though those graphs did not show Australia’s figures.

No molly-coddlingthe statistically-iliterate; go away and work it out for yourselves, yer lazy slugs.

:)

The other thing is, in London a commute time of over an hour is absolutely standard for all the peasants living in the outer suburbs, but a large part of the population don’t work in London, and all the other cities are much smaller.

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Date: 8/07/2024 11:20:52
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2172778
Subject: re: The simple solution to traffic

The Rev Dodgson said:


captain_spalding said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Now given the article a quick scan.

They did a great job of using graphics to conceal information rather than reveal it.

I did like the way that they used graphs to compare other countries’ figures with Australia’s figures, even though those graphs did not show Australia’s figures.

No molly-coddlingthe statistically-iliterate; go away and work it out for yourselves, yer lazy slugs.

:)

The other thing is, in London a commute time of over an hour is absolutely standard for all the peasants living in the outer suburbs, but a large part of the population don’t work in London, and all the other cities are much smaller.

But apart from that, yes Australian cities do need to do a better job of providing high speed public transport from their outer suburbs.

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