Date: 8/10/2016 20:07:58
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 965806
Subject: Living In The Matrix

Simulation Hypothesis: Living In The Matrix? Tech Billionaires Funding Research To Get Out

Tech billionaires’ latest obsession — outside of suing websites into oblivion and attending odd, expensive festivals in the desert — is apparently one that gripped the country in 1999.

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Date: 8/10/2016 23:41:13
From: wookiemeister
ID: 965845
Subject: re: Living In The Matrix

CrazyNeutrino said:


Simulation Hypothesis: Living In The Matrix? Tech Billionaires Funding Research To Get Out

Tech billionaires’ latest obsession — outside of suing websites into oblivion and attending odd, expensive festivals in the desert — is apparently one that gripped the country in 1999.

more…


Its a shame the matrix still makes people need money and health

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Date: 9/10/2016 04:22:42
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 965951
Subject: re: Living In The Matrix

CrazyNeutrino said:


Simulation Hypothesis: Living In The Matrix? Tech Billionaires Funding Research To Get Out

Tech billionaires’ latest obsession — outside of suing websites into oblivion and attending odd, expensive festivals in the desert — is apparently one that gripped the country in 1999.

more…

“The strongest argument for us being in a simulation, probably being in a simulation is the following: 40 years ago, we had pong, two rectangles and a dot. That is what games were. Now 40 years later we have photorealistic 3D simulations with millions of people playing simultaneously and it’s getting better every year. And soon we’ll have virtual reality, augmented reality, if you assume any rate of improvement at all, the games will become indistinguishable from reality.”

The strongest argument against us being in “The Matrix” is that humans make lousy batteries. Good luck in figuring out a way to break us out of the virtual reality world.

The origins of this concept go way back, to Plato and perhaps beyond.

“While people dream, they usually do not realize they are dreaming (if they do, it is called a lucid dream). This has led philosophers to wonder whether one could actually be dreaming constantly, instead of being in waking reality (or at least that one cannot be certain, at any given point in time, that one is not dreaming). In the West, this philosophical puzzle was referred to by Plato (Theaetetus 158b-d) and Aristotle (Metaphysics 1011a6). Having received serious attention in René Descartes’ Meditations on First Philosophy, the dream argument has become one of the most prominent skeptical hypotheses which clearly has an archetype in elements of Plato’s Allegory of the Cave also.”

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Date: 9/10/2016 04:39:17
From: btm
ID: 965953
Subject: re: Living In The Matrix

See also the 1973 Fassbinder film World on a Wire, in which it’s discovered that the world we live in is a computer simulation.

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Date: 9/10/2016 09:03:29
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 965986
Subject: re: Living In The Matrix

“This idea more or less originated with a 2003 paper by British philosopher Nicholas Bostrom”

I don’t know when this idea originated, but I’m pretty damn sure it was way before 2003.

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Date: 9/10/2016 09:29:15
From: dv
ID: 965996
Subject: re: Living In The Matrix

The Rev Dodgson said:


“This idea more or less originated with a 2003 paper by British philosopher Nicholas Bostrom”

I don’t know when this idea originated, but I’m pretty damn sure it was way before 2003.

It is fundamentally ancient.

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Date: 9/10/2016 09:33:52
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 965998
Subject: re: Living In The Matrix

they probably he was one of the first to develop it to the extent he did. he has a good webpage devoted to this argment and others, plus refutations and counter-refutations.

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Date: 9/10/2016 09:35:42
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 965999
Subject: re: Living In The Matrix

dv said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

“This idea more or less originated with a 2003 paper by British philosopher Nicholas Bostrom”

I don’t know when this idea originated, but I’m pretty damn sure it was way before 2003.

It is fundamentally ancient.

There is a difference between pondering whether reality is an illusion and explicitly stating that reality is a simulation within a computer program.

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Date: 9/10/2016 09:42:59
From: dv
ID: 966000
Subject: re: Living In The Matrix

ChrispenEvan said:


they probably he was one of the first to develop it to the extent he did. he has a good webpage devoted to this argment and others, plus refutations and counter-refutations.

Sounds like something I must not fail to miss.

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Date: 9/10/2016 09:59:58
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 966001
Subject: re: Living In The Matrix

Nick Bostrom

He has written quite a bit about various topics.

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