Just contemplating sanctions imposed on developed countries like Russia.
Do they really work or are they just international imposed tariffs?
Russians are now more likely to buy home made goods, this improves job prospects and local industrial development of home grown products which is good for development.
Sanctions on poor busted arsed countries on the other hand will work.
Generally they don’t work. They tend to impact the poor marginalised sections of society hardest. If they don’t have a means to effect change through peaceful means then no, it won’t work. The elites will hoard resources unto themselves and let the poor suffer.
Maybe the hope is to trigger a popular uprising…
One of Obama’s greatest successes was the lifting of the sanctions against Cuba.
The USA relies on Russia for a lot of its technology.
mollwollfumble said:
The USA relies on Russia for a lot of its technology.
No.
Peak Warming Man said:
Just contemplating sanctions imposed on developed countries like Russia.
Do they really work or are they just international imposed tariffs?Russians are now more likely to buy home made goods, this improves job prospects and local industrial development of home grown products which is good for development.
Sanctions on poor busted arsed countries on the other hand will work.
Russia is bleeding out the arse due to the sanctions, unable to break out of its ongoing financial crises, a recession that has run for 18 months, and a flight of capital.
Has it “worked”? Well, Russia is still occupying parts of the Ukraine so I guess not. The fact is that Russia is not all that developed and it’s oligarchs can expect to ride this out.
dv said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Just contemplating sanctions imposed on developed countries like Russia.
Do they really work or are they just international imposed tariffs?Russians are now more likely to buy home made goods, this improves job prospects and local industrial development of home grown products which is good for development.
Sanctions on poor busted arsed countries on the other hand will work.
Russia is bleeding out the arse due to the sanctions, unable to break out of its ongoing financial crises, a recession that has run for 18 months, and a flight of capital.
Has it “worked”? Well, Russia is still occupying parts of the Ukraine so I guess not. The fact is that Russia is not all that developed and it’s oligarchs can expect to ride this out.
Russians aren’t accustomed to democracy and its various perks. Having a “strong leader” is still more important to many than having regular food on the table. As long as the vodka flows, they’re happy.
mollwollfumble said:
One of Obama’s greatest successes was the lifting of the sanctions against Cuba.The USA relies on Russia for a lot of its technology.
What?
dv said:
mollwollfumble said:
One of Obama’s greatest successes was the lifting of the sanctions against Cuba.The USA relies on Russia for a lot of its technology.
What?
Maybe he was being sarcastic, but I fear not.
Bubblecar said:
dv said:
mollwollfumble said:
One of Obama’s greatest successes was the lifting of the sanctions against Cuba.The USA relies on Russia for a lot of its technology.
What?
Maybe he was being sarcastic, but I fear not.
They are reliant on the Russian manned space capacity but that is about it
Bubblecar said:
mollwollfumble said:
The USA relies on Russia for a lot of its technology.
No.
No, Israel OTOH.
Bubblecar said:
mollwollfumble said:
The USA relies on Russia for a lot of its technology.
No.
perhaps it was a jibe at the email hackings claims during the election campaign.
I have known Moll to crack a joke or two occasionally.
Fixed…
I would have thought that the strong possibility exists for sanctions to completely backfire and make the sanctioned nation even more aggressive as its angry its being punished for something it doesn’t have a problem with. Plus it could get desperate enough to start a war to gain resources its being denied.
Cymek said:
I would have thought that the strong possibility exists for sanctions to completely backfire and make the sanctioned nation even more aggressive as its angry its being punished for something it doesn’t have a problem with. Plus it could get desperate enough to start a war to gain resources its being denied.
A nation that is not self-sufficient in food and other vital commodities like oil might get aggressive. Japan in the late 1930s interpreted a US embargo as the prelude to war.
Russia can do without Mercedes-Benzs and whatnot.
Cymek said:
I would have thought that the strong possibility exists for sanctions to completely backfire and make the sanctioned nation even more aggressive as its angry its being punished for something it doesn’t have a problem with. Plus it could get desperate enough to start a war to gain resources its being denied.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Cymek said:
I would have thought that the strong possibility exists for sanctions to completely backfire and make the sanctioned nation even more aggressive as its angry its being punished for something it doesn’t have a problem with. Plus it could get desperate enough to start a war to gain resources its being denied.
A nation that is not self-sufficient in food and other vital commodities like oil might get aggressive. Japan in the late 1930s interpreted a US embargo as the prelude to war.
Russia can do without Mercedes-Benzs and whatnot.