Date: 4/12/2016 22:11:12
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 991961
Subject: Today's art.

Was looking through deviantart and noticed strong common factors among the most popular of today’s art. Common factors are: woman, man, beast, loneliness, and surrealism.

This made me wonder – is all of today’s art surrealism?

Even those works of art that are abstract, realistic, or primativist have strong elements of surrealism.

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Date: 4/12/2016 22:44:05
From: sarahs mum
ID: 991980
Subject: re: Today's art.

mollwollfumble said:


Was looking through deviantart and noticed strong common factors among the most popular of today’s art. Common factors are: woman, man, beast, loneliness, and surrealism.

This made me wonder – is all of today’s art surrealism?

Even those works of art that are abstract, realistic, or primativist have strong elements of surrealism.

A few of the things that I have thought of in regard to surrealism and the postmodern…through the internet lots of imagery can be accessed and used as pieces in composition.As opposed to taking something from a small book the internet coughs up lots of diverse images, covering vast times and far places, and artists are responding to this.These appropriations may have been made for various reasons, but I noted it a lot in identity art…the who am I?/where did I come from? stuff Take a few unrelated things, cement them together and you are a long way down the surrealist path.

Originally surrealism responded to war and disease and loss and displacement. Some of the these themes are being reworked because of the times imo.

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Date: 4/12/2016 23:03:04
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 991988
Subject: re: Today's art.

sarahs mum said:


mollwollfumble said:

Was looking through deviantart and noticed strong common factors among the most popular of today’s art. Common factors are: woman, man, beast, loneliness, and surrealism.

This made me wonder – is all of today’s art surrealism?

Even those works of art that are abstract, realistic, or primativist have strong elements of surrealism.

A few of the things that I have thought of in regard to surrealism and the postmodern…through the internet lots of imagery can be accessed and used as pieces in composition.As opposed to taking something from a small book the internet coughs up lots of diverse images, covering vast times and far places, and artists are responding to this.These appropriations may have been made for various reasons, but I noted it a lot in identity art…the who am I?/where did I come from? stuff Take a few unrelated things, cement them together and you are a long way down the surrealist path.

Originally surrealism responded to war and disease and loss and displacement. Some of the these themes are being reworked because of the times imo.

War is Surrealism in some ways, things that don’t make sense, destruction, abstract power, sexual torture, senseless murder, contrast of peace with explosions, fleeing the oncoming horror.

Lots of artists look at war from many angles and different views. Picasso’s Gurnica depicting violence and chaos, many have stories that go with the paintings.

google surrealists paintings war

makes me wonder how art would be effected if war suddenly stopped and stayed that way

whether art would then take another direction

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Date: 4/12/2016 23:13:58
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 991989
Subject: re: Today's art.

CrazyNeutrino said:


sarahs mum said:

mollwollfumble said:

Was looking through deviantart and noticed strong common factors among the most popular of today’s art. Common factors are: woman, man, beast, loneliness, and surrealism.

This made me wonder – is all of today’s art surrealism?

Even those works of art that are abstract, realistic, or primativist have strong elements of surrealism.

A few of the things that I have thought of in regard to surrealism and the postmodern…through the internet lots of imagery can be accessed and used as pieces in composition.As opposed to taking something from a small book the internet coughs up lots of diverse images, covering vast times and far places, and artists are responding to this.These appropriations may have been made for various reasons, but I noted it a lot in identity art…the who am I?/where did I come from? stuff Take a few unrelated things, cement them together and you are a long way down the surrealist path.

Originally surrealism responded to war and disease and loss and displacement. Some of the these themes are being reworked because of the times imo.

War is Surrealism in some ways, things that don’t make sense, destruction, abstract power, sexual torture, senseless murder, contrast of peace with explosions, fleeing the oncoming horror.

Lots of artists look at war from many angles and different views. Picasso’s Gurnica depicting violence and chaos, many have stories that go with the paintings.

google surrealists paintings war

makes me wonder how art would be effected if war suddenly stopped and stayed that way

whether art would then take another direction

Artists and most other people would be much less jittery, things would slow down a bit more, people might feel time again, maybe spend more time on paintings.

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Date: 4/12/2016 23:19:51
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 991992
Subject: re: Today's art.

mollwollfumble said:


Was looking through deviantart and noticed strong common factors among the most popular of today’s art. Common factors are: woman, man, beast, loneliness, and surrealism.

This made me wonder – is all of today’s art surrealism?

Even those works of art that are abstract, realistic, or primativist have strong elements of surrealism.

perhaps woman man beast reflects a sexual thing or sexual food thing?

loneliness might be a reflection of people living in isolated little boxes in cities?

surrealism = reflection of war, chaos spreading over an ordered land?

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Date: 4/12/2016 23:44:06
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 992001
Subject: re: Today's art.

sarahs mum said:


mollwollfumble said:

Was looking through deviantart and noticed strong common factors among the most popular of today’s art. Common factors are: woman, man, beast, loneliness, and surrealism.

This made me wonder – is all of today’s art surrealism?

Even those works of art that are abstract, realistic, or primativist have strong elements of surrealism.

A few of the things that I have thought of in regard to surrealism and the postmodern…through the internet lots of imagery can be accessed and used as pieces in composition.As opposed to taking something from a small book the internet coughs up lots of diverse images, covering vast times and far places, and artists are responding to this.These appropriations may have been made for various reasons, but I noted it a lot in identity art…the who am I?/where did I come from? stuff Take a few unrelated things, cement them together and you are a long way down the surrealist path.

Originally surrealism responded to war and disease and loss and displacement. Some of the these themes are being reworked because of the times imo.

Yes I agree. A lot of today’s art reflects stress of one kind or another.

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Date: 5/12/2016 17:32:19
From: dv
ID: 992205
Subject: re: Today's art.

Here is last year’s winner of the Wynne prize (Bieniek’s “Biophilia”)

There’s nothing remotely surreal about it.

And so we can conclude that the answer to mollwollfumble’s question is no.

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Date: 5/12/2016 17:34:25
From: Stumpy_seahorse
ID: 992208
Subject: re: Today's art.

dv said:


Here is last year’s winner of the Wynne prize (Bieniek’s “Biophilia”)

There’s nothing remotely surreal about it.

And so we can conclude that the answer to mollwollfumble’s question is no.

shopped

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Date: 5/12/2016 18:18:20
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 992226
Subject: re: Today's art.

> Common factors are: woman, man, beast, loneliness, and surrealism.

And strong emotion. Art currently is full of emotion: love, longing, horror.

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Date: 6/12/2016 10:40:26
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 992399
Subject: re: Today's art.

dv said:


Here is last year’s winner of the Wynne prize (Bieniek’s “Biophilia”)

There’s nothing remotely surreal about it.

And so we can conclude that the answer to mollwollfumble’s question is no.

But it does starkly highlight the other common element of today’s art – loneliness.
It’s a very old fashioned style that became so popular in the 19th century that it became a cliche – a pleasant valley between high vegetation on both sides

Similar other works:

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Date: 6/12/2016 10:48:41
From: sarahs mum
ID: 992400
Subject: re: Today's art.

Academic art isn’t keen on surrealism. It is seen as taking the easy way out not that I fully grok this.

DV’s Wynne prize winner looks like an academic pick.

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Date: 6/12/2016 10:51:51
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 992402
Subject: re: Today's art.

sarahs mum said:


Academic art isn’t keen on surrealism. It is seen as taking the easy way out not that I fully grok this.

DV’s Wynne prize winner looks like an academic pick.

Yes, looks very ordinary to me.

presumably the winner is a recognised name in his field.

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Date: 6/12/2016 10:52:01
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 992403
Subject: re: Today's art.

Though you probably see it as more similar to this photograph.

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Date: 6/12/2016 10:54:35
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 992406
Subject: re: Today's art.

The Rev Dodgson said:


sarahs mum said:

Academic art isn’t keen on surrealism. It is seen as taking the easy way out not that I fully grok this.

DV’s Wynne prize winner looks like an academic pick.

Yes, looks very ordinary to me.

presumably the winner is a recognised name in his field.

Hmm, OK it’s a miniature oil painting, not a photograph.

So it is technically remarkable I suppose.

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Date: 6/12/2016 10:54:40
From: sarahs mum
ID: 992407
Subject: re: Today's art.

The Rev Dodgson said:


sarahs mum said:

Academic art isn’t keen on surrealism. It is seen as taking the easy way out not that I fully grok this.

DV’s Wynne prize winner looks like an academic pick.

Yes, looks very ordinary to me.

presumably the winner is a recognised name in his field.

It’s hook is in the title probably..

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Date: 6/12/2016 10:55:58
From: sarahs mum
ID: 992408
Subject: re: Today's art.

The Rev Dodgson said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

sarahs mum said:

Academic art isn’t keen on surrealism. It is seen as taking the easy way out not that I fully grok this.

DV’s Wynne prize winner looks like an academic pick.

Yes, looks very ordinary to me.

presumably the winner is a recognised name in his field.

Hmm, OK it’s a miniature oil painting, not a photograph.

So it is technically remarkable I suppose.

now..super realism is something liked at the moment..

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Date: 6/12/2016 10:58:22
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 992409
Subject: re: Today's art.

sarahs mum said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

sarahs mum said:

Academic art isn’t keen on surrealism. It is seen as taking the easy way out not that I fully grok this.

DV’s Wynne prize winner looks like an academic pick.

Yes, looks very ordinary to me.

presumably the winner is a recognised name in his field.

It’s hook is in the title probably..

Perhaps I should give up trying to improve my technique and concentrate on my titling skills :)

(And apologies for the accidental sexism in assuming the winner was a “he”)

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