Skillful cockatoos filmed making the same tool from different materials
Researchers from the University of Veterinary Medicine in Vienna and the University of Oxford have shown that Goffin’s cockatoos can make and use elongated tools of appropriate shape and length out of different materials, suggesting that the birds can anticipate how the tools will be used.
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CrazyNeutrino said:
Skillful cockatoos filmed making the same tool from different materialsResearchers from the University of Veterinary Medicine in Vienna and the University of Oxford have shown that Goffin’s cockatoos can make and use elongated tools of appropriate shape and length out of different materials, suggesting that the birds can anticipate how the tools will be used.
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We have positioned ourselves next to God for so long that it must come as a great surprise to many that other creatures also lead meaningful lives.
I’d be more impressed if cockatoos filmed humans making tools…
furious said:
- We have positioned ourselves next to God for so long that it must come as a great surprise to many that other creatures also lead meaningful lives.
I’d be more impressed if cockatoos filmed humans making tools…
You reflect well our perceived unbridled superiority, coupled with a total lack of understanding.
You’re welcome…
PermeateFree said:
furious said:
- We have positioned ourselves next to God for so long that it must come as a great surprise to many that other creatures also lead meaningful lives.
I’d be more impressed if cockatoos filmed humans making tools…
You reflect well our perceived unbridled superiority, coupled with a total lack of understanding.
> Goffin’s cockatoo, which is native to Indonesia
Oh well, that explains it. That’s not a “real” cockatoo. ;-)
How may tool-using animals have been observed so far? Let’s see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tool_use_by_animals
Primates, Cetaceans, Elephants, Sea otters, Carnivores.
Woodpecker finches, Corvids, Warblers, Parrots, Egyptian vultures, Brown-headed nuthatches, Gulls, Owls
Cephalopods
Insects (ant, wasp)
Fish (wrasse, stingray, dameselfish, chiclid, archerfish, triggerfish)
Alligators and crocodiles.
mollwollfumble said:
PermeateFree said:
furious said:
- We have positioned ourselves next to God for so long that it must come as a great surprise to many that other creatures also lead meaningful lives.
I’d be more impressed if cockatoos filmed humans making tools…
You reflect well our perceived unbridled superiority, coupled with a total lack of understanding.
> Goffin’s cockatoo, which is native to Indonesia
Oh well, that explains it. That’s not a “real” cockatoo. ;-)
How may tool-using animals have been observed so far? Let’s see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tool_use_by_animals
Primates, Cetaceans, Elephants, Sea otters, Carnivores.
Woodpecker finches, Corvids, Warblers, Parrots, Egyptian vultures, Brown-headed nuthatches, Gulls, Owls
Cephalopods
Insects (ant, wasp)
Fish (wrasse, stingray, dameselfish, chiclid, archerfish, triggerfish)
Alligators and crocodiles.
What’s interesting is how they learn from each other and possibly us.
I could be wrong but one of ours cats looks like it is mimicking us when we turn the door handle to go outside, he stretches up and puts his paws on the handle when he wants to go out.
Cymek said:
mollwollfumble said:
PermeateFree said:You reflect well our perceived unbridled superiority, coupled with a total lack of understanding.
> Goffin’s cockatoo, which is native to Indonesia
Oh well, that explains it. That’s not a “real” cockatoo. ;-)
How may tool-using animals have been observed so far? Let’s see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tool_use_by_animals
Primates, Cetaceans, Elephants, Sea otters, Carnivores.
Woodpecker finches, Corvids, Warblers, Parrots, Egyptian vultures, Brown-headed nuthatches, Gulls, Owls
Cephalopods
Insects (ant, wasp)
Fish (wrasse, stingray, dameselfish, chiclid, archerfish, triggerfish)
Alligators and crocodiles.What’s interesting is how they learn from each other and possibly us.
I could be wrong but one of ours cats looks like it is mimicking us when we turn the door handle to go outside, he stretches up and puts his paws on the handle when he wants to go out.
my dog can open doors. she jumps up and pulls the handle down.. of course she can only do this with doors that open away from her, she hasn’t yet mastered how to pull a closed door towards her.
How may tool-using animals have been observed so far? Let’s see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tool_use_by_animals
Primates, Cetaceans, Elephants, Sea otters, Carnivores.
Woodpecker finches, Corvids, Warblers, Parrots, Egyptian vultures, Brown-headed nuthatches, Gulls, Owls
Cephalopods
Insects (ant, wasp)
Fish (wrasse, stingray, dameselfish, chiclid, archerfish, triggerfish)
Alligators and crocodiles.
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They don’t mention Cows
nest building impresses me, I reckon putting sticks and whatever in the right place (and maintance) that a bird’s half way there to qualifying.
Ian said:
How may tool-using animals have been observed so far? Let’s see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tool_use_by_animalsPrimates, Cetaceans, Elephants, Sea otters, Carnivores.
Woodpecker finches, Corvids, Warblers, Parrots, Egyptian vultures, Brown-headed nuthatches, Gulls, Owls
Cephalopods
Insects (ant, wasp)
Fish (wrasse, stingray, dameselfish, chiclid, archerfish, triggerfish)
Alligators and crocodiles.——
They don’t mention Cows
PermeateFree said:
Ian said:
How may tool-using animals have been observed so far? Let’s see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tool_use_by_animalsPrimates, Cetaceans, Elephants, Sea otters, Carnivores.
Woodpecker finches, Corvids, Warblers, Parrots, Egyptian vultures, Brown-headed nuthatches, Gulls, Owls
Cephalopods
Insects (ant, wasp)
Fish (wrasse, stingray, dameselfish, chiclid, archerfish, triggerfish)
Alligators and crocodiles.——
They don’t mention Cows
Ha!
Arabian stallion we had excelled at turning on tap over tub in the stable in spite of double safety systems..
Same with gates.
PermeateFree said:
Ian said:
How may tool-using animals have been observed so far? Let’s see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tool_use_by_animalsPrimates, Cetaceans, Elephants, Sea otters, Carnivores.
Woodpecker finches, Corvids, Warblers, Parrots, Egyptian vultures, Brown-headed nuthatches, Gulls, Owls
Cephalopods
Insects (ant, wasp)
Fish (wrasse, stingray, dameselfish, chiclid, archerfish, triggerfish)
Alligators and crocodiles.——
They don’t mention Cows
Wow, I didn’t know that.
mollwollfumble said:
PermeateFree said:
Ian said:
How may tool-using animals have been observed so far? Let’s see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tool_use_by_animalsPrimates, Cetaceans, Elephants, Sea otters, Carnivores.
Woodpecker finches, Corvids, Warblers, Parrots, Egyptian vultures, Brown-headed nuthatches, Gulls, Owls
Cephalopods
Insects (ant, wasp)
Fish (wrasse, stingray, dameselfish, chiclid, archerfish, triggerfish)
Alligators and crocodiles.——
They don’t mention Cows
Wow, I didn’t know that.
Just don’t give then guns.
the set of tool making animals is much narrow than the set of tool using animals
dv said:
the set of tool making animals is much narrow than the set of tool using animals
PermeateFree said:
dv said:
the set of tool making animals is much narrow than the set of tool using animals
PermeateFree said:
dv said:
the set of tool making animals is much narrow than the set of tool using animals
Seen it before, worth watching the whole thing. That animal is amazing.
the orangs at the zoo are not longer allowed to have crates for behaviour enrichment. This follows the day that one of them managed to convince (somehow) the others to hurl their crates into their enclosure so they could make a ladder to climb out.
(All orangs are solitary, one male who has a harem, but live and nest in single trees over a large area. So the enclosures at the zoo mimic this )
it’s no secret that orang’s are excellent tool makers and users, but to have convincing communication skills is another step
Maybe it just told bad jokes…
furious said:
- but to have convincing communication skills is another step
Maybe it just told bad jokes…
I should name it Boris?
Arts said:
furious said:
- but to have convincing communication skills is another step
Maybe it just told bad jokes…
I should name it Boris?
i saw that!
The thought had occurred…
Arts said:
the orangs at the zoo are not longer allowed to have crates for behaviour enrichment. This follows the day that one of them managed to convince (somehow) the others to hurl their crates into their enclosure so they could make a ladder to climb out.(All orangs are solitary, one male who has a harem, but live and nest in single trees over a large area. So the enclosures at the zoo mimic this )
it’s no secret that orang’s are excellent tool makers and users, but to have convincing communication skills is another step
They should try it again, but next time have a couple of HD video cameras and audio to record every minute of it. Might be a PhD in there.
Orangutans never struck me as being very bright.
Peak Warming Man said:
Orangutans never struck me as being very bright.
but did you make the effort to get to know them?
party_pants said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Orangutans never struck me as being very bright.
but did you make the effort to get to know them?
No, I’ve only ever seen them on TV.
Peak Warming Man said:
party_pants said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Orangutans never struck me as being very bright.
but did you make the effort to get to know them?
No, I’ve only ever seen them on TV.
what is your measure of ‘brightness’?
Peak Warming Man said:
Orangutans never struck me as being very bright.
They are just slow in movement and even then, not always.
Arts said:
Peak Warming Man said:
party_pants said:but did you make the effort to get to know them?
No, I’ve only ever seen them on TV.
what is your measure of ‘brightness’?
I’d give them say 2.27 on the PWM Brightness Scale with Humans on 10.
It’s a terrific scale, have a go, where would you put your dog?
Peak Warming Man said:
Orangutans never struck me as being very bright.
no, they are often a much duller shade of orange
Peak Warming Man said:
Arts said:
Peak Warming Man said:No, I’ve only ever seen them on TV.
what is your measure of ‘brightness’?
I’d give them say 2.27 on the PWM Brightness Scale with Humans on 10.
It’s a terrific scale, have a go, where would you put your dog?
based on the randomness of the scale I would say a 14