Date: 9/12/2016 15:13:25
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 993957
Subject: Long-range Wi-Fi

Long-range Wi-Fi

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi-Fi

The Wi-Fi signal range depends on the frequency band, radio power output, antenna gain and antenna type as well as the modulation technique. Line-of-sight is the thumbnail guide but reflection and refraction can have a significant impact.

An access point compliant with either 802.11b or 802.11g, using the stock antenna might have a range of 100 m (330 ft). The same radio with an external semi parabolic antenna (15 dB gain) might have a range over 20 miles.

Higher gain rating (dBi) indicates further deviation (generally toward the horizontal) from a theoretical, perfect isotropic radiator, and therefore the further the antenna can project a usable signal, as compared to a similar output power on a more isotropic antenna. For example, an 8 dBi antenna used with a 100 mW driver will have a similar horizontal range to a 6 dBi antenna being driven at 500 mW. Note that this assumes that radiation in the vertical is lost; this may not be the case in some situations, especially in large buildings or within a waveguide. In the above example, a directional waveguide could cause the low power 6 dBi antenna to project much further in a single direction than the 8 dBi antenna which is not in a waveguide, even if they are both being driven at 100 mW.

IEEE 802.11n, however, can more than double the range. Range also varies with frequency band. Wi-Fi in the 2.4 GHz frequency block has slightly better range than Wi-Fi in the 5 GHz frequency block used by 802.11a (and optionally by 802.11n). On wireless routers with detachable antennas, it is possible to improve range by fitting upgraded antennas which have higher gain in particular directions. Outdoor ranges can be improved to many kilometers through the use of high gain directional antennas at the router and remote device(s). In general, the maximum amount of power that a Wi-Fi device can transmit is limited by local regulations, such as FCC Part 15 in the US. Equivalent isotropically radiated power (EIRP) in the European Union is limited to 20 dBm (100 mW).

To reach requirements for wireless LAN applications, Wi-Fi has fairly high power consumption compared to some other standards. Technologies such as Bluetooth (designed to support wireless personal area network (PAN) applications) provide a much shorter propagation range between 1 and 100 m and so in general have a lower power consumption. Other low-power technologies such as ZigBee have fairly long range, but much lower data rate. The high power consumption of Wi-Fi makes battery life in mobile devices a concern.

Researchers have developed a number of “no new wires” technologies to provide alternatives to Wi-Fi for applications in which Wi-Fi’s indoor range is not adequate and where installing new wires (such as CAT-6) is not possible or cost-effective. For example, the ITU-T G.hn standard for high speed local area networks uses existing home wiring (coaxial cables, phone lines and power lines). Although G.hn does not provide some of the advantages of Wi-Fi (such as mobility or outdoor use), it is designed for applications (such as IPTV distribution) where indoor range is more important than mobility.

For the best performance, a number of people only recommend using wireless networking as a supplement to wired networking.

Due to the complex nature of radio propagation at typical Wi-Fi frequencies, particularly the effects of signal reflection off trees and buildings, algorithms can only approximately predict Wi-Fi signal strength for any given area in relation to a transmitter. This effect does not apply equally to long-range Wi-Fi, since longer links typically operate from towers that transmit above the surrounding foliage.

The practical range of Wi-Fi essentially confines mobile use to such applications as inventory-taking machines in warehouses or in retail spaces, barcode-reading devices at check-out stands, or receiving/shipping stations. Mobile use of Wi-Fi over wider ranges is limited, for instance, to uses such as in an automobile moving from one hotspot to another. Other wireless technologies are more suitable for communicating with moving vehicles.

Distance records

Distance records (using non-standard devices) include 382 km (237 mi) in June 2007, held by Ermanno Pietrosemoli and EsLaRed of Venezuela, transferring about 3 MB of data between the mountain-tops of El Águila and Platillon. The Swedish Space Agency transferred data 420 km (260 mi), using 6 watt amplifiers to reach an overhead stratospheric balloon.

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Date: 9/12/2016 15:17:18
From: sibeen
ID: 993962
Subject: re: Long-range Wi-Fi

CrazyNeutrino said:


The same radio with an external semi parabolic antenna (15 dB gain)

I was about to climb on to my high horse and exclaim that antenna gain is given as dBi and the bastards go on in the very next paragraph and explain dBi.

scratches head

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Date: 9/12/2016 15:24:39
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 993966
Subject: re: Long-range Wi-Fi

New WiFi Record: 237 Miles

How To Get WIFI Signal From 1/4 Mile Away for less than $60

30km WIFI link, Is it possible

New World Record for Wi-Fi Distance: 125 Miles

most wifi signals travel 30 meters, so a wifi extender can double that to around 60 meters +

here is an 18km setup
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Wireless-Range-Extender-Outdoor-mini-Access-Point-300M-28dBm-MIMO-2-5dBi-Antenna-/311494689897?hash=item488687c469:g:nK4AAOSwDuJW1fJa

3000 Feet 914 meters setup

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KbS42Dye5M

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Date: 9/12/2016 16:00:26
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 993993
Subject: re: Long-range Wi-Fi

270 meters extender

TP-LINK TL-WR802N NANO Wireless N 300Mbps Router Access Point Repeater WISP F43

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Date: 9/12/2016 16:01:34
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 993994
Subject: re: Long-range Wi-Fi

15km

TP-Link CPE510 V1.1 5GHz 300Mbps 13dBi High Powered Wireless Outdoor Wisp CPE, Long Distance (up to 15km) Wireless Bridge Connection and Outdoor Access Point with Passive POE

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Date: 9/12/2016 16:45:41
From: transition
ID: 994029
Subject: re: Long-range Wi-Fi

sibeen said:


CrazyNeutrino said:

The same radio with an external semi parabolic antenna (15 dB gain)

I was about to climb on to my high horse and exclaim that antenna gain is given as dBi and the bastards go on in the very next paragraph and explain dBi.

scratches head

probably dB given that way generally means gain over a half-wave dipole/dBd (for frequencies under a Gig).

dunno

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Date: 10/12/2016 00:13:25
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 994058
Subject: re: Long-range Wi-Fi

> using 6 watt amplifiers to reach an overhead stratospheric balloon.

Nice.

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Date: 10/12/2016 00:46:22
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 994062
Subject: re: Long-range Wi-Fi

> How To Get WIFI Signal From 1/4 Mile Away for less than $60

I just want a wifi that gets a reliable signal between my lounge room and TV room. A distance of 15 metres as the rat runs. Currently the signal drops out nearly 25% of the time.

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Date: 10/12/2016 01:01:44
From: transition
ID: 994066
Subject: re: Long-range Wi-Fi

These things are sorta micropower limited really, the idea being that the aether’s (other receivers are) not bombed with radio energy (on’n around those frequencies, harmonics, spurious, whatever). Contribution to the noise floor. And the number of devices is proliferating.

Keeps the design simpler, of filtering, overload, and desensitization.

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Date: 10/12/2016 01:13:30
From: transition
ID: 994070
Subject: re: Long-range Wi-Fi

security reasons too, like if there’s no signal you can’t hack it, or whatever

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Date: 10/12/2016 01:26:06
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 994073
Subject: re: Long-range Wi-Fi

mollwollfumble said:


> How To Get WIFI Signal From 1/4 Mile Away for less than $60

I just want a wifi that gets a reliable signal between my lounge room and TV room. A distance of 15 metres as the rat runs. Currently the signal drops out nearly 25% of the time.

Same here. Mine’s not that bad, but it’s a long way from perfect, and perfection is surely what we should be getting after all this time.

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