Date: 6/09/2016 15:26:53
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 951545
Subject: Tree Planting Drones

Tree-planting drones to speed up reforestation efforts

Planting trees in remote forest locations is a slow, laborious process that still relies on humans with shovels to do all the work. DroneSeed, a company based in the Pacific Northwest, wants to drastically modernize that process by employing squadrons of drones to plant seeds, spray for invasive species, and monitor the tree growth process.

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Date: 6/09/2016 15:46:30
From: sibeen
ID: 951548
Subject: re: Tree Planting Drones

CrazyNeutrino said:


Tree-planting drones to speed up reforestation efforts

Planting trees in remote forest locations is a slow, laborious process that still relies on humans with shovels to do all the work. DroneSeed, a company based in the Pacific Northwest, wants to drastically modernize that process by employing squadrons of drones to plant seeds, spray for invasive species, and monitor the tree growth process.

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Wookie, Crazy wants his handle back.

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Date: 6/09/2016 15:53:18
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 951550
Subject: re: Tree Planting Drones

sibeen said:


CrazyNeutrino said:

Tree-planting drones to speed up reforestation efforts

Planting trees in remote forest locations is a slow, laborious process that still relies on humans with shovels to do all the work. DroneSeed, a company based in the Pacific Northwest, wants to drastically modernize that process by employing squadrons of drones to plant seeds, spray for invasive species, and monitor the tree growth process.

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Wookie, Crazy wants his handle back.

wookies drones are for putting out the forest fires that will happen in all these plantations.

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Date: 6/09/2016 15:54:59
From: Bubblecar
ID: 951551
Subject: re: Tree Planting Drones

The idea sounds feasible enough.

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Date: 6/09/2016 15:56:46
From: diddly-squat
ID: 951554
Subject: re: Tree Planting Drones

ChrispenEvan said:


sibeen said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

Tree-planting drones to speed up reforestation efforts

Planting trees in remote forest locations is a slow, laborious process that still relies on humans with shovels to do all the work. DroneSeed, a company based in the Pacific Northwest, wants to drastically modernize that process by employing squadrons of drones to plant seeds, spray for invasive species, and monitor the tree growth process.

more…

Wookie, Crazy wants his handle back.

wookies drones are for putting out the forest fires that will happen in all these plantations.

nah… destroying road and rail infrastructure… that’s how you stop an enemy

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Date: 6/09/2016 16:02:11
From: poikilotherm
ID: 951556
Subject: re: Tree Planting Drones

What we really need is a drone army to water the indoor pot plants in the APS.

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Date: 6/09/2016 16:04:01
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 951558
Subject: re: Tree Planting Drones

need moah drones.

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Date: 6/09/2016 16:04:29
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 951559
Subject: re: Tree Planting Drones

ChrispenEvan said:


need moah drones.

or moar.

:-)

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Date: 6/09/2016 16:04:36
From: diddly-squat
ID: 951560
Subject: re: Tree Planting Drones

poikilotherm said:


What we really need is a drone army to water the indoor pot plants in the APS.

loooooxury

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Date: 6/09/2016 16:15:06
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 951562
Subject: re: Tree Planting Drones

ChrispenEvan said:


ChrispenEvan said:

need moah drones.

or moar.

:-)

Mohr?

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Date: 6/09/2016 16:17:15
From: sibeen
ID: 951563
Subject: re: Tree Planting Drones

The Rev Dodgson said:


ChrispenEvan said:

ChrispenEvan said:

need moah drones.

or moar.

:-)

Mohr?

If we try harder it could be Mohs.

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Date: 6/09/2016 16:21:08
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 951566
Subject: re: Tree Planting Drones

sibeen said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

ChrispenEvan said:

or moar.

:-)

Mohr?

If we try harder it could be Mohs.

and if we wanted to be funny it could be Mo’s

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Date: 6/09/2016 18:24:51
From: PermeateFree
ID: 951602
Subject: re: Tree Planting Drones

Bubblecar said:


The idea sounds feasible enough.

They probably can do it, but there are downsides as well. Normally, especially in Australia, a burnt forest will regenerate itself and does not need seeding by drones or anything else. Nevertheless seedlings and seed are often planted in logged areas (clear-felled) that will subtly change the natural distribution of local species, by planting more of a desired tree for future logging and by this action influence the biota of the area. This is a planned Forestry Commission procedure and like much of their activities, is not necessarily a good one, .

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Date: 6/09/2016 20:00:11
From: party_pants
ID: 951631
Subject: re: Tree Planting Drones

I had an idea about aerial planting.

A paper cone like what you would get with say a Cornetto or Trumpet style ice cream. Fill the bottom part of the cone with sand to weight it so it sits upright when falling. Fill the rest of the cone with gel and any fertilisers or cutting hormones etc you wish add. Pop in the seed or small cutting. Drop from aircraft. Hopefully it falls upright and buries itself deep enough in to soil to correct level without destroying the seed or cutting. As the plant grows the paper ice-cream cone with biodegrade.

Never got to experiment with it.

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Date: 6/09/2016 23:07:38
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 951690
Subject: re: Tree Planting Drones

Have they taken into account the greenhouse gases produced in generating the power and the batteries for the drones?

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Date: 7/09/2016 01:03:58
From: Ogmog
ID: 951710
Subject: re: Tree Planting Drones

PermeateFree said:


Bubblecar said:

The idea sounds feasible enough.

They probably can do it, but there are downsides as well. Normally, especially in Australia, a burnt forest will regenerate itself and does not need seeding by drones or anything else. Nevertheless seedlings and seed are often planted in logged areas (clear-felled) that will subtly change the natural distribution of local species, by planting more of a desired tree for future logging and by this action influence the biota of the area. This is a planned Forestry Commission procedure and like much of their activities, is not necessarily a good one, .


+1
Once Trees have Price Tags attached to them.. valued By The Board-Foot
Rather than their Serene Beauty and Ability to Sustain LIFE
This Planet will be a Poorer Place.
Beyond Redemption.

At BEST, it Favours PRO BOTTOM-LINERS who have no interest nor appreciation, for Healthy Bio-Diversity.

At WORST, It can be used to Skew the Info against Folks who DO value & understand Healthy Bio-Diversity.

Although it “SOUNDS-GOOD-On PAPER” ( after all, who’s Not In Favour of RE-Forestation?) by being able
to front-up the NUMBERS of “Replaced” Trees vs Clear-Cut Acreage.

At first glance it SEEMS To Balance-Out
until you realize that what’s Being SOLD To the People is (#1) NOT A FOREST, But A STERILE TREE FARM
which (#2) will take 10-15 YEARS to be COMMERCIALLY LOG-ABLE… During Which TIME
(#3) The Bottom-Liners will CONTINUE Full-Bore SANCTIONED CLEAR-CUTTING. Using Skewed View as “PROOF
IOW
THIS:

v.s.
THAT

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Date: 7/09/2016 10:31:12
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 951759
Subject: re: Tree Planting Drones

Ogmog said:


PermeateFree said:

Bubblecar said:

The idea sounds feasible enough.

They probably can do it, but there are downsides as well. Normally, especially in Australia, a burnt forest will regenerate itself and does not need seeding by drones or anything else. Nevertheless seedlings and seed are often planted in logged areas (clear-felled) that will subtly change the natural distribution of local species, by planting more of a desired tree for future logging and by this action influence the biota of the area. This is a planned Forestry Commission procedure and like much of their activities, is not necessarily a good one, .


+1
Once Trees have Price Tags attached to them.. valued By The Board-Foot
Rather than their Serene Beauty and Ability to Sustain LIFE
This Planet will be a Poorer Place.
Beyond Redemption.

At BEST, it Favours PRO BOTTOM-LINERS who have no interest nor appreciation, for Healthy Bio-Diversity.

At WORST, It can be used to Skew the Info against Folks who DO value & understand Healthy Bio-Diversity.

Although it “SOUNDS-GOOD-On PAPER” ( after all, who’s Not In Favour of RE-Forestation?) by being able
to front-up the NUMBERS of “Replaced” Trees vs Clear-Cut Acreage.

At first glance it SEEMS To Balance-Out
until you realize that what’s Being SOLD To the People is (#1) NOT A FOREST, But A STERILE TREE FARM
which (#2) will take 10-15 YEARS to be COMMERCIALLY LOG-ABLE… During Which TIME
(#3) The Bottom-Liners will CONTINUE Full-Bore SANCTIONED CLEAR-CUTTING. Using Skewed View as “PROOF
IOW
THIS:
!http://www.motherearthnews.com/~/media/Images/MEN/Editorial/Articles/Magazine%20Articles/1975/01-01/One%20Mans%20Forest%20Starting%20a%20Tree%20Plantation/tree-farm.jpg
v.s.
THAT
!http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/Photografix/FLORA/forest.jpg

yes you have a point

perhaps one solution is to look at what grows in a natural forest area

then look at ways in which other plants could reside in a plantation

to create a more natural environment for birds and insects etc

instead of whole areas being cut down say two or three rows of plantation could be cut down while at the same time replanting

maybe look at computer modeling to design a plantation for best efficiency and leaves the forest floor alone

with more expert input a more sustainable design could be put in place

Im not a forest expert

just an ideas person

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Date: 7/09/2016 10:42:57
From: Ogmog
ID: 951766
Subject: re: Tree Planting Drones

CrazyNeutrino said:


Ogmog said:

PermeateFree said:

yes you have a point

perhaps one solution is to look at what grows in a natural forest area

then look at ways in which other plants could reside in a plantation

to create a more natural environment for birds and insects etc

instead of whole areas being cut down say two or three rows of plantation could be cut down while at the same time replanting

maybe look at computer modeling to design a plantation for best efficiency and leaves the forest floor alone

with more expert input a more sustainable design could be put in place

Im not a forest expert

just an ideas person

they lost my vote
the instant they mentioned
spraying herbicide on all but
their Target Trees, perfect from
a PLANTATION Point of View, but
a Decree of DEATH for every other
living thing that interfered w/PROFIT.

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Date: 7/09/2016 10:47:28
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 951770
Subject: re: Tree Planting Drones

Ogmog said:


CrazyNeutrino said:

Ogmog said:

PermeateFree said:

yes you have a point

perhaps one solution is to look at what grows in a natural forest area

then look at ways in which other plants could reside in a plantation

to create a more natural environment for birds and insects etc

instead of whole areas being cut down say two or three rows of plantation could be cut down while at the same time replanting

maybe look at computer modeling to design a plantation for best efficiency and leaves the forest floor alone

with more expert input a more sustainable design could be put in place

Im not a forest expert

just an ideas person

they lost my vote
the instant they mentioned
spraying herbicide on all but
their Target Trees, perfect from
a PLANTATION Point of View, but
a Decree of DEATH for every other
living thing that interfered w/PROFIT.

Say No to spray

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Date: 7/09/2016 10:47:29
From: Cymek
ID: 951771
Subject: re: Tree Planting Drones

I found this article on the value of a tree, it’s pretty old and I do remember reading something much more recent but cannot remember where.

http://www.uow.edu.au/~sharonb/STS300/valuing/price/pricingarticles.html

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Date: 7/09/2016 11:00:41
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 951778
Subject: re: Tree Planting Drones

Cymek said:


I found this article on the value of a tree, it’s pretty old and I do remember reading something much more recent but cannot remember where.

http://www.uow.edu.au/~sharonb/STS300/valuing/price/pricingarticles.html

That’s a really good article

Trees: finding their true value, gives a reason that the CSIRO should employ more scientists to really work out this issue

not just the money side, but the nature side as well

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Date: 8/09/2016 21:02:14
From: wookiemeister
ID: 952462
Subject: re: Tree Planting Drones

diddly-squat said:


ChrispenEvan said:

sibeen said:

Wookie, Crazy wants his handle back.

wookies drones are for putting out the forest fires that will happen in all these plantations.

nah… destroying road and rail infrastructure… that’s how you stop an enemy


as opposed to allowing tanks, troops, ammunition and other suppli to travel unhindered to the battle field – no wonder australia hasn’t won a war since malaya, america hasn’t won a war since WW2

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Date: 8/09/2016 21:46:15
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 952474
Subject: re: Tree Planting Drones

wookiemeister said:


diddly-squat said:

ChrispenEvan said:

wookies drones are for putting out the forest fires that will happen in all these plantations.

nah… destroying road and rail infrastructure… that’s how you stop an enemy


as opposed to allowing tanks, troops, ammunition and other suppli to travel unhindered to the battle field – no wonder australia hasn’t won a war since malaya, america hasn’t won a war since WW2

Humanity Looses.

Simple.

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Date: 9/09/2016 00:59:06
From: Ogmog
ID: 952556
Subject: re: Tree Planting Drones

CrazyNeutrino said:


Cymek said:

I found this article on the value of a tree, it’s pretty old and I do remember reading something much more recent but cannot remember where.

http://www.uow.edu.au/~sharonb/STS300/valuing/price/pricingarticles.html

That’s a really good article

Trees: finding their true value, gives a reason that the CSIRO should employ more scientists to really work out this issue

not just the money side, but the nature side as well

It IS A Good Article
However..
The Danger of assigning a “Dollar Value” to these (all too often taken for granted) voiceless entities
comes from they that I called “THE Bottom-Liners” when they glibbly weigh the “VALUE/WORTH”
of X-Y-Z is when weighing the Potential “WORTH” of a SHOPPING MALL v.s. “A Bunch of Trees” :-p

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Date: 9/09/2016 07:02:11
From: roughbarked
ID: 952571
Subject: re: Tree Planting Drones

Ogmog said:


CrazyNeutrino said:

Cymek said:

I found this article on the value of a tree, it’s pretty old and I do remember reading something much more recent but cannot remember where.

http://www.uow.edu.au/~sharonb/STS300/valuing/price/pricingarticles.html

That’s a really good article

Trees: finding their true value, gives a reason that the CSIRO should employ more scientists to really work out this issue

not just the money side, but the nature side as well

It IS A Good Article
However..
The Danger of assigning a “Dollar Value” to these (all too often taken for granted) voiceless entities
comes from they that I called “THE Bottom-Liners” when they glibbly weigh the “VALUE/WORTH”
of X-Y-Z is when weighing the Potential “WORTH” of a SHOPPING MALL v.s. “A Bunch of Trees” :-p

I doubt that anyone is incapable of putting the known data in the one box, This will easily give the value of a tree. Walk up to any lone tree n a vast emptiness and it can easily be seen that this will be where the city of life in an otherwise treeless plain will be.

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