Date: 1/10/2016 16:00:55
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 962508
Subject: Elon Musk announces ambitious solar system colonization plans

Elon Musk announces ambitious solar system colonization plans

At the International Astronautical Congress 2016, SpaceX founder Elon Musk outlined his ambitious plan for making humanity a multiplanet civilization. And as expected, his plan starts at Mars.

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Date: 1/10/2016 17:17:48
From: dv
ID: 962554
Subject: re: Elon Musk announces ambitious solar system colonization plans

http://www.space.com/34259-elon-musk-first-mars-colonists-prepared-die.html

1st Mars Colonists Should Be ‘Prepared to Die,’ Elon Musk Says

The first people who fly with SpaceX to Mars should be OK with the possibility that the decision could cost them their lives, company founder and CEO Elon Musk said.

SpaceX aims to ferry 1 million people to the Red Planet over the next 50 to 100 years using the Interplanetary Transport System (ITS), a rocket-spaceship combo that Musk unveiled Tuesday (Sept. 27) during a talk at the International Astronautical Congress (IAC) in Guadalajara, Mexico. (Well, he unveiled the ITS in concept; neither vehicle has been built yet.)

Musk painted a picture of a not-too-distant future in which 1,000 or more ITS spaceships, each loaded up with 100 or 200 settlers, zoom off toward Mars simultaneously from Earth orbit. But it’s naïve to expect that everything will work perfectly from the start, he said.
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http://www.space.com/34235-spacex-mars-plans-feasible-or-fantasy.html
“There’s no technical obstacle to the plan being executable,” space policy expert John Logsdon told Space.com. “SpaceX has good engineers. They don’t have to really invent much.”

Logsdon said he thinks the main obstacles to SpaceX’s Mars plans are money and time.

“The plan he is proposing on the timescale he is proposing seem to me to on the edge of fantasy,” Logsdon said. He noted that Musk is known for setting ambitious goals on tight time lines, saying, “That’s just Elon. That’s his style.”

In addition, Logsdon said that while Musk’s plan seemed to explain how humans would get to Mars, there was a significant gap in planning as to how those spacefarers would establish a colony on the Red Planet. Technologies and procedures for surviving on the surface of Mars are, at best, still in the early planning stages. Supporting such a huge influx of people will require food sources, an economic system and energy supplies, which Musk did not explain, Logsdon said.

“He got a little hand-wavy there,” Logsdon said.

Because of the huge amount of funding a plan like this will require, SpaceX can’t do it alone, Logsdon said. They’ll need significant sources of funding, and NASA will likely be one of those sources, he said. As a result, it’s very possible that NASA’s plans to send humans to Mars will converge with SpaceX’s plans, Logsdon added.

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Date: 1/10/2016 21:34:34
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 962662
Subject: re: Elon Musk announces ambitious solar system colonization plans

from the link

Musk outlined the need for reusability as well as in situ resources on Mars to drive that cost down and allow propellant production that could turn Mars into a fueling depot. The plan calls for using deep-cryo methalox (CH4/O2) fuel as it can provide the biggest cost savings and be produced in situ, as compared to hydrogen and oxygen or kerosene.

deep-cryo methalox (CH4/O2) fuel vs hydrogen and oxygen?

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Date: 1/10/2016 21:36:58
From: furious
ID: 962663
Subject: re: Elon Musk announces ambitious solar system colonization plans

Other articles suggest Tesla/Musk is going to fall….

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Date: 1/10/2016 21:40:03
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 962665
Subject: re: Elon Musk announces ambitious solar system colonization plans

furious said:


Other articles suggest Tesla/Musk is going to fall….

they just built a huge factory

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Date: 1/10/2016 21:41:59
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 962667
Subject: re: Elon Musk announces ambitious solar system colonization plans

CrazyNeutrino said:


furious said:

Other articles suggest Tesla/Musk is going to fall….

they just built a huge factory

and they have a youtube clip…

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Date: 1/10/2016 21:42:17
From: furious
ID: 962668
Subject: re: Elon Musk announces ambitious solar system colonization plans

To build batteries on the trailing edge…

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Date: 1/10/2016 21:43:20
From: furious
ID: 962669
Subject: re: Elon Musk announces ambitious solar system colonization plans

Everyone knows that the best videos are on…nevermind…

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Date: 1/10/2016 22:51:39
From: wookiemeister
ID: 962694
Subject: re: Elon Musk announces ambitious solar system colonization plans

Shakes money into the dustbin

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Date: 2/10/2016 09:01:45
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 962766
Subject: re: Elon Musk announces ambitious solar system colonization plans

He’s a fraud and shyster who’s only days away from a Chapter Eleven.
Don’t book on his Martian tours or give him any money in advance.

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