Date: 21/11/2016 00:34:19
From: Teleost
ID: 984167
Subject: One for Buffy/specs wearers

I have sadly reached the point in life where some assistance is required for the simple task of reading. That’s all good and well. I quite like being able to look over the top of my specs during meetings when someone says something silly.

What I don’t like is the continual on and off with the specs when I’m in the field. A ten station transect is an utter nightmare to make observations and then notes at three metre intervals. The optometrist tells me that as I have such a mild proscription, bifocals would be useless and a waste of money. I’m thinking that she probably doesn’t understand just how expensive fieldwork is.

Is it reasonably possible to build specs I don’t need to put on and take off at 30 second intervals? Given that my distance vision is fine, just how expensive is it likely to be to have a non focused lense with a reading pane? Should I just rebuild my data sheets in a larger font?

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Date: 21/11/2016 01:36:04
From: roughbarked
ID: 984168
Subject: re: One for Buffy/specs wearers

Teleost said:


I have sadly reached the point in life where some assistance is required for the simple task of reading. That’s all good and well. I quite like being able to look over the top of my specs during meetings when someone says something silly.

What I don’t like is the continual on and off with the specs when I’m in the field. A ten station transect is an utter nightmare to make observations and then notes at three metre intervals. The optometrist tells me that as I have such a mild proscription, bifocals would be useless and a waste of money. I’m thinking that she probably doesn’t understand just how expensive fieldwork is.

Is it reasonably possible to build specs I don’t need to put on and take off at 30 second intervals? Given that my distance vision is fine, just how expensive is it likely to be to have a non focused lense with a reading pane? Should I just rebuild my data sheets in a larger font?

For now it would seem cheaper to do the latter. Unless you find a magnifying cover for your lappy/notep[ad.

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Date: 21/11/2016 02:34:26
From: PermeateFree
ID: 984169
Subject: re: One for Buffy/specs wearers

Teleost said:


I have sadly reached the point in life where some assistance is required for the simple task of reading. That’s all good and well. I quite like being able to look over the top of my specs during meetings when someone says something silly.

What I don’t like is the continual on and off with the specs when I’m in the field. A ten station transect is an utter nightmare to make observations and then notes at three metre intervals. The optometrist tells me that as I have such a mild proscription, bifocals would be useless and a waste of money. I’m thinking that she probably doesn’t understand just how expensive fieldwork is.

Is it reasonably possible to build specs I don’t need to put on and take off at 30 second intervals? Given that my distance vision is fine, just how expensive is it likely to be to have a non focused lense with a reading pane? Should I just rebuild my data sheets in a larger font?

Something like this might do the job. They are reasonably cheap and come in various magnifications.
https://www.dreamstime.com/stock-photo-jeweler-s-magnifying-lens-repair-jewelers-head-worn-loupe-making-inspecting-jewelry-image55163551

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Date: 21/11/2016 03:06:31
From: roughbarked
ID: 984170
Subject: re: One for Buffy/specs wearers

PermeateFree said:


Teleost said:

I have sadly reached the point in life where some assistance is required for the simple task of reading. That’s all good and well. I quite like being able to look over the top of my specs during meetings when someone says something silly.

What I don’t like is the continual on and off with the specs when I’m in the field. A ten station transect is an utter nightmare to make observations and then notes at three metre intervals. The optometrist tells me that as I have such a mild proscription, bifocals would be useless and a waste of money. I’m thinking that she probably doesn’t understand just how expensive fieldwork is.

Is it reasonably possible to build specs I don’t need to put on and take off at 30 second intervals? Given that my distance vision is fine, just how expensive is it likely to be to have a non focused lense with a reading pane? Should I just rebuild my data sheets in a larger font?

Something like this might do the job. They are reasonably cheap and come in various magnifications.
https://www.dreamstime.com/stock-photo-jeweler-s-magnifying-lens-repair-jewelers-head-worn-loupe-making-inspecting-jewelry-image55163551

In the field? too cumbersome and too easily broken.

I was thinking of something like this: http://www.officeworks.com.au/shop/officeworks/p/helix-a4-magnifying-sheet-ja0351830

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Date: 21/11/2016 03:11:14
From: PermeateFree
ID: 984172
Subject: re: One for Buffy/specs wearers

roughbarked said:


PermeateFree said:

Teleost said:

I have sadly reached the point in life where some assistance is required for the simple task of reading. That’s all good and well. I quite like being able to look over the top of my specs during meetings when someone says something silly.

What I don’t like is the continual on and off with the specs when I’m in the field. A ten station transect is an utter nightmare to make observations and then notes at three metre intervals. The optometrist tells me that as I have such a mild proscription, bifocals would be useless and a waste of money. I’m thinking that she probably doesn’t understand just how expensive fieldwork is.

Is it reasonably possible to build specs I don’t need to put on and take off at 30 second intervals? Given that my distance vision is fine, just how expensive is it likely to be to have a non focused lense with a reading pane? Should I just rebuild my data sheets in a larger font?

Something like this might do the job. They are reasonably cheap and come in various magnifications.
https://www.dreamstime.com/stock-photo-jeweler-s-magnifying-lens-repair-jewelers-head-worn-loupe-making-inspecting-jewelry-image55163551

In the field? too cumbersome and too easily broken.

I was thinking of something like this: http://www.officeworks.com.au/shop/officeworks/p/helix-a4-magnifying-sheet-ja0351830

They are neither cumbersome or easily broken. I have had one for years and it works very well.

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Date: 21/11/2016 03:14:30
From: roughbarked
ID: 984173
Subject: re: One for Buffy/specs wearers

PermeateFree said:


roughbarked said:

PermeateFree said:

Something like this might do the job. They are reasonably cheap and come in various magnifications.
https://www.dreamstime.com/stock-photo-jeweler-s-magnifying-lens-repair-jewelers-head-worn-loupe-making-inspecting-jewelry-image55163551

In the field? too cumbersome and too easily broken.

I was thinking of something like this: http://www.officeworks.com.au/shop/officeworks/p/helix-a4-magnifying-sheet-ja0351830

They are neither cumbersome or easily broken. I have had one for years and it works very well.

I happen to have used them a lot too.
For a start it is like a pair of spectacvles that you have to put on or take off. Then it is easy to knock them on things because they are a sticky out thing that you can’t actually see. They need to be packed away after each use as they are breakable plastic.

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Date: 21/11/2016 03:18:55
From: PermeateFree
ID: 984174
Subject: re: One for Buffy/specs wearers

roughbarked said:


PermeateFree said:

roughbarked said:

In the field? too cumbersome and too easily broken.

I was thinking of something like this: http://www.officeworks.com.au/shop/officeworks/p/helix-a4-magnifying-sheet-ja0351830

They are neither cumbersome or easily broken. I have had one for years and it works very well.

I happen to have used them a lot too.
For a start it is like a pair of spectacvles that you have to put on or take off. Then it is easy to knock them on things because they are a sticky out thing that you can’t actually see. They need to be packed away after each use as they are breakable plastic.

You just lift the lens up and if you are examining or taking notes they do not get in the way. Plus you just take them off and place them back in the cardboard box they came in. The beauty of these lens is your hands are free at all times.

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Date: 21/11/2016 03:24:43
From: PermeateFree
ID: 984175
Subject: re: One for Buffy/specs wearers

This is the brand I use.
http://www.doneganoptical.com/products/optivisor

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Date: 21/11/2016 03:32:15
From: roughbarked
ID: 984176
Subject: re: One for Buffy/specs wearers

PermeateFree said:


roughbarked said:

PermeateFree said:

They are neither cumbersome or easily broken. I have had one for years and it works very well.

I happen to have used them a lot too.
For a start it is like a pair of spectacvles that you have to put on or take off. Then it is easy to knock them on things because they are a sticky out thing that you can’t actually see. They need to be packed away after each use as they are breakable plastic.

You just lift the lens up and if you are examining or taking notes they do not get in the way. Plus you just take them off and place them back in the cardboard box they came in. The beauty of these lens is your hands are free at all times.

Yes. They are useful.

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Date: 21/11/2016 03:34:37
From: roughbarked
ID: 984177
Subject: re: One for Buffy/specs wearers

roughbarked said:


PermeateFree said:

roughbarked said:

I happen to have used them a lot too.
For a start it is like a pair of spectacvles that you have to put on or take off. Then it is easy to knock them on things because they are a sticky out thing that you can’t actually see. They need to be packed away after each use as they are breakable plastic.

You just lift the lens up and if you are examining or taking notes they do not get in the way. Plus you just take them off and place them back in the cardboard box they came in. The beauty of these lens is your hands are free at all times.

Yes. They are useful.

The ease of use may change if working in tangled bush. They are slippery when sweaty.

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Date: 21/11/2016 03:41:18
From: roughbarked
ID: 984178
Subject: re: One for Buffy/specs wearers

roughbarked said:


roughbarked said:

PermeateFree said:

You just lift the lens up and if you are examining or taking notes they do not get in the way. Plus you just take them off and place them back in the cardboard box they came in. The beauty of these lens is your hands are free at all times.

Yes. They are useful.

The ease of use may change if working in tangled bush. They are slippery when sweaty.

http://www.visionaustralia.org/living-with-low-vision/learning-to-live-independently/using-technology-and-computers/technology-overview/making-computers-easier-to-see

https://www.amazon.com/3x-Laptop-Screen-Magnifier-15-inch/dp/B00II3VL4K

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Date: 21/11/2016 04:13:49
From: Ogmog
ID: 984179
Subject: re: One for Buffy/specs wearers

Teleost said:


I have sadly reached the point in life where some assistance is required for the simple task of reading. That’s all good and well. I quite like being able to look over the top of my specs during meetings when someone says something silly.

What I don’t like is the continual on and off with the specs when I’m in the field. A ten station transect is an utter nightmare to make observations and then notes at three metre intervals. The optometrist tells me that as I have such a mild proscription, bifocals would be useless and a waste of money. I’m thinking that she probably doesn’t understand just how expensive fieldwork is.

Is it reasonably possible to build specs I don’t need to put on and take off at 30 second intervals? Given that my distance vision is fine, just how expensive is it likely to be to have a non focused lense with a reading pane? Should I just rebuild my data sheets in a larger font?


Clip-On FLIP-UP Lenses
That you clip onto your existing glasses
similar to Flip-Up SunGlasses you might have seen:
http://www.debspecs.com/Clip-Flip-Full-Reading-Glasses-150-TO-500-P2193.aspx

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Date: 21/11/2016 04:29:47
From: Ogmog
ID: 984180
Subject: re: One for Buffy/specs wearers

roughbarked said:


roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

Yes. They are useful.

The ease of use may change if working in tangled bush. They are slippery when sweaty.

http://www.visionaustralia.org/living-with-low-vision/learning-to-live-independently/using-technology-and-computers/technology-overview/making-computers-easier-to-see

https://www.amazon.com/3x-Laptop-Screen-Magnifier-15-inch/dp/B00II3VL4K


DESE 4 Roughie

https://www.steampunkgoggles.com/product/steampunk-anthropologist-goggles-with-magnifying-glasses/

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Date: 21/11/2016 07:29:20
From: buffy
ID: 984182
Subject: re: One for Buffy/specs wearers

Teleost….you need extended focus lenses. Your reading prescription in the bottom, and it grades out to less power at the top. Originally designed for computer users…..keyboard and screen at different distances. I use them a lot for even new reading glasses wearers. Better than a bifocal lens, no line. And also they function as training wheels for perhaps later needing a full multifocal if you ever need distance correction.

If you are really just at the very first level, probably around +1.00, then the bottom would be +1.00 and the top +0.25, so practically distance vision. They also come in a version with a higher difference, for later. When you are older….

I presently charge $200 for a pair of extended focus lenses. Then there is the frame as well. But you can fit the next pair, when you need an update, to the same frame if it’s a reasonable one. There are actually some over the counter extended focus too, although not exactly fashionable. I’ll find you a link to the brand.

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Date: 21/11/2016 07:35:28
From: roughbarked
ID: 984183
Subject: re: One for Buffy/specs wearers

buffy said:

Teleost….you need extended focus lenses. Your reading prescription in the bottom, and it grades out to less power at the top. Originally designed for computer users…..keyboard and screen at different distances. I use them a lot for even new reading glasses wearers. Better than a bifocal lens, no line. And also they function as training wheels for perhaps later needing a full multifocal if you ever need distance correction.

If you are really just at the very first level, probably around +1.00, then the bottom would be +1.00 and the top +0.25, so practically distance vision. They also come in a version with a higher difference, for later. When you are older….

I presently charge $200 for a pair of extended focus lenses. Then there is the frame as well. But you can fit the next pair, when you need an update, to the same frame if it’s a reasonable one. There are actually some over the counter extended focus too, although not exactly fashionable. I’ll find you a link to the brand.

and if your distance vision requires +1.5 for reading street signs and computer use requires +3, reading requires +4 and higher. Are there extended focus lenses for this?

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Date: 21/11/2016 07:35:48
From: buffy
ID: 984184
Subject: re: One for Buffy/specs wearers

Here…ask the optometrist about Eschenbach Miniframe 2. Might be suitable, without having to go custom made. But there is no choice in styles.

http://www.eschenbach.com/291265fa-5ffa-4084-9852-90e4a0e68709/products-reading-glasses-reading-detail.htm

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Date: 21/11/2016 07:37:18
From: buffy
ID: 984185
Subject: re: One for Buffy/specs wearers

roughbarked said:


buffy said:

Teleost….you need extended focus lenses. Your reading prescription in the bottom, and it grades out to less power at the top. Originally designed for computer users…..keyboard and screen at different distances. I use them a lot for even new reading glasses wearers. Better than a bifocal lens, no line. And also they function as training wheels for perhaps later needing a full multifocal if you ever need distance correction.

If you are really just at the very first level, probably around +1.00, then the bottom would be +1.00 and the top +0.25, so practically distance vision. They also come in a version with a higher difference, for later. When you are older….

I presently charge $200 for a pair of extended focus lenses. Then there is the frame as well. But you can fit the next pair, when you need an update, to the same frame if it’s a reasonable one. There are actually some over the counter extended focus too, although not exactly fashionable. I’ll find you a link to the brand.

and if your distance vision requires +1.5 for reading street signs and computer use requires +3, reading requires +4 and higher. Are there extended focus lenses for this?

Yes, but not off the shelf. At that point they are a full multifocal lens. And the +4.00D bit is better achieved with a head magnifier or a clip on. Or a jewellers loupe.

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Date: 21/11/2016 07:44:33
From: roughbarked
ID: 984187
Subject: re: One for Buffy/specs wearers

buffy said:


roughbarked said:

buffy said:

Teleost….you need extended focus lenses. Your reading prescription in the bottom, and it grades out to less power at the top. Originally designed for computer users…..keyboard and screen at different distances. I use them a lot for even new reading glasses wearers. Better than a bifocal lens, no line. And also they function as training wheels for perhaps later needing a full multifocal if you ever need distance correction.

If you are really just at the very first level, probably around +1.00, then the bottom would be +1.00 and the top +0.25, so practically distance vision. They also come in a version with a higher difference, for later. When you are older….

I presently charge $200 for a pair of extended focus lenses. Then there is the frame as well. But you can fit the next pair, when you need an update, to the same frame if it’s a reasonable one. There are actually some over the counter extended focus too, although not exactly fashionable. I’ll find you a link to the brand.

and if your distance vision requires +1.5 for reading street signs and computer use requires +3, reading requires +4 and higher. Are there extended focus lenses for this?

Yes, but not off the shelf. At that point they are a full multifocal lens. And the +4.00D bit is better achieved with a head magnifier or a clip on. Or a jewellers loupe.

Thanks. Yes, I use various magnification for the smaller stuff. Starting to need +15 for the +12 stuff.

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Date: 21/11/2016 08:10:51
From: Tamb
ID: 984189
Subject: re: One for Buffy/specs wearers

roughbarked said:


buffy said:

roughbarked said:

and if your distance vision requires +1.5 for reading street signs and computer use requires +3, reading requires +4 and higher. Are there extended focus lenses for this?

Yes, but not off the shelf. At that point they are a full multifocal lens. And the +4.00D bit is better achieved with a head magnifier or a clip on. Or a jewellers loupe.
My case is a bit different but might be helpful.
I need mild distance specs, reading specs & as I suffer from glare I also need sunnies.
To make this simple I have a pair of Photochromic distance specs with small reading bifocal inserts in the bottom centre corners.

Thanks. Yes, I use various magnification for the smaller stuff. Starting to need +15 for the +12 stuff.

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Date: 21/11/2016 17:35:44
From: Dropbear
ID: 984453
Subject: re: One for Buffy/specs wearers

I read recently they’re developing morphing lenses that still adjust the focal length based on where you’re looking..

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Date: 21/11/2016 17:38:17
From: bucolic3401
ID: 984460
Subject: re: One for Buffy/specs wearers

From: buffy
ID: 984182
Subject: re: One for Buffy/specs wearers

Teleost….you need extended focus lenses. Your reading prescription in the bottom, and it grades out to less power at the top. Originally designed for computer users…..keyboard and screen at different distances. I use them a lot for even new reading glasses wearers. Better than a bifocal lens, no line. And also they function as training wheels for perhaps later needing a full multifocal if you ever need distance correction.

If you are really just at the very first level, probably around +1.00, then the bottom would be +1.00 and the top +0.25, so practically distance vision. They also come in a version with a higher difference, for later. When you are older….

I presently charge $200 for a pair of extended focus lenses. Then there is the frame as well. But you can fit the next pair, when you need an update, to the same frame if it’s a reasonable one. There are actually some over the counter extended focus too, although not exactly fashionable. I’ll find you a link to the brand

I have glasses of the extended focus type as recommended by buffy and can say they are excellent. Been using them for 15 years now, both clear and sunnies.

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Date: 21/11/2016 17:39:19
From: dv
ID: 984463
Subject: re: One for Buffy/specs wearers

Dropbear said:


I read recently they’re developing morphing lenses that still adjust the focal length based on where you’re looking..

That’s cool.

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Date: 21/11/2016 17:39:47
From: Cymek
ID: 984464
Subject: re: One for Buffy/specs wearers

Dropbear said:


I read recently they’re developing morphing lenses that still adjust the focal length based on where you’re looking..

Yes I read that as well or something similar contact lenses that can zoom in

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Date: 21/11/2016 17:41:12
From: Dropbear
ID: 984465
Subject: re: One for Buffy/specs wearers

dv said:


Dropbear said:

I read recently they’re developing morphing lenses that still adjust the focal length based on where you’re looking..

That’s cool.

Quite

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Date: 21/11/2016 18:49:20
From: buffy
ID: 984500
Subject: re: One for Buffy/specs wearers

dv said:


Dropbear said:

I read recently they’re developing morphing lenses that still adjust the focal length based on where you’re looking..

That’s cool.

And probably not in our lifetime. Very, very difficult to get the lenses to read your mind…

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Date: 21/11/2016 18:51:26
From: AwesomeO
ID: 984502
Subject: re: One for Buffy/specs wearers

buffy said:


dv said:

Dropbear said:

I read recently they’re developing morphing lenses that still adjust the focal length based on where you’re looking..

That’s cool.

And probably not in our lifetime. Very, very difficult to get the lenses to read your mind…

I can see how you could do it, they can already detect what you are looking at, add laser rangefinder and a pizo lens.

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Date: 21/11/2016 18:54:15
From: roughbarked
ID: 984503
Subject: re: One for Buffy/specs wearers

buffy said:


dv said:

Dropbear said:

I read recently they’re developing morphing lenses that still adjust the focal length based on where you’re looking..

That’s cool.

And probably not in our lifetime. Very, very difficult to get the lenses to read your mind…

They have new gold tattoos that can send signals to the phone. maybe soon to lenses?

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Date: 21/11/2016 18:55:10
From: buffy
ID: 984504
Subject: re: One for Buffy/specs wearers

AwesomeO said:


buffy said:

dv said:

That’s cool.

And probably not in our lifetime. Very, very difficult to get the lenses to read your mind…

I can see how you could do it, they can already detect what you are looking at, add laser rangefinder and a pizo lens.

Think about it. They can’t actually detect what you are looking at, but which direction you are looking, and then make a guess if you want to focus at 1m, 10m, 50m etc. Where you point your eyes doesn’t tell the lens if you want to look at a close object or a far object.

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Date: 21/11/2016 20:58:58
From: Dropbear
ID: 984574
Subject: re: One for Buffy/specs wearers

buffy said:


dv said:

Dropbear said:

I read recently they’re developing morphing lenses that still adjust the focal length based on where you’re looking..

That’s cool.

And probably not in our lifetime. Very, very difficult to get the lenses to read your mind…

Seriously?? Wow

Ok

For the record it doesnt read your mind, it looks at your eye and works out what your figuring from that

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Date: 21/11/2016 21:02:30
From: Dropbear
ID: 984576
Subject: re: One for Buffy/specs wearers

Dropbear said:


buffy said:

dv said:

That’s cool.

And probably not in our lifetime. Very, very difficult to get the lenses to read your mind…

Seriously?? Wow

Ok

For the record it doesnt read your mind, it looks at your eye and works out what your figuring from that

*focusing on

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Date: 21/11/2016 21:04:10
From: Dropbear
ID: 984577
Subject: re: One for Buffy/specs wearers

http://newatlas.com/go/5516/

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Date: 21/11/2016 21:20:32
From: buffy
ID: 984578
Subject: re: One for Buffy/specs wearers

Dropbear said:


http://newatlas.com/go/5516/

They aren’t moving very fast with that…that item is 10 years old.

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Date: 21/11/2016 21:34:07
From: buffy
ID: 984584
Subject: re: One for Buffy/specs wearers

Try something a bit more up to date:

https://www.technologyreview.com/s/600963/eyeglasses-that-can-focus-themselves-are-on-the-way/

If it is working out what distance you are looking at by measuring inter pupillary distance, the pair of glasses is going to have to be very carefully calibrated to the individual.

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Date: 22/11/2016 11:37:32
From: Cymek
ID: 984774
Subject: re: One for Buffy/specs wearers

buffy said:

Try something a bit more up to date:

https://www.technologyreview.com/s/600963/eyeglasses-that-can-focus-themselves-are-on-the-way/

If it is working out what distance you are looking at by measuring inter pupillary distance, the pair of glasses is going to have to be very carefully calibrated to the individual.

What about something similar to the terminator vision were it overlays information onto whatever you are looking at and when you focus on an object it zooms in on it, this is assuming the human brain could cope with such sensory input.

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