Consciousness could be a side effect of ‘entropy’, say researchers

It’s impressive enough that our human brains are made up of the same ‘star stuff’ that forms the Universe, but new research suggests that this might not be the only thing the two have in common.

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CrazyNeutrino said:

Consciousness could be a side effect of ‘entropy’, say researchers

It’s impressive enough that our human brains are made up of the same ‘star stuff’ that forms the Universe, but new research suggests that this might not be the only thing the two have in common.

More…

I’m afraid that an ‘science’ article which starts off with the phrase “It’s impressive enough that our human brains are made up of the same ‘star stuff’ that forms the Universe” is never going to be read by me.

I actually opened up the article just to be sure that it was the opening.

facepalm

article doesn’t really say much, but I didn’t read the links on the page

it (consciousness) certainly would have come about because of and involve energy gradients, if you will.

one of the most obvious clocks for laying down order is solar cycles. Day/night cycles, there are seasonal cycles too.

it’s interesting that in the wake of cosmic expansion there are millions of accretions in progress.

in some way human exploitation of pockets of energy (oil,coal etc, that has made our proliferation possible) is an example (on the earth and within its gas envelope) of that negentropic (increasing order/complexity) and humans burn those concentrations of carbon and distribute it (entropic, locally, within the earth’s envelope).

fortunately earth is blessed with a neat hydrological cycle, the right minerals etc, these wash around (massive random events generator), settle out etc and the order/ing of replicators was happened upon.

are there hints of this involved in (that drove) abiogenesis in consciousness. I’d say very likely.

sibeen said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

Consciousness could be a side effect of ‘entropy’, say researchers

It’s impressive enough that our human brains are made up of the same ‘star stuff’ that forms the Universe, but new research suggests that this might not be the only thing the two have in common.

More…

I’m afraid that an ‘science’ article which starts off with the phrase “It’s impressive enough that our human brains are made up of the same ‘star stuff’ that forms the Universe” is never going to be read by me.

I actually opened up the article just to be sure that it was the opening.

facepalm

Should have followed sibeen’s lead.

Still, on the bright side, I only wasted 30 seconds reading absolute bullshit.

….are there hints of this involved in (that drove) abiogenesis in consciousness. I’d say very likely.

rewrit….are there hints of this involved in (that drove) abiogenesis and evolution, in consciousness?. I’d say very likely.

evolution is in a way ‘a consciousness’ of sorts humans evolved from (within really, in a sense).

it’s adaptive, and responsive that way.

how in the human does this work, the creature of culture, of learning, that builds lots of stuff. The gifted species with the big kit of mindtools.

what happened, what accident?

that hop to a home in the head, some power over the internal environment, being able to seefeel it, awareness of, some control over.

somewhat paradoxically it’s a more local awareness than a rabbit digging a warren and knowing the warren.

So when we die perhaps our consciousness goes to a lower energy never able to interact with the living.

PeterT Ministries peak theological think tank is currently investigating where our immortal being resides in the body.
One school of thought is that it dosent reside in the brain or the heart but in the sphincter and that upon death it is placed in a suppository until the universe’s evolutionary process is completed upon which the ass soul will be reserectumed.

the point of the soul concept, in-part, I guess, is an effort by the nasty species to be gracious about each individuals time in existence.

there is something that might be called soul, related consciousness, it resides in but of others I suppose.

probably in its simplist form it’s that one might credit another with an internal world, or mental states.

perhaps even health (want and respect for).

me, i’d explain it in terms of homeostasis, the mechanisms involved maybe.

the mysteries of. Lot’s done without any thought, or much effort, some otherwise.