Date: 1/10/2016 14:00:35
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 962437
Subject: Book Review: Does Your Family Make You Smarter?

Does Your Family Make You Smarter?

http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20160929-our-iqs-have-never-been-higher-but-it-hasnt-made-us-smart

http://www.cambridge.org/us/academic/does-your-family-make-you-smarter

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Date: 1/10/2016 14:08:10
From: Bubblecar
ID: 962440
Subject: re: Book Review: Does Your Family Make You Smarter?

I’ll tell you what, these e-juices get much tastier if you leave them to age. Now vaping a baked apple tart (0 nicotine) mixed with one of the Israeli apple (24mg). I’d completely forgotten about this mix so it’s been blending for months. Very pleasing, like a fruity pipe tobacco.

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Date: 1/10/2016 14:08:50
From: Bubblecar
ID: 962441
Subject: re: Book Review: Does Your Family Make You Smarter?

Apologies, was for Chat.

Those links look interesting, I’ll have a look later.

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Date: 1/10/2016 14:15:41
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 962450
Subject: re: Book Review: Does Your Family Make You Smarter?

“Does your family make you smarter? James R. Flynn presents an exciting new method for estimating the effects of family on a range of cognitive abilities. Rather than using twin and adoption studies, he analyses IQ tables that have been hidden in manuals over the last 65 years, and shows that family environment can confer a significant advantage or disadvantage to your level of intelligence. Wading into the nature vs. nurture debate, Flynn banishes the pessimistic notion that by the age of seventeen, people’s cognitive abilities are solely determined by their genes. He argues that intelligence is also influenced by human autonomy – genetics and family notwithstanding, we all have the capacity to choose to enhance our cognitive performance.”

Hmm. How does one hide IQ tables in manuals?
And how can those distinguish between genetic family influence and non-genetic family influence?

I agree that everyone has the ability to increase their scores on IQ tests. It just takes enthusiasm and experience.

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Date: 1/10/2016 14:18:07
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 962452
Subject: re: Book Review: Does Your Family Make You Smarter?

mollwollfumble said:


“Does your family make you smarter? James R. Flynn presents an exciting new method for estimating the effects of family on a range of cognitive abilities. Rather than using twin and adoption studies, he analyses IQ tables that have been hidden in manuals over the last 65 years, and shows that family environment can confer a significant advantage or disadvantage to your level of intelligence. Wading into the nature vs. nurture debate, Flynn banishes the pessimistic notion that by the age of seventeen, people’s cognitive abilities are solely determined by their genes. He argues that intelligence is also influenced by human autonomy – genetics and family notwithstanding, we all have the capacity to choose to enhance our cognitive performance.”

Hmm. How does one hide IQ tables in manuals?
And how can those distinguish between genetic family influence and non-genetic family influence?

I agree that everyone has the ability to increase their scores on IQ tests. It just takes enthusiasm and experience.

Hmm. How does one hide IQ tables in manuals?

65 years, poor observation?

maybe people just didn’t look for it

Seems strange no detailed analysis was going on

dunno

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Date: 1/10/2016 14:22:22
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 962453
Subject: re: Book Review: Does Your Family Make You Smarter?

Examining the evidence, he saw that the average scores for everyone – black and white alike – had been rising consistently by around three points a decade. Yet few people had noted on the fact.

“I thought, why aren’t psychologists dancing in the street over this? What the hell is going on?” These were no small, incremental, improvements – between 1934 and 1964, the Dutch had gained 20 points – yet it had been ignored by the very people administering the tests. “It was sitting there right in front of their noses and they didn’t see it.”

Psychologists had long known that our genes play a role in our intelligence, and that its influence only increases as we get older. At kindergarten, genetics matter relatively little: what’s more important is whether your parents talk to you, read to you and practise things like counting. Sure enough, twin studies suggest that your genes account for about 20% of the variation in IQ at this age.

20 points over thirty years

Id like to see the figures from 1964 to 1994

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Date: 1/10/2016 14:32:03
From: Bubblecar
ID: 962456
Subject: re: Book Review: Does Your Family Make You Smarter?

All voracious readers in our family. Dad was into astronomy and had several telescopes, member of the local astronomical society etc. On my 11th birthday, after the birthday dinner he took me and my best friend to the local observatory which we had to ourselves for the night.

Mum was a literary type and archaeology enthusiast. All the family are artistically inclined, some more than others.

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Date: 1/10/2016 14:57:39
From: Arts
ID: 962461
Subject: re: Book Review: Does Your Family Make You Smarter?

in 2008 a comparative study was done using NAPLAN results. Students whose parents had highly educated parents had a mean reading score (in grade 3) of 436.0 compared to 358.7 for children whose parents had not completed yr 12. this gap between mean reading scores was five times larger than the male female reading gap.

(paraphrased from “Justice In Society” Belinda Carpenter)

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Date: 1/10/2016 15:10:30
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 962475
Subject: re: Book Review: Does Your Family Make You Smarter?

Arts said:


in 2008 a comparative study was done using NAPLAN results. Students whose parents had highly educated parents had a mean reading score (in grade 3) of 436.0 compared to 358.7 for children whose parents had not completed yr 12. this gap between mean reading scores was five times larger than the male female reading gap.

(paraphrased from “Justice In Society” Belinda Carpenter)

I think parents reading books to children at an early age is important.

My Dad read books to me when I was 5, 6, when I was a teen I was reading a few SF books a week.

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Date: 1/10/2016 15:13:55
From: buffy
ID: 962479
Subject: re: Book Review: Does Your Family Make You Smarter?

CrazyNeutrino said:

Examining the evidence, he saw that the average scores for everyone – black and white alike – had been rising consistently by around three points a decade. Yet few people had noted on the fact.

“I thought, why aren’t psychologists dancing in the street over this? What the hell is going on?” These were no small, incremental, improvements – between 1934 and 1964, the Dutch had gained 20 points – yet it had been ignored by the very people administering the tests. “It was sitting there right in front of their noses and they didn’t see it.”

Psychologists had long known that our genes play a role in our intelligence, and that its influence only increases as we get older. At kindergarten, genetics matter relatively little: what’s more important is whether your parents talk to you, read to you and practise things like counting. Sure enough, twin studies suggest that your genes account for about 20% of the variation in IQ at this age.

20 points over thirty years

Id like to see the figures from 1964 to 1994

Enculturation. Nothing more.

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Date: 1/10/2016 15:50:37
From: transition
ID: 962504
Subject: re: Book Review: Does Your Family Make You Smarter?

there is too the unshared environment, whatever that is.

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Date: 1/10/2016 16:02:01
From: transition
ID: 962510
Subject: re: Book Review: Does Your Family Make You Smarter?

interested me a bit, I did once read a book on psychometrics, I thought it might raise my IQ, but it just dented my already wobbly self esteem

http://ije.oxfordjournals.org/content/40/3/563.full

“The theme of the target article is that environmental differences between children in the same family (called “nonshared environment”) represent the major source of environmental variance for personality, psychopathology, and cognitive abilities”

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