Date: 21/11/2016 13:55:25
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 984345
Subject: Where will we be in 60 years

New Scientist predicts:

Super intelligence

Mars Colony

Population bomb

Free energy

World War III

That’s what they predicted in 1956 anyway.

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Date: 21/11/2016 13:59:03
From: Tamb
ID: 984346
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

The Rev Dodgson said:


New Scientist predicts:

Super intelligence

Mars Colony

Population bomb

Free energy

World War III

That’s what they predicted in 1956 anyway.


Super intelligence if you count computers then yes.

Mars Colony. Mars visit so, close

Population bomb. Yes 100% right

Free energy The NASA engine?

World War III Getting closer. Or civil war in Europe at least.

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Date: 21/11/2016 14:04:01
From: PermeateFree
ID: 984347
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

The Rev Dodgson said:


New Scientist predicts:

Super intelligence

Mars Colony

Population bomb

Free energy

World War III

That’s what they predicted in 1956 anyway.

They say pushing up daisies is honest work.

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Date: 21/11/2016 14:06:17
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 984348
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

Tamb said:

World War III Getting closer. Or civil war in Europe at least.

What would cause a civil war in Europe? Russian aggression?

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Date: 21/11/2016 14:06:24
From: PermeateFree
ID: 984349
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

Tamb said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

New Scientist predicts:

Super intelligence

Mars Colony

Population bomb

Free energy

World War III

That’s what they predicted in 1956 anyway.


Super intelligence if you count computers then yes.

Mars Colony. Mars visit so, close

Population bomb. Yes 100% right

Free energy The NASA engine?

World War III Getting closer. Or civil war in Europe at least.

Good chance it will be getting uncomfortably hot by then.

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Date: 21/11/2016 14:06:50
From: Tamb
ID: 984350
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

PermeateFree said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

New Scientist predicts:

Super intelligence

Mars Colony

Population bomb

Free energy

World War III

That’s what they predicted in 1956 anyway.

They say pushing up daisies is honest work.


It’s easier if you’ve been cremated.

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Date: 21/11/2016 14:07:25
From: Tamb
ID: 984351
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

Witty Rejoinder said:


Tamb said:

World War III Getting closer. Or civil war in Europe at least.

What would cause a civil war in Europe? Russian aggression?


Millions of refugees.

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Date: 21/11/2016 14:08:16
From: PermeateFree
ID: 984352
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

Witty Rejoinder said:


Tamb said:

World War III Getting closer. Or civil war in Europe at least.

What would cause a civil war in Europe? Russian aggression?

Immigration more likely.

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Date: 21/11/2016 14:09:55
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 984353
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

It’ll be a world wide Caliphate based on Sharia law where the only entertainment will be the stonings after Friday prayers.

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Date: 21/11/2016 14:12:51
From: Tamb
ID: 984354
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

Peak Warming Man said:


It’ll be a world wide Caliphate based on Sharia law where the only entertainment will be the stonings after Friday prayers.

Good trade for false beard sellers.

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Date: 21/11/2016 14:13:52
From: diddly-squat
ID: 984356
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

I can’t us having a manned base on Mars in 60 years time..

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Date: 21/11/2016 14:14:17
From: PermeateFree
ID: 984357
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

Tamb said:


PermeateFree said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

New Scientist predicts:

Super intelligence

Mars Colony

Population bomb

Free energy

World War III

That’s what they predicted in 1956 anyway.

They say pushing up daisies is honest work.


It’s easier if you’ve been cremated.

True, all the cemeteries will probably be full by then and they will need the land to grow food.

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Date: 21/11/2016 14:22:31
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 984367
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

Peak Warming Man said:


It’ll be a world wide Caliphate based on Sharia law where the only entertainment will be the stonings after Friday prayers.

There will be all day prayers every day.

Women are led around in chains and must wear sunglasses over their burkas

Men are also forced to wear burkas and sunglasses as well.

No one is allowed to be happy.

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Date: 21/11/2016 14:24:11
From: PermeateFree
ID: 984368
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

CrazyNeutrino said:


Peak Warming Man said:

It’ll be a world wide Caliphate based on Sharia law where the only entertainment will be the stonings after Friday prayers.

There will be all day prayers every day.

Women are led around in chains and must wear sunglasses over their burkas

Men are also forced to wear burkas and sunglasses as well.

No one is allowed to be happy.

I sound like you are already there Crazy.

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Date: 21/11/2016 14:26:33
From: Cymek
ID: 984369
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

CrazyNeutrino said:


Peak Warming Man said:

It’ll be a world wide Caliphate based on Sharia law where the only entertainment will be the stonings after Friday prayers.

There will be all day prayers every day.

Women are led around in chains and must wear sunglasses over their burkas

Men are also forced to wear burkas and sunglasses as well.

No one is allowed to be happy.

The Muslim world wouldn’t stand a chance of instigating Sharia law worldwide.

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Date: 21/11/2016 14:33:52
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 984370
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

Cymek said:


CrazyNeutrino said:

Peak Warming Man said:

It’ll be a world wide Caliphate based on Sharia law where the only entertainment will be the stonings after Friday prayers.

There will be all day prayers every day.

Women are led around in chains and must wear sunglasses over their burkas

Men are also forced to wear burkas and sunglasses as well.

No one is allowed to be happy.

The Muslim world wouldn’t stand a chance of instigating Sharia law worldwide.

It would be good to see religious reform.

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Date: 21/11/2016 14:46:31
From: sibeen
ID: 984372
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lm5tsUjYVjk

Where will we be in fifty years – Uncanny Xmen.

I went to school with the lead singer :)

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Date: 21/11/2016 14:46:47
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 984373
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

CrazyNeutrino said:


Cymek said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

There will be all day prayers every day.

Women are led around in chains and must wear sunglasses over their burkas

Men are also forced to wear burkas and sunglasses as well.

No one is allowed to be happy.

The Muslim world wouldn’t stand a chance of instigating Sharia law worldwide.

Don’t worry there’ll still be lone wolf intellectuals in redoubts reading books and listening to corrupt music like Pat Boon and Doris Day.

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Date: 21/11/2016 15:04:03
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 984374
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

The Rev Dodgson said:


New Scientist predicts:

Super intelligence

Mars Colony

Population bomb

Free energy

World War III

That’s what they predicted in 1956 anyway.

If there is free energy then why have world war 3?

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Date: 21/11/2016 15:08:09
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 984375
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

CrazyNeutrino said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

New Scientist predicts:

Super intelligence

Mars Colony

Population bomb

Free energy

World War III

That’s what they predicted in 1956 anyway.

If there is free energy then why have world war 3?

Free energy is the only one on the list that is remotely near being correct.

But then we have always had free energy for more than 99% of our requirements, and that hasn’t stopped people fighting wars.

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Date: 21/11/2016 15:10:45
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 984376
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

I wonder how Earths resources will move around in the future?

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Date: 21/11/2016 15:14:35
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 984377
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

CrazyNeutrino said:


I wonder how Earths resources will move around in the future?

At about 30 km/s (relative to the Sun).

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Date: 21/11/2016 15:29:46
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 984378
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

CrazyNeutrino said:


I wonder how Earths resources will move around in the future?

Under the Caliphate there will be no need for resources other than those given by Allah.
Transport will be by mule or horse, trade of grain, animals and women will be done by sailing dhows and the greatest evil of modernity, electricity that is killing our planet, will no longer be required.

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Date: 21/11/2016 15:33:49
From: Tamb
ID: 984380
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

The Rev Dodgson said:


CrazyNeutrino said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

New Scientist predicts:

Super intelligence

Mars Colony

Population bomb

Free energy

World War III

That’s what they predicted in 1956 anyway.

If there is free energy then why have world war 3?

Free energy is the only one on the list that is remotely near being correct.

But then we have always had free energy for more than 99% of our requirements, and that hasn’t stopped people fighting wars.


Q: If there is free energy then why have world war 3?
Religion.

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Date: 21/11/2016 15:38:24
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 984381
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

Who knows the oldest power station in Australia?

No Googling

Or Binging

I didn’t (even though I have visited it).

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Date: 21/11/2016 15:39:39
From: sarahs mum
ID: 984383
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

The Rev Dodgson said:


Who knows the oldest power station in Australia?

No Googling

Or Binging

I didn’t (even though I have visited it).

launnie? the gorge?

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Date: 21/11/2016 15:41:14
From: Tamb
ID: 984384
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

The Rev Dodgson said:


Who knows the oldest power station in Australia?

No Googling

Or Binging

I didn’t (even though I have visited it).


It’s somewhere strange like Ipswich or Tamworth.

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Date: 21/11/2016 15:42:59
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 984385
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

sarahs mum said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Who knows the oldest power station in Australia?

No Googling

Or Binging

I didn’t (even though I have visited it).

launnie? the gorge?

That’s it. In 1895.

Tamb can decide if that counts as “somewhere strange” or not.

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Date: 21/11/2016 15:43:26
From: AwesomeO
ID: 984386
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

Tamb said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Who knows the oldest power station in Australia?

No Googling

Or Binging

I didn’t (even though I have visited it).


It’s somewhere strange like Ipswich or Tamworth.

Melbourne somewhere to run the trams?

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Date: 21/11/2016 15:46:55
From: Tamb
ID: 984388
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

The Rev Dodgson said:


sarahs mum said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Who knows the oldest power station in Australia?

No Googling

Or Binging

I didn’t (even though I have visited it).

launnie? the gorge?

That’s it. In 1895.

Tamb can decide if that counts as “somewhere strange” or not.


I meant somewhere unlikely i.e. not a capital city.
I was also mistaking it for the first electric street lighting which I think was also in Tassie.

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Date: 21/11/2016 15:49:36
From: sibeen
ID: 984389
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

The Rev Dodgson said:


Who knows the oldest power station in Australia?

No Googling

Or Binging

I didn’t (even though I have visited it).

Wallererang?

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Date: 21/11/2016 15:49:37
From: sibeen
ID: 984390
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

The Rev Dodgson said:


Who knows the oldest power station in Australia?

No Googling

Or Binging

I didn’t (even though I have visited it).

Wallererang?

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Date: 21/11/2016 15:50:53
From: diddly-squat
ID: 984391
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

CrazyNeutrino said:


I wonder how Earths resources will move around in the future?

continental drift

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Date: 21/11/2016 15:51:47
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 984392
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

CrazyNeutrino said:


I wonder how Earths resources will move around in the future?

I think societies need to keep a close watch on where resources end up in the future

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Date: 21/11/2016 15:52:03
From: diddly-squat
ID: 984393
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

The Rev Dodgson said:


Who knows the oldest power station in Australia?

No Googling

Or Binging

I didn’t (even though I have visited it).

Hazelwood ?

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Date: 21/11/2016 15:52:31
From: PermeateFree
ID: 984394
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

The next 60 years I think will be the most decisive for most living organisms since the Dinosaurs went extinct. International tensions are increasing and will continue to rise with the onslaught of mass movements of people seeking better living conditions. This movement will largely be due to increasing temperatures, rising population and considerably increased need to produce on a gigantic scale, cheap fuel, more food and equal access to water. These conditions will very likely increase the risk of war and of terrorists/rogue states gaining access to nuclear weapons, not to mention growing nations wishing to increase their standard of living and carve out a place for themselves. We are heading at speed to a concentration of problems of massive proportions.

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Date: 21/11/2016 15:52:59
From: diddly-squat
ID: 984395
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

diddly-squat said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Who knows the oldest power station in Australia?

No Googling

Or Binging

I didn’t (even though I have visited it).

Hazelwood ?

no.. Duck Reach…

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Date: 21/11/2016 15:54:09
From: diddly-squat
ID: 984397
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

diddly-squat said:


diddly-squat said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Who knows the oldest power station in Australia?

No Googling

Or Binging

I didn’t (even though I have visited it).

Hazelwood ?

no.. Duck Reach…

the hydro scheme in Tassy is probs almost as old as some of the posters here…

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Date: 21/11/2016 15:57:11
From: sarahs mum
ID: 984398
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

The Rev Dodgson said:


sarahs mum said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Who knows the oldest power station in Australia?

No Googling

Or Binging

I didn’t (even though I have visited it).

launnie? the gorge?

That’s it. In 1895.

Tamb can decide if that counts as “somewhere strange” or not.

There is a wonderful art residency that can be had in the gorge cottage.. one day I might think of a good proposal..

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Date: 21/11/2016 15:59:18
From: Tamb
ID: 984399
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

diddly-squat said:


diddly-squat said:

diddly-squat said:

Hazelwood ?

no.. Duck Reach…

the hydro scheme in Tassy is probs almost as old as some of the posters here…


My grandparents used to live in Hillside Crescent not far from the Gorge.

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Date: 21/11/2016 16:00:35
From: sarahs mum
ID: 984400
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

sarahs mum said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

sarahs mum said:

launnie? the gorge?

That’s it. In 1895.

Tamb can decide if that counts as “somewhere strange” or not.

There is a wonderful art residency that can be had in the gorge cottage.. one day I might think of a good proposal..

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Date: 21/11/2016 16:01:30
From: furious
ID: 984402
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

That is a disaster waiting to happen…

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Date: 21/11/2016 16:04:51
From: sarahs mum
ID: 984403
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

furious said:

  • https://travel.virginaustralia.com/sites/default/files/styles/hero_large/public/uploads/heroimages/930×431_launceston-for-everyone.jpg

That is a disaster waiting to happen…

It’s been there long enough..

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Date: 21/11/2016 16:05:30
From: esselte
ID: 984404
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

60 years from now we will all be riding War Rigs to the Gates of Valhalla!

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Date: 21/11/2016 16:10:48
From: furious
ID: 984405
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

My prediction is that most other predictions will be wrong…

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Date: 21/11/2016 16:12:03
From: Tamb
ID: 984406
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

furious said:

  • 60 years from now we will all be riding War Rigs to the Gates of Valhalla!

My prediction is that most other predictions will be wrong…


I’ll be dead.

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Date: 21/11/2016 16:21:25
From: dv
ID: 984407
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

The Rev Dodgson said:


New Scientist predicts:

Super intelligence

Mars Colony

Population bomb

Free energy

World War III

That’s what they predicted in 1956 anyway.

so … zero out of five

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Date: 21/11/2016 16:22:44
From: JudgeMental
ID: 984408
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

esselte said:

60 years from now we will all be riding War Rigs to the Gates of Valhalla!

war pigs would be cooler.

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Date: 21/11/2016 16:31:01
From: dv
ID: 984410
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

BTW TRD .. do you have a URL for this?

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Date: 21/11/2016 16:47:15
From: dv
ID: 984411
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

The Population Bomb was among the most spectacularly wrong predictions in history, as population growth rates tanked and food production growth rates soared, meaning the food per capita produced is at record highs. Rather than India being plunged into perpetual famine, we now live in the only part of history since the middle ages in which India has gone 50 years without a famine.

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Date: 21/11/2016 16:54:58
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 984412
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

Can religion reform itself in 60 years?

or will it take longer?

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Date: 21/11/2016 16:55:35
From: PermeateFree
ID: 984413
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

dv said:


The Population Bomb was among the most spectacularly wrong predictions in history, as population growth rates tanked and food production growth rates soared, meaning the food per capita produced is at record highs. Rather than India being plunged into perpetual famine, we now live in the only part of history since the middle ages in which India has gone 50 years without a famine.

>>The Population Bomb is a best-selling book written by Stanford University Professor Paul R. Ehrlich and his wife, Anne Ehrlich (who was uncredited), in 1968. It warned of the mass starvation of humans in the 1970s and 1980s due to overpopulation, as well as other major societal upheavals, and advocated immediate action to limit population growth.<<

As the projected human population will more than double the 1970/80 figures, your conclusions may need to be updated.

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Date: 21/11/2016 16:56:36
From: PermeateFree
ID: 984414
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

CrazyNeutrino said:


Can religion reform itself in 60 years?

or will it take longer?

For sure, there will be more people praying to God in 60 years.

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Date: 21/11/2016 16:58:39
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 984415
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

What will genetic engineering be like in 60 years?

CRISPR gene-editing tested in a person for the first time

The move by Chinese scientists could spark a biomedical duel between China and the United States.
more…

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Date: 21/11/2016 17:04:05
From: dv
ID: 984416
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

PermeateFree said:


dv said:

The Population Bomb was among the most spectacularly wrong predictions in history, as population growth rates tanked and food production growth rates soared, meaning the food per capita produced is at record highs. Rather than India being plunged into perpetual famine, we now live in the only part of history since the middle ages in which India has gone 50 years without a famine.

>>The Population Bomb is a best-selling book written by Stanford University Professor Paul R. Ehrlich and his wife, Anne Ehrlich (who was uncredited), in 1968. It warned of the mass starvation of humans in the 1970s and 1980s due to overpopulation, as well as other major societal upheavals, and advocated immediate action to limit population growth.<<

As the projected human population will more than double the 1970/80 figures, your conclusions may need to be updated.

What? How does that conflict in any way with my conclusions. Please read things more carefully in future, PF.

The Population Bomb’s predictions were that by the mid-1970s, population increases would result in mass global starvation. Instead, we’ve entered an era of unprecented food-security as food production growth has far outstripped, and continues to outstrip, population growth.

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Date: 21/11/2016 17:08:12
From: dv
ID: 984417
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

CrazyNeutrino said:


What will genetic engineering be like in 60 years?

CRISPR gene-editing tested in a person for the first time

The move by Chinese scientists could spark a biomedical duel between China and the United States.
more…

Recent political changes in the USA might give China the advantage there…

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Date: 21/11/2016 17:09:25
From: Dropbear
ID: 984418
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

Jesus Christi

Why do people think that converting 1KW of energy into 1 milinewton of force is “free energy”

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Date: 21/11/2016 17:10:12
From: Dropbear
ID: 984419
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

dv said:


CrazyNeutrino said:

What will genetic engineering be like in 60 years?

CRISPR gene-editing tested in a person for the first time

The move by Chinese scientists could spark a biomedical duel between China and the United States.
more…

Recent political changes in the USA might give China the advantage there…

Has something happened in the US recently?

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Date: 21/11/2016 17:11:27
From: dv
ID: 984421
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

Dropbear said:


dv said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

What will genetic engineering be like in 60 years?

CRISPR gene-editing tested in a person for the first time

The move by Chinese scientists could spark a biomedical duel between China and the United States.
more…

Recent political changes in the USA might give China the advantage there…

Has something happened in the US recently?

Maybe, I don’t follow the news much.

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Date: 21/11/2016 17:12:21
From: PermeateFree
ID: 984423
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

dv said:


PermeateFree said:

dv said:

The Population Bomb was among the most spectacularly wrong predictions in history, as population growth rates tanked and food production growth rates soared, meaning the food per capita produced is at record highs. Rather than India being plunged into perpetual famine, we now live in the only part of history since the middle ages in which India has gone 50 years without a famine.

>>The Population Bomb is a best-selling book written by Stanford University Professor Paul R. Ehrlich and his wife, Anne Ehrlich (who was uncredited), in 1968. It warned of the mass starvation of humans in the 1970s and 1980s due to overpopulation, as well as other major societal upheavals, and advocated immediate action to limit population growth.<<

As the projected human population will more than double the 1970/80 figures, your conclusions may need to be updated.

What? How does that conflict in any way with my conclusions. Please read things more carefully in future, PF.

The Population Bomb’s predictions were that by the mid-1970s, population increases would result in mass global starvation. Instead, we’ve entered an era of unprecented food-security as food production growth has far outstripped, and continues to outstrip, population growth.

Well dv lets get a few fact straight, one he got the timing wrong, but he did not have global warming breathing down his neck and two, there are a great many people who are currently starving to death, which would be considerably more, were it not be for international aid. Perhaps what you should have said, was the more wealthy countries are able to now grow more food, but that is allowing for good weather conditions and not impending droughts.

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Date: 21/11/2016 17:13:15
From: dv
ID: 984424
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

Dropbear said:


Jesus Christi

Why do people think that converting 1KW of energy into 1 milinewton of force is “free energy”

I’m going to predict that there is no possible development that will result in free energy, in a commercial sense. It would make no sense to charge nothing for energy, and even if stable fusion or any other method becomes easy, there will be costs associated with its production.

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Date: 21/11/2016 17:14:35
From: Dropbear
ID: 984426
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

dv said:


Dropbear said:

Jesus Christi

Why do people think that converting 1KW of energy into 1 milinewton of force is “free energy”

I’m going to predict that there is no possible development that will result in free energy, in a commercial sense. It would make no sense to charge nothing for energy, and even if stable fusion or any other method becomes easy, there will be costs associated with its production.

I was referring to Tamb’s use of NASA’s impossible drive as free energy

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Date: 21/11/2016 17:16:10
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 984427
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

The Rev Dodgson said:


New Scientist predicts:

Super intelligence

Mars Colony

Population bomb

Free energy

World War III

That’s what they predicted in 1956 anyway.

New Scientist began publication in Nov 1956. Which issue are you quoting?

The OP looks like a fake quote. The closest I’ve found is a reference this year to “The internet, global warming, artificial intelligence and genetic engineering were all on our radar in 1956.”

Apart from artificial intelligence, none of the topics mentioned there relate to any of the so-called predictions in the OP.

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Date: 21/11/2016 17:17:30
From: furious
ID: 984428
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

I have just scanned all editions from 1956 but can’t find any particular reference to these predictions. Though each of them uses the word “war” multiple times…

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Date: 21/11/2016 17:17:58
From: dv
ID: 984430
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

Here’s how wrong Ehrlich was:

After explaining the domestic policies the US should pursue, he discusses foreign policy. He advocates a system of “triage,” such as that suggested by William and Paul Paddock in Famine 1975!. Under this system countries would be divided into categories based on their abilities to feed themselves going forward. Countries with sufficient programmes in place to limit population growth, and the ability to become self-sufficient in the future would continue to receive food aid. Countries, for example India, which were “so far behind in the population-food game that there is no hope that our food aid will see them through to self-sufficiency” would have their food aid eliminated. Ehrlich argued that this was the only realistic strategy in the long-term. Ehrlich applauds the Paddocks’ “courage and foresight” in proposing such a solution. Ehrlich further discusses the need to set up public education programs and agricultural development schemes in developing countries. He argues that the scheme would likely have to be implemented outside the framework of the United Nations due to the necessity of being selective regarding the targeted regions and countries, and suggests that within countries certain regions should be prioritized to the extent that cooperative separatist movements should be encouraged if they are an improvement over the existing authority. He mentions his support for government mandated sterilization of Indian males with three or more children.

As of 2010, India had almost 1.2 billion people, having nearly tripled its population from around 400 million in 1960. India’s Total Fertility Rate in 2008 was calculated to be 2.6. While the absolute numbers of malnourished children in India is high, the rates of malnutrition and poverty in India have declined from approximately 90% at the time of India’s independence, to less than 40% today. Ehrlich’s prediction about famines were found to be false, although food security is an issue in India. However, most epidemiologists, public health physicians and demographers identify corruption as the chief cause of malnutrition, not “overpopulation”. As Nobel Prize–winning economist Amartya Sen noted, India frequently had famines during British colonial rule. However, when India became a democracy, there have been no recorded famines.

There was an agricultural revolution. Today, India is among the top five food exporting nations.

I would rank The Population Bomb as being among the big three spectacularly failed prominent predictions, along with The Domino Effect and the Peak Oil Crisis.

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Date: 21/11/2016 17:18:49
From: dv
ID: 984431
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

Dropbear said:


dv said:

Dropbear said:

Jesus Christi

Why do people think that converting 1KW of energy into 1 milinewton of force is “free energy”

I’m going to predict that there is no possible development that will result in free energy, in a commercial sense. It would make no sense to charge nothing for energy, and even if stable fusion or any other method becomes easy, there will be costs associated with its production.

I was referring to Tamb’s use of NASA’s impossible drive as free energy

Oh, fair enough.

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Date: 21/11/2016 17:20:31
From: Dropbear
ID: 984432
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

Stupid GM crops feeding all the Starvin Marvins

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Date: 21/11/2016 17:22:50
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 984433
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

dv said:


BTW TRD .. do you have a URL for this?

https://www.newscientist.com/issue/3100/

Don’t know how much you can see for free (but the op was based on the front cover).

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Date: 21/11/2016 17:23:57
From: PermeateFree
ID: 984434
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

dv said:


Here’s how wrong Ehrlich was:

After explaining the domestic policies the US should pursue, he discusses foreign policy. He advocates a system of “triage,” such as that suggested by William and Paul Paddock in Famine 1975!. Under this system countries would be divided into categories based on their abilities to feed themselves going forward. Countries with sufficient programmes in place to limit population growth, and the ability to become self-sufficient in the future would continue to receive food aid. Countries, for example India, which were “so far behind in the population-food game that there is no hope that our food aid will see them through to self-sufficiency” would have their food aid eliminated. Ehrlich argued that this was the only realistic strategy in the long-term. Ehrlich applauds the Paddocks’ “courage and foresight” in proposing such a solution. Ehrlich further discusses the need to set up public education programs and agricultural development schemes in developing countries. He argues that the scheme would likely have to be implemented outside the framework of the United Nations due to the necessity of being selective regarding the targeted regions and countries, and suggests that within countries certain regions should be prioritized to the extent that cooperative separatist movements should be encouraged if they are an improvement over the existing authority. He mentions his support for government mandated sterilization of Indian males with three or more children.

As of 2010, India had almost 1.2 billion people, having nearly tripled its population from around 400 million in 1960. India’s Total Fertility Rate in 2008 was calculated to be 2.6. While the absolute numbers of malnourished children in India is high, the rates of malnutrition and poverty in India have declined from approximately 90% at the time of India’s independence, to less than 40% today. Ehrlich’s prediction about famines were found to be false, although food security is an issue in India. However, most epidemiologists, public health physicians and demographers identify corruption as the chief cause of malnutrition, not “overpopulation”. As Nobel Prize–winning economist Amartya Sen noted, India frequently had famines during British colonial rule. However, when India became a democracy, there have been no recorded famines.

There was an agricultural revolution. Today, India is among the top five food exporting nations.

I would rank The Population Bomb as being among the big three spectacularly failed prominent predictions, along with The Domino Effect and the Peak Oil Crisis.

It is not over dv. Sure he was wrong, but you still have huge population growth, coupled with global warming that will effect food production, but you prefer to predict 60 years in the past instead of 60 years into the future.

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Date: 21/11/2016 17:24:03
From: Dropbear
ID: 984435
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

The Rev Dodgson said:


dv said:

BTW TRD .. do you have a URL for this?

https://www.newscientist.com/issue/3100/

Don’t know how much you can see for free (but the op was based on the front cover).

Front cover? Good enough for me.

I learned the Bible was holy that way.

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Date: 21/11/2016 17:24:32
From: dv
ID: 984436
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

The Rev Dodgson said:


dv said:

BTW TRD .. do you have a URL for this?

https://www.newscientist.com/issue/3100/

Don’t know how much you can see for free (but the op was based on the front cover).

But that is a 60th anniversary edition, and those predictions are being made now by NS for the next 60 years.

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Date: 21/11/2016 17:25:00
From: dv
ID: 984437
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

Dropbear said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

BTW TRD .. do you have a URL for this?

https://www.newscientist.com/issue/3100/

Don’t know how much you can see for free (but the op was based on the front cover).

Front cover? Good enough for me.

I learned the Bible was holy that way.

One of mine told me it is holy, and the other one says it is good news, so win win.

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Date: 21/11/2016 17:25:07
From: furious
ID: 984438
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

The front cover does not say those things were predicted in 1956…

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Date: 21/11/2016 17:25:37
From: JudgeMental
ID: 984439
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

dv said:


Dropbear said:

Jesus Christi

Why do people think that converting 1KW of energy into 1 milinewton of force is “free energy”

I’m going to predict that there is no possible development that will result in free energy, in a commercial sense. It would make no sense to charge nothing for energy, and even if stable fusion or any other method becomes easy, there will be costs associated with its production.

i’ve been saying that for the last 20 years…

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Date: 21/11/2016 17:28:45
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 984440
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

dv said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

BTW TRD .. do you have a URL for this?

https://www.newscientist.com/issue/3100/

Don’t know how much you can see for free (but the op was based on the front cover).

But that is a 60th anniversary edition, and those predictions are being made now by NS for the next 60 years.

Not how I read it, but anyway, all of the things on the list would have been predicted in 1956 for within 60 years by someone, if not NS.

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Date: 21/11/2016 17:30:32
From: dv
ID: 984441
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

The Rev Dodgson said:


dv said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

https://www.newscientist.com/issue/3100/

Don’t know how much you can see for free (but the op was based on the front cover).

But that is a 60th anniversary edition, and those predictions are being made now by NS for the next 60 years.

Not how I read it, but anyway, all of the things on the list would have been predicted in 1956 for within 60 years by someone, if not NS.

Still, FMRACMRA if NS is prediction a population bomb for the next 60 years.

Probably the magazine equivalent of clickbait.

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Date: 21/11/2016 17:31:09
From: Dropbear
ID: 984442
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

Fusion and artificial intelligence are far more elusive than active thought break then, but the ubiquitous nature of the internet and near universal access to the sun of human knowledge would be something that even as a teenager, I would not have predicted.

Damn that was a long sentence

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Date: 21/11/2016 17:31:39
From: furious
ID: 984443
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

With many mistakes…

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Date: 21/11/2016 17:31:56
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 984444
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

The Rev Dodgson said:


Not how I read it, but anyway, all of the things on the list would have been predicted in 1956 for within 60 years by someone, if not NS.

Having had a look past the front cover, it looks like I read it wrong.

Nonetheless, I still say all of those things were predicted for the next 60 years, 60 years ago.

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Date: 21/11/2016 17:32:21
From: JudgeMental
ID: 984445
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

FMRACMRA

fuck my rats and call me rowan atkinson?

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Date: 21/11/2016 17:32:29
From: Dropbear
ID: 984446
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

I’m 60 years time we could lose double digit percentage of the human population to antibiotic resistant bacteria..

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Date: 21/11/2016 17:33:06
From: PermeateFree
ID: 984447
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

The Rev Dodgson said:


dv said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

https://www.newscientist.com/issue/3100/

Don’t know how much you can see for free (but the op was based on the front cover).

But that is a 60th anniversary edition, and those predictions are being made now by NS for the next 60 years.

Not how I read it, but anyway, all of the things on the list would have been predicted in 1956 for within 60 years by someone, if not NS.

I have no doubt that in 60 years time, if we are still around, the original predictions will still be around. We often know things will happen, we just don’t know exactly when.

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Date: 21/11/2016 17:33:07
From: Dropbear
ID: 984448
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

furious said:

  • Damn that was a long sentence

With many mistakes…

Go ahead.. Im listening

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Date: 21/11/2016 17:33:13
From: JudgeMental
ID: 984449
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

Dropbear said:


I’m 60 years time we could lose double digit percentage of the human population to antibiotic resistant bacteria..

i’ve already lost one digit.

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Date: 21/11/2016 17:33:33
From: Dropbear
ID: 984450
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

JudgeMental said:


FMRACMRA

fuck my rats and call me rowan atkinson?

F me rotten and call me raggedy ann

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Date: 21/11/2016 17:34:43
From: JudgeMental
ID: 984451
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

Dropbear said:


JudgeMental said:

FMRACMRA

fuck my rats and call me rowan atkinson?

F me rotten and call me raggedy ann

i was close.

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Date: 21/11/2016 17:34:50
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 984452
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

dv said:


Still, FMRACMRA if NS is prediction a population bomb for the next 60 years.

Probably the magazine equivalent of clickbait.

We’ve discussed this before, but populations much greater than current projections within 60 years seems perfectly possible to me.

And since that would result in great adverse consequences, we should be doing much more to make sure it doesn’t happen.

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Date: 21/11/2016 17:37:25
From: dv
ID: 984456
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

Dropbear said:


I’m 60 years time we could lose double digit percentage of the human population to antibiotic resistant bacteria..

I think we’ve found our Santa Claus!

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Date: 21/11/2016 17:37:28
From: PermeateFree
ID: 984457
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

The Rev Dodgson said:


dv said:

Still, FMRACMRA if NS is prediction a population bomb for the next 60 years.

Probably the magazine equivalent of clickbait.

We’ve discussed this before, but populations much greater than current projections within 60 years seems perfectly possible to me.

And since that would result in great adverse consequences, we should be doing much more to make sure it doesn’t happen.

I think the problem is, people with young children do not want to think their children are facing a bleak future.

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Date: 21/11/2016 17:37:49
From: dv
ID: 984458
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

JudgeMental said:


Dropbear said:

JudgeMental said:

FMRACMRA

fuck my rats and call me rowan atkinson?

F me rotten and call me raggedy ann

i was close.

You were both pretty close

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Date: 21/11/2016 17:38:42
From: dv
ID: 984461
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

The Rev Dodgson said:


dv said:

Still, FMRACMRA if NS is prediction a population bomb for the next 60 years.

Probably the magazine equivalent of clickbait.

We’ve discussed this before, but populations much greater than current projections within 60 years seems perfectly possible to me.

And since that would result in great adverse consequences, we should be doing much more to make sure it doesn’t happen.

Fine but that doesn’t make it a sound prediction.

Populations much less than current projections also seem perfectly possible but that would also not be a sound prediction.

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Date: 21/11/2016 17:39:17
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 984462
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

PermeateFree said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

Still, FMRACMRA if NS is prediction a population bomb for the next 60 years.

Probably the magazine equivalent of clickbait.

We’ve discussed this before, but populations much greater than current projections within 60 years seems perfectly possible to me.

And since that would result in great adverse consequences, we should be doing much more to make sure it doesn’t happen.

I think the problem is, people with young children do not want to think their children are facing a bleak future.

I agree, a significant factor anyway.

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Date: 21/11/2016 17:41:14
From: bucolic3401
ID: 984466
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

Passed on, crossed over, deceased, gone home, like the parrot, dead.

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Date: 21/11/2016 17:41:44
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 984467
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

dv said:


Fine but that doesn’t make it a sound prediction.

Populations much less than current projections also seem perfectly possible but that would also not be a sound prediction.

I don’t think it makes any sense to make single value or narrow range predictions.

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Date: 21/11/2016 17:42:56
From: Cymek
ID: 984468
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

The Rev Dodgson said:


PermeateFree said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

We’ve discussed this before, but populations much greater than current projections within 60 years seems perfectly possible to me.

And since that would result in great adverse consequences, we should be doing much more to make sure it doesn’t happen.

I think the problem is, people with young children do not want to think their children are facing a bleak future.

I agree, a significant factor anyway.

I’ve got youngish children and don’t sugar coat what the future will probably be like
Personally I think this century will be the make or break of humanity, if we survive it hopefully we grow up and most of us have done away with the petty short-sightedness and think to the long term future of the human race

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Date: 21/11/2016 17:43:07
From: dv
ID: 984469
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

The Rev Dodgson said:


dv said:

Fine but that doesn’t make it a sound prediction.

Populations much less than current projections also seem perfectly possible but that would also not be a sound prediction.

I don’t think it makes any sense to make single value or narrow range predictions.

Well what does a prediction mean? Is anyone going to give me a gold star for predicting the next match in Adelaide will be a win for SA, a win for Aust, a draw or a tie?

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Date: 21/11/2016 17:44:44
From: diddly-squat
ID: 984471
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

dv said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

Fine but that doesn’t make it a sound prediction.

Populations much less than current projections also seem perfectly possible but that would also not be a sound prediction.

I don’t think it makes any sense to make single value or narrow range predictions.

Well what does a prediction mean? Is anyone going to give me a gold star for predicting the next match in Adelaide will be a win for SA, a win for Aust, a draw or a tie?

It could be abandoned …

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Date: 21/11/2016 17:44:51
From: PermeateFree
ID: 984472
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

dv said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

Fine but that doesn’t make it a sound prediction.

Populations much less than current projections also seem perfectly possible but that would also not be a sound prediction.

I don’t think it makes any sense to make single value or narrow range predictions.

Well what does a prediction mean? Is anyone going to give me a gold star for predicting the next match in Adelaide will be a win for SA, a win for Aust, a draw or a tie?

Is that for 60 years hence?

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Date: 21/11/2016 17:53:20
From: Michael V
ID: 984473
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

bucolic3401 said:


Passed on, crossed over, deceased, gone home, like the parrot, dead.
This, and much sooner than 60 years time for me.

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Date: 21/11/2016 17:56:26
From: Michael V
ID: 984475
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

dv said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

Fine but that doesn’t make it a sound prediction.

Populations much less than current projections also seem perfectly possible but that would also not be a sound prediction.

I don’t think it makes any sense to make single value or narrow range predictions.

Well what does a prediction mean? Is anyone going to give me a gold star for predicting the next match in Adelaide will be a win for SA, a win for Aust, a draw or a tie?

You almost got that right. “Is anyone” ——>“No-one is” would make it perfect.

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Date: 21/11/2016 17:57:21
From: JudgeMental
ID: 984478
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

Michael V said:


bucolic3401 said:

Passed on, crossed over, deceased, gone home, like the parrot, dead.
This, and much sooner than 60 years time for me.

i’ll probably get half way.

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Date: 21/11/2016 18:00:24
From: Dropbear
ID: 984482
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

JudgeMental said:


Michael V said:

bucolic3401 said:

Passed on, crossed over, deceased, gone home, like the parrot, dead.
This, and much sooner than 60 years time for me.

i’ll probably get half way.

LOL

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Date: 21/11/2016 18:05:55
From: PermeateFree
ID: 984484
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

JudgeMental said:


Michael V said:

bucolic3401 said:

Passed on, crossed over, deceased, gone home, like the parrot, dead.
This, and much sooner than 60 years time for me.

i’ll probably get half way.

Is that a sound, or unsound prediction?

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Date: 21/11/2016 18:06:51
From: JudgeMental
ID: 984486
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

PermeateFree said:


JudgeMental said:

Michael V said:

This, and much sooner than 60 years time for me.

i’ll probably get half way.

Is that a sound, or unsound prediction?

based on genetics.

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Date: 21/11/2016 18:26:43
From: roughbarked
ID: 984492
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

JudgeMental said:


PermeateFree said:

JudgeMental said:

i’ll probably get half way.

Is that a sound, or unsound prediction?

based on genetics.


http://www.seniorscard.nsw.gov.au/discounts/discount-directory

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Date: 21/11/2016 18:29:12
From: JudgeMental
ID: 984494
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

roughbarked said:


JudgeMental said:

PermeateFree said:

Is that a sound, or unsound prediction?

based on genetics.


http://www.seniorscard.nsw.gov.au/discounts/discount-directory

not much use to me over here.

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Date: 21/11/2016 18:37:36
From: roughbarked
ID: 984496
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

JudgeMental said:


roughbarked said:

JudgeMental said:

based on genetics.


http://www.seniorscard.nsw.gov.au/discounts/discount-directory

not much use to me over here.

You don’t have a WA branch?

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Date: 21/11/2016 18:40:24
From: Michael V
ID: 984497
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

JudgeMental said:


roughbarked said:

JudgeMental said:

based on genetics.


http://www.seniorscard.nsw.gov.au/discounts/discount-directory

not much use to me over here.

Nor me up here.

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Date: 21/11/2016 18:45:03
From: roughbarked
ID: 984498
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

Michael V said:


JudgeMental said:

roughbarked said:

http://www.seniorscard.nsw.gov.au/discounts/discount-directory

not much use to me over here.

Nor me up here.


https://www.seniorscard.wa.gov.au/Pages/default.aspx

The qld link doesn’t work.

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Date: 21/11/2016 18:46:53
From: roughbarked
ID: 984499
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

roughbarked said:


Michael V said:

JudgeMental said:

not much use to me over here.

Nor me up here.


https://www.seniorscard.wa.gov.au/Pages/default.aspx

The qld link doesn’t work.

https://www.qld.gov.au/seniors/legal-finance-concessions/applying-seniors-card/

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Date: 21/11/2016 18:58:31
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 984506
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

dv said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

Fine but that doesn’t make it a sound prediction.

Populations much less than current projections also seem perfectly possible but that would also not be a sound prediction.

I don’t think it makes any sense to make single value or narrow range predictions.

Well what does a prediction mean? Is anyone going to give me a gold star for predicting the next match in Adelaide will be a win for SA, a win for Aust, a draw or a tie?

In this context, it means considering the full range of possibilities, with an estimate of their probabilities, evaluating the associated risks, and the costs of reducing those risks, and taking action that will minimise the costs and maximise the benefits.

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Date: 21/11/2016 19:03:40
From: Bubblecar
ID: 984508
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

Brains in jars, that’s what we need, I’ve been saying it for years. Remove the living brains from aged and ailing bodies, put them in jars with reliable life support technology, plug them into VR machines.

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Date: 21/11/2016 19:06:47
From: Michael V
ID: 984512
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

roughbarked said:


roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

Nor me up here.


https://www.seniorscard.wa.gov.au/Pages/default.aspx

The qld link doesn’t work.

https://www.qld.gov.au/seniors/legal-finance-concessions/applying-seniors-card/

Ta.

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Date: 21/11/2016 19:16:30
From: SCIENCE
ID: 984518
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_constant

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xxx here!
http://xxx.lanl.gov/

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Date: 21/11/2016 19:19:35
From: Michael V
ID: 984520
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

roughbarked said:


roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

Nor me up here.


https://www.seniorscard.wa.gov.au/Pages/default.aspx

The qld link doesn’t work.

https://www.qld.gov.au/seniors/legal-finance-concessions/applying-seniors-card/

Turns out I have to be the holder of one of the below:

Which I am not.

:(

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Date: 21/11/2016 19:20:42
From: roughbarked
ID: 984522
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

Michael V said:


roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

https://www.seniorscard.wa.gov.au/Pages/default.aspx

The qld link doesn’t work.

https://www.qld.gov.au/seniors/legal-finance-concessions/applying-seniors-card/

Turns out I have to be the holder of one of the below:
  • Commonwealth Pensioner Concession Card
  • Commonwealth Health Care Card
  • Commonwealth Seniors Health Card
  • Department of Veterans’ Affairs Gold, White or Orange card.

Which I am not.

:(

All I had to do was be 60.

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Date: 21/11/2016 19:23:04
From: roughbarked
ID: 984524
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

Arthropodium minus

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Date: 21/11/2016 19:23:50
From: Michael V
ID: 984525
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

roughbarked said:


Michael V said:

roughbarked said:

https://www.qld.gov.au/seniors/legal-finance-concessions/applying-seniors-card/

Turns out I have to be the holder of one of the below:
  • Commonwealth Pensioner Concession Card
  • Commonwealth Health Care Card
  • Commonwealth Seniors Health Card
  • Department of Veterans’ Affairs Gold, White or Orange card.

Which I am not.

:(

All I had to do was be 60.

In Qld one has to be 65. So about 2.5 years time.

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Date: 21/11/2016 19:40:33
From: Michael V
ID: 984526
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

Whoops, cat out of the bag there…

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Date: 21/11/2016 19:42:36
From: JudgeMental
ID: 984527
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

Michael V said:


Whoops, cat out of the bag there…

s’ok, it’s an old cat so it wont have got far.

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Date: 21/11/2016 19:45:20
From: Stumpy_seahorse
ID: 984529
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

JudgeMental said:


Michael V said:

Whoops, cat out of the bag there…

s’ok, it’s an old cat so it wont have got far.

check Witty’s leg…

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Date: 21/11/2016 19:47:01
From: buffy
ID: 984530
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

But you only have to be 60 for the business discount one:

Seniors Business Discount Card

If you’re not eligible for the Queensland Seniors Card or Seniors Card +go, you may still be eligible for the Seniors Business Discount Card, which offers:

Discounts on goods and services at participating outlets throughout Queensland Access to the free Senior Shopper service
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Date: 21/11/2016 19:47:11
From: JudgeMental
ID: 984531
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

Stumpy_seahorse said:


JudgeMental said:

Michael V said:

Whoops, cat out of the bag there…

s’ok, it’s an old cat so it wont have got far.

check Witty’s leg…

come again?

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Date: 21/11/2016 19:48:33
From: Stumpy_seahorse
ID: 984533
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

JudgeMental said:


Stumpy_seahorse said:

JudgeMental said:

s’ok, it’s an old cat so it wont have got far.

check Witty’s leg…

come again?

perzactly..

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Date: 21/11/2016 19:56:19
From: Michael V
ID: 984542
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

JudgeMental said:


Michael V said:

Whoops, cat out of the bag there…

s’ok, it’s an old cat so it wont have got far.

Bar-steward!
Mung Bean!

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Date: 21/11/2016 19:57:53
From: Michael V
ID: 984544
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

buffy said:

But you only have to be 60 for the business discount one:

Seniors Business Discount Card

If you’re not eligible for the Queensland Seniors Card or Seniors Card +go, you may still be eligible for the Seniors Business Discount Card, which offers:

Discounts on goods and services at participating outlets throughout Queensland Access to the free Senior Shopper service

I read that, but can’t find any participating outlets here, or nearby. Bummer…

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Date: 21/11/2016 20:25:17
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 984560
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

Stumpy_seahorse said:


JudgeMental said:

Michael V said:

Whoops, cat out of the bag there…

s’ok, it’s an old cat so it wont have got far.

check Witty’s leg…


Over-sharing? What me?

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Date: 21/11/2016 22:05:26
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 984589
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

When I was young I used to enjoy predictions of the future. Trouble was, so few people were willing to put their neck on the line to make predictions. Club of Rome was one in 1972. Heinlein was the most accurate of all the science fiction writers.

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Date: 22/11/2016 00:51:01
From: dv
ID: 984653
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

SCIENCE said:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_constant

References to webpages in this post were made by the individual poster and do not constitute implicit or explicit endorsement by the host. Referrals made for critical inspection of content do not imply endorsement of the content on those pages. Pages may be subject to third-party modification at any time and unless otherwise specified the referral applies only to the content of the target pages at the time of posting. Readers follow such references at their own risk.

xxx here!
http://xxx.lanl.gov/

that crazy German humour

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Date: 22/11/2016 00:52:41
From: dv
ID: 984655
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

The Rev Dodgson said:


dv said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

I don’t think it makes any sense to make single value or narrow range predictions.

Well what does a prediction mean? Is anyone going to give me a gold star for predicting the next match in Adelaide will be a win for SA, a win for Aust, a draw or a tie?

In this context, it means considering the full range of possibilities, with an estimate of their probabilities, evaluating the associated risks, and the costs of reducing those risks, and taking action that will minimise the costs and maximise the benefits.

Fine, but this is a headline prediction on the cover of a magazine cover. It is appropriate for a full article to cover the range of moderately likely scenarios but if your capital P prediction is something unlikely then that’s something that should be reconsidered.

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Date: 22/11/2016 01:04:21
From: kii
ID: 984665
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

Hopefully I’ll be dead.

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Date: 22/11/2016 01:07:26
From: dv
ID: 984668
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

kii said:


Hopefully I’ll be dead.

I hope you are alive and sprightly, enjoying each day

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Date: 22/11/2016 01:12:48
From: kii
ID: 984671
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

dv said:


kii said:

Hopefully I’ll be dead.

I hope you are alive and sprightly, enjoying each day

Looking at my 120th birthday sneaking up on me?

Nah….

Though I do hope the world is a better place than it has been of late and that God is real and She’s removed all the people hurting others in the name of their religion. Especially those awful ones who make gazillions of dollars off the gullible.

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Date: 23/11/2016 08:35:43
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 985349
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

From http://www.zmescience.com/other/isaac-asimov-predicts-1964-world-will-look-like-today-2014/

When New York City hosted The World’s Fair in 1964, Isaac Asimov, took the opportunity to wonder what the world would look like 50 years hence — assuming the world survived the nuclear threats of the Cold War – which was a big worry at the time. Writing in The New York Times, Asimov imagined how the world would look like in 2014. So let’s he, was the master right? He was imagining a world where:

“Gadgetry will continue to relieve mankind of tedious jobs. Kitchen units will be devised that will prepare ‘automeals,’ heating water and converting it to coffee; toasting bread; frying, poaching or scrambling eggs, grilling bacon, and so on. Breakfasts will be ‘ordered’ the night before to be ready by a specified hour the next morning.”

“Communications will become sight-sound and you will see as well as hear the person you telephone. The screen can be used not only to see the people you call but also for studying documents and photographs and reading passages from books. Synchronous satellites, hovering in space will make it possible for you to direct-dial any spot on earth, including the weather stations in Antarctica.”

“Robots will neither be common nor very good in 2014, but they will be in existence.”

“en will continue to withdraw from nature in order to create an environment that will suit them better. By 2014, electroluminescent panels will be in common use. Ceilings and walls will glow softly, and in a variety of colors that will change at the touch of a push button.”

“ighways … in the more advanced sections of the world will have passed their peak in 2014; there will be increasing emphasis on transportation that makes the least possible contact with the surface. There will be aircraft, of course, but even ground travel will increasingly take to the air a foot or two off the ground.”

“ehicles with ‘Robot-brains’ … can be set for particular destinations … that will then proceed there without interference by the slow reflexes of a human driver.”

““he world population will be 6,500,000,000 and the population of the United States will be 350,000,000.”

(The above is spot on, 7 billion and 314 million)

“Ordinary agriculture will keep up with great difficulty and there will be ‘farms’ turning to the more efficient micro-organisms. Processed yeast and algae products will be available in a variety of flavors.”

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Date: 23/11/2016 08:39:17
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 985353
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

mollwollfumble said:


“Robots will neither be common nor very good in 2014, but they will be in existence.”

Hats off to Mr Asimov for that one.

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Date: 23/11/2016 11:33:39
From: Michael V
ID: 985423
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

The Rev Dodgson said:


mollwollfumble said:

“Robots will neither be common nor very good in 2014, but they will be in existence.”

Hats off to Mr Asimov for that one.

That’s a “sort of depends” thing. Robots that walk and do disparate tasks are uncommon and generally not very good. But modern washing machines are great robots for doing what they do. It’s just that they don’t pick up the dirty clothes and clean the floor etc. Nor do they normally walk around doing other chores.

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Date: 23/11/2016 11:36:52
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 985425
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

Michael V said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

mollwollfumble said:

“Robots will neither be common nor very good in 2014, but they will be in existence.”

Hats off to Mr Asimov for that one.

That’s a “sort of depends” thing. Robots that walk and do disparate tasks are uncommon and generally not very good. But modern washing machines are great robots for doing what they do. It’s just that they don’t pick up the dirty clothes and clean the floor etc. Nor do they normally walk around doing other chores.

’Marvin can you pick up that piece of paper ?‘ Can I pick up that piece of paper? Here I am, brain the size of a planet…But I’m quite used to being humiliated. I can even go and stick my head in a bucket of water if you like.”

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Date: 23/11/2016 11:40:41
From: Cymek
ID: 985426
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

The Rev Dodgson said:


Michael V said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Hats off to Mr Asimov for that one.

That’s a “sort of depends” thing. Robots that walk and do disparate tasks are uncommon and generally not very good. But modern washing machines are great robots for doing what they do. It’s just that they don’t pick up the dirty clothes and clean the floor etc. Nor do they normally walk around doing other chores.

’Marvin can you pick up that piece of paper ?‘ Can I pick up that piece of paper? Here I am, brain the size of a planet…But I’m quite used to being humiliated. I can even go and stick my head in a bucket of water if you like.”

It’s interesting that two tv shows on at the moment involving androids concern themselves with how poorly most people treat them virtually slaves or worse and when they show signs of sentience it’s a problem not a great achievement. Not everyone thinks that but most do

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Date: 23/11/2016 11:51:04
From: Tamb
ID: 985428
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

Michael V said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

mollwollfumble said:

“Robots will neither be common nor very good in 2014, but they will be in existence.”

Hats off to Mr Asimov for that one.

That’s a “sort of depends” thing. Robots that walk and do disparate tasks are uncommon and generally not very good. But modern washing machines are great robots for doing what they do. It’s just that they don’t pick up the dirty clothes and clean the floor etc. Nor do they normally walk around doing other chores.


If you don’t balance the load they tend to walk around quite a bit.

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Date: 23/11/2016 11:59:27
From: AwesomeO
ID: 985431
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

Robots are pretty common in my house.

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Date: 23/11/2016 12:06:05
From: Michael V
ID: 985433
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

Tamb said:


Michael V said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Hats off to Mr Asimov for that one.

That’s a “sort of depends” thing. Robots that walk and do disparate tasks are uncommon and generally not very good. But modern washing machines are great robots for doing what they do. It’s just that they don’t pick up the dirty clothes and clean the floor etc. Nor do they normally walk around doing other chores.


If you don’t balance the load they tend to walk around quite a bit.

Older designs do. The one I bought last year seems to be fine. Anyway, did specify “normally” and “other chores”.

I’m still quite happy to designate a washing machine as a robot. It does clean the clothes well, and gets rid of excess water from them well, as well.

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Date: 23/11/2016 12:07:04
From: Michael V
ID: 985434
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

AwesomeO said:


Robots are pretty common in my house.
:)

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Date: 23/11/2016 12:18:28
From: Tamb
ID: 985436
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

Michael V said:


Tamb said:

Michael V said:

That’s a “sort of depends” thing. Robots that walk and do disparate tasks are uncommon and generally not very good. But modern washing machines are great robots for doing what they do. It’s just that they don’t pick up the dirty clothes and clean the floor etc. Nor do they normally walk around doing other chores.


If you don’t balance the load they tend to walk around quite a bit.

Older designs do. The one I bought last year seems to be fine. Anyway, did specify “normally” and “other chores”.

I’m still quite happy to designate a washing machine as a robot. It does clean the clothes well, and gets rid of excess water from them well, as well.


Toaster & Jug too.

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Date: 23/11/2016 12:28:10
From: Michael V
ID: 985437
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

Tamb said:


Michael V said:

Tamb said:

If you don’t balance the load they tend to walk around quite a bit.

Older designs do. The one I bought last year seems to be fine. Anyway, did specify “normally” and “other chores”.

I’m still quite happy to designate a washing machine as a robot. It does clean the clothes well, and gets rid of excess water from them well, as well.


Toaster & Jug too.

Yep.

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Date: 23/11/2016 12:33:53
From: Ian
ID: 985439
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

Michael V said:


Tamb said:

Michael V said:

Older designs do. The one I bought last year seems to be fine. Anyway, did specify “normally” and “other chores”.

I’m still quite happy to designate a washing machine as a robot. It does clean the clothes well, and gets rid of excess water from them well, as well.


Toaster & Jug too.

Yep.

Think that’s a stretch..

Robot n. A mechanical device that sometimes resembles a human and is capable of performing a variety of often complex human tasks on command or by being programmed in advance. A machine or device that operates automatically or by remote control.

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Date: 23/11/2016 12:44:16
From: roughbarked
ID: 985445
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

Michael V said:


Tamb said:

Michael V said:

That’s a “sort of depends” thing. Robots that walk and do disparate tasks are uncommon and generally not very good. But modern washing machines are great robots for doing what they do. It’s just that they don’t pick up the dirty clothes and clean the floor etc. Nor do they normally walk around doing other chores.


If you don’t balance the load they tend to walk around quite a bit.

Older designs do. The one I bought last year seems to be fine. Anyway, did specify “normally” and “other chores”.

I’m still quite happy to designate a washing machine as a robot. It does clean the clothes well, and gets rid of excess water from them well, as well.

These days, if the load is unbalanced the machine sits there beeping until someone fixes the load.

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Date: 23/11/2016 12:46:21
From: roughbarked
ID: 985449
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

Ian said:


Michael V said:

Tamb said:

Toaster & Jug too.

Yep.

Think that’s a stretch..

Robot n. A mechanical device that sometimes resembles a human and is capable of performing a variety of often complex human tasks on command or by being programmed in advance. A machine or device that operates automatically or by remote control.

We used to have to open the toaster door and check the toast, turn it ourselves. The toaster could only toast one side of the bread at a time and would bun it if nobody checked it.

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Date: 23/11/2016 12:47:40
From: Ian
ID: 985450
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

Ian said:


Michael V said:

Tamb said:

Toaster & Jug too.

Yep.

Think that’s a stretch..

Robot n. A mechanical device that sometimes resembles a human and is capable of performing a variety of often complex human tasks on command or by being programmed in advance. A machine or device that operates automatically or by remote control.

I know that the last bit of that definition could apply to a toaster. But the most common usage is a lot closer to the first bit.. have a look at an image search.

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Date: 23/11/2016 12:48:39
From: Cymek
ID: 985452
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

Ian said:


Ian said:

Michael V said:

Yep.

Think that’s a stretch..

Robot n. A mechanical device that sometimes resembles a human and is capable of performing a variety of often complex human tasks on command or by being programmed in advance. A machine or device that operates automatically or by remote control.

I know that the last bit of that definition could apply to a toaster. But the most common usage is a lot closer to the first bit.. have a look at an image search.

Sentient toasters are a good idea I reckon, I toast therefore I am

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Date: 23/11/2016 12:49:31
From: roughbarked
ID: 985453
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

Ian said:


Ian said:

Michael V said:

Yep.

Think that’s a stretch..

Robot n. A mechanical device that sometimes resembles a human and is capable of performing a variety of often complex human tasks on command or by being programmed in advance. A machine or device that operates automatically or by remote control.

I know that the last bit of that definition could apply to a toaster. But the most common usage is a lot closer to the first bit.. have a look at an image search.


Androids and robots were never the same thing.

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Date: 23/11/2016 12:51:44
From: Ian
ID: 985455
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

Cymek said:


Ian said:

Ian said:

Think that’s a stretch..

Robot n. A mechanical device that sometimes resembles a human and is capable of performing a variety of often complex human tasks on command or by being programmed in advance. A machine or device that operates automatically or by remote control.

I know that the last bit of that definition could apply to a toaster. But the most common usage is a lot closer to the first bit.. have a look at an image search.

Sentient toasters are a good idea I reckon, I toast therefore I am

Yeah. One like Red Dwarf’s would be a hoot.

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Date: 23/11/2016 12:52:20
From: roughbarked
ID: 985456
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

Cymek said:


Ian said:

Ian said:

Think that’s a stretch..

Robot n. A mechanical device that sometimes resembles a human and is capable of performing a variety of often complex human tasks on command or by being programmed in advance. A machine or device that operates automatically or by remote control.

I know that the last bit of that definition could apply to a toaster. But the most common usage is a lot closer to the first bit.. have a look at an image search.

Sentient toasters are a good idea I reckon, I toast therefore I am

In the 70’s the book the sercet life of plants. The author stated that he had plants which woke him by setting off the alarm and made his toast and coffee.

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Date: 23/11/2016 12:55:31
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 985457
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

Cymek said:


Ian said:

Ian said:

Think that’s a stretch..

Robot n. A mechanical device that sometimes resembles a human and is capable of performing a variety of often complex human tasks on command or by being programmed in advance. A machine or device that operates automatically or by remote control.

I know that the last bit of that definition could apply to a toaster. But the most common usage is a lot closer to the first bit.. have a look at an image search.

Sentient toasters are a good idea I reckon, I toast therefore I am

LOL

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Date: 23/11/2016 13:00:45
From: dv
ID: 985460
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

Wasn’t this an X-Men song?

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Date: 23/11/2016 13:05:00
From: roughbarked
ID: 985462
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

dv said:


Wasn’t this an X-Men song?

http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/portugaltheman/60years.html

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Date: 23/11/2016 13:23:28
From: AwesomeO
ID: 985473
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

In a figure partly reflecting the rise of robots (and manufacturing moving off shore) in 1960 in America nearly one quarter of all workers were involved in manufacturing, the most recent figures are 8%, that’s a big difference.

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Date: 23/11/2016 17:34:22
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 985688
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

> World War IIII

> nuclear threats of the Cold War

I still think we’re headed for a nuclear World War III in about 60 years.

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Date: 23/11/2016 17:38:21
From: Cymek
ID: 985693
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

mollwollfumble said:


> World War IIII

> nuclear threats of the Cold War

I still think we’re headed for a nuclear World War III in about 60 years.

I was reading how many people think that WW III will be nuclear just for the fact it’s easier than massing massive conventional weapons for a fight against your enemy

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Date: 23/11/2016 17:41:47
From: Cymek
ID: 985698
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

Cymek said:


mollwollfumble said:

> World War IIII

> nuclear threats of the Cold War

I still think we’re headed for a nuclear World War III in about 60 years.

I was reading how many some people think that WW III will be nuclear just for the fact it’s easier than massing massive conventional weapons for a fight against your enemy

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Date: 23/11/2016 17:46:18
From: Dropbear
ID: 985700
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

Conversing entirely in memes

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Date: 23/11/2016 18:02:43
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 985707
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

Dropbear said:


Conversing entirely in memes

I like that idea

its like communicating using scenes from movies or just movie posters

or like communicating in poetry

or using short bits of music patched together

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Date: 23/11/2016 18:06:00
From: Cymek
ID: 985708
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

CrazyNeutrino said:


Dropbear said:

Conversing entirely in memes

I like that idea

its like communicating using scenes from movies or just movie posters

or like communicating in poetry

or using short bits of music patched together

Like the stupid way Bumblebee was portrayed in the Transformers movies

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Date: 23/11/2016 18:08:50
From: sarahs mum
ID: 985709
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

what is the weather going to be like in 60 years?

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Date: 23/11/2016 18:16:36
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 985711
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

sarahs mum said:


what is the weather going to be like in 60 years?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBrlqisHdYQ

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Date: 23/11/2016 18:17:47
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 985712
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

sarahs mum said:


what is the weather going to be like in 60 years?

Worse, more bush fires, more floods, more thunderstorms

warmer planet means more weather activity

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Date: 23/11/2016 18:25:18
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 985715
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

Peak Warming Man said:


sarahs mum said:

what is the weather going to be like in 60 years?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBrlqisHdYQ

LOL

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Date: 23/11/2016 18:25:52
From: Bubblecar
ID: 985716
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

The cool change is making me fancy a hot cooked breakfast for dinner. Eggs, pork sausages, tomatoes, mushrooms, toast.

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Date: 23/11/2016 18:25:53
From: sarahs mum
ID: 985717
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

CrazyNeutrino said:


Peak Warming Man said:

sarahs mum said:

what is the weather going to be like in 60 years?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBrlqisHdYQ

LOL

i didn’t LOL as much.

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Date: 23/11/2016 18:27:19
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 985720
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

sarahs mum said:


CrazyNeutrino said:

Peak Warming Man said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBrlqisHdYQ

LOL

i didn’t LOL as much.

Tears and side stitches here

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Date: 23/11/2016 18:28:22
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 985721
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

Bubblecar said:


The cool change is making me fancy a hot cooked breakfast for dinner. Eggs, pork sausages, tomatoes, mushrooms, toast.

impressive forecast

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Date: 23/11/2016 18:52:11
From: dv
ID: 985738
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

sarahs mum said:


what is the weather going to be like in 60 years?

Take a brolly

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Date: 23/11/2016 19:06:27
From: AwesomeO
ID: 985739
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

dv said:


sarahs mum said:

what is the weather going to be like in 60 years?

Take a brolly

Blade Runner?

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Date: 24/11/2016 15:35:30
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 986157
Subject: re: Where will we be in 60 years

dv said:


sarahs mum said:

what is the weather going to be like in 60 years?

Take a brolly

Radioactive

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