Date: 31/12/2016 11:52:12
From: dv
ID: 1003942
Subject: Irukandji moving south

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-12-30/irukandji-jellyfish-on-move-down-queensland-coast/8153122?sf48727427=1

Marine experts have reinforced warnings that deadly Irukandji jellyfish are moving south and could soon be on Queensland’s popular Sunshine Coast beaches.

It comes after four people were hospitalised on Wednesday and Thursday from Irukandji jellyfish stings on the western side of Fraser Island.

RACQ LifeFlight Rescue said the three women and a 12-year-old girl were all in stable conditions in Hervey Bay Hospital.

But James Cook University Associate Professor Jamie Seymour says it shows how the Irukandji’s migration south needs to be taken more seriously.

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Date: 31/12/2016 12:12:41
From: roughbarked
ID: 1003948
Subject: re: Irukandji moving south

dv said:


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-12-30/irukandji-jellyfish-on-move-down-queensland-coast/8153122?sf48727427=1

Marine experts have reinforced warnings that deadly Irukandji jellyfish are moving south and could soon be on Queensland’s popular Sunshine Coast beaches.

It comes after four people were hospitalised on Wednesday and Thursday from Irukandji jellyfish stings on the western side of Fraser Island.

RACQ LifeFlight Rescue said the three women and a 12-year-old girl were all in stable conditions in Hervey Bay Hospital.

But James Cook University Associate Professor Jamie Seymour says it shows how the Irukandji’s migration south needs to be taken more seriously.

Won’t be much longer before the only thing in the sea will be jellyfish.

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Date: 31/12/2016 12:16:16
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1003951
Subject: re: Irukandji moving south

dv said:


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-12-30/irukandji-jellyfish-on-move-down-queensland-coast/8153122?sf48727427=1

Marine experts have reinforced warnings that deadly Irukandji jellyfish are moving south and could soon be on Queensland’s popular Sunshine Coast beaches.

It comes after four people were hospitalised on Wednesday and Thursday from Irukandji jellyfish stings on the western side of Fraser Island.

RACQ LifeFlight Rescue said the three women and a 12-year-old girl were all in stable conditions in Hervey Bay Hospital.

But James Cook University Associate Professor Jamie Seymour says it shows how the Irukandji’s migration south needs to be taken more seriously.

And in other news, the bindiis are putting spikes in our bare feet again.

Both are seasonal things. Happen at this time every year.

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Date: 31/12/2016 12:16:54
From: roughbarked
ID: 1003952
Subject: re: Irukandji moving south

mollwollfumble said:


dv said:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-12-30/irukandji-jellyfish-on-move-down-queensland-coast/8153122?sf48727427=1

Marine experts have reinforced warnings that deadly Irukandji jellyfish are moving south and could soon be on Queensland’s popular Sunshine Coast beaches.

It comes after four people were hospitalised on Wednesday and Thursday from Irukandji jellyfish stings on the western side of Fraser Island.

RACQ LifeFlight Rescue said the three women and a 12-year-old girl were all in stable conditions in Hervey Bay Hospital.

But James Cook University Associate Professor Jamie Seymour says it shows how the Irukandji’s migration south needs to be taken more seriously.

And in other news, the bindiis are putting spikes in our bare feet again.

Both are seasonal things. Happen at this time every year.

Not where I’ve removed them they don’t.

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Date: 31/12/2016 12:20:31
From: dv
ID: 1003956
Subject: re: Irukandji moving south

mollwollfumble said:


dv said:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-12-30/irukandji-jellyfish-on-move-down-queensland-coast/8153122?sf48727427=1

Marine experts have reinforced warnings that deadly Irukandji jellyfish are moving south and could soon be on Queensland’s popular Sunshine Coast beaches.

It comes after four people were hospitalised on Wednesday and Thursday from Irukandji jellyfish stings on the western side of Fraser Island.

RACQ LifeFlight Rescue said the three women and a 12-year-old girl were all in stable conditions in Hervey Bay Hospital.

But James Cook University Associate Professor Jamie Seymour says it shows how the Irukandji’s migration south needs to be taken more seriously.

And in other news, the bindiis are putting spikes in our bare feet again.

Both are seasonal things. Happen at this time every year.

This article is not about the seasonal appearance of irukandji. It is about the long term southward migration of irukandji over many years.

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Date: 31/12/2016 12:22:46
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1003959
Subject: re: Irukandji moving south

dv said:


mollwollfumble said:

dv said:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-12-30/irukandji-jellyfish-on-move-down-queensland-coast/8153122?sf48727427=1

Marine experts have reinforced warnings that deadly Irukandji jellyfish are moving south and could soon be on Queensland’s popular Sunshine Coast beaches.

It comes after four people were hospitalised on Wednesday and Thursday from Irukandji jellyfish stings on the western side of Fraser Island.

RACQ LifeFlight Rescue said the three women and a 12-year-old girl were all in stable conditions in Hervey Bay Hospital.

But James Cook University Associate Professor Jamie Seymour says it shows how the Irukandji’s migration south needs to be taken more seriously.

And in other news, the bindiis are putting spikes in our bare feet again.

Both are seasonal things. Happen at this time every year.

This article is not about the seasonal appearance of irukandji. It is about the long term southward migration of irukandji over many years.

OK.

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Date: 31/12/2016 15:03:21
From: stan101
ID: 1003990
Subject: re: Irukandji moving south

The crown of thorns starfish have continued to migrate south. A marine biologist in my dive club at the time suggested a possible reason for the fast migration was due to ships balast being discarded on the sunshine coast but she remained unsure and apparently there wasn’t much in the way of study on it.

If that was the case, could the irikanji also be transported south by the same means. I’ve never seen a large ship’s intake and outtakes so unsure.

Irikanji would be a disaster for tourism. It is interesting that the Crown of thorns have not been as prolific at breeding in the well known smaller reefs of the sunny coast, but there is a lot less reef compared to the GBR and the waters do get chilly off the sunny coast at depth in late winter early spring.

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Date: 1/01/2017 01:24:51
From: buffy
ID: 1004080
Subject: re: Irukandji moving south

I reckon many, many (more than 20) years ago they found some crown of thorns in Melbourne harbour, presumably from ballast water.

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Date: 1/01/2017 03:58:05
From: The_observer
ID: 1004132
Subject: re: Irukandji moving south

roughbarked said:

Won’t be much longer before the only thing in the sea will be jellyfish.

Oh, for sure

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Date: 1/01/2017 04:09:38
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1004138
Subject: re: Irukandji moving south

The_observer said:


roughbarked said:

Won’t be much longer before the only thing in the sea will be jellyfish.

Oh, for sure

Too late. Back in the late 1980s the only thing living in Port Jackson, Botany Bay and Lake Illawarra was jellyfish.

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Date: 1/01/2017 04:30:58
From: roughbarked
ID: 1004145
Subject: re: Irukandji moving south

The_observer said:


roughbarked said:

Won’t be much longer before the only thing in the sea will be jellyfish.

Oh, for sure

I’m only repeating stuff from the mouth of experts on the issue.

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Date: 1/01/2017 04:32:00
From: The_observer
ID: 1004146
Subject: re: Irukandji moving south

roughbarked said:


The_observer said:

roughbarked said:

Won’t be much longer before the only thing in the sea will be jellyfish.

Oh, for sure

I’m only repeating stuff from the mouth of experts on the issue.

x spurts you mean

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Date: 1/01/2017 04:35:07
From: roughbarked
ID: 1004147
Subject: re: Irukandji moving south

The_observer said:


roughbarked said:

The_observer said:

Oh, for sure

I’m only repeating stuff from the mouth of experts on the issue.

x spurts you mean

I wasn’t referring to you.

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Date: 1/01/2017 04:36:51
From: Tamb
ID: 1004148
Subject: re: Irukandji moving south

The_observer said:


roughbarked said:

The_observer said:

Oh, for sure

I’m only repeating stuff from the mouth of experts on the issue.

x spurts you mean

Sea spurts are quite different from jellyfish.

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Date: 1/01/2017 04:37:47
From: The_observer
ID: 1004149
Subject: re: Irukandji moving south

roughbarked said:


The_observer said:

roughbarked said:

I’m only repeating stuff from the mouth of experts on the issue.

x spurts you mean

I wasn’t referring to you.

ref the paper that backs up your suggestion “Won’t be much longer before the only thing in the sea will be jellyfish”

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Date: 1/01/2017 04:39:49
From: roughbarked
ID: 1004150
Subject: re: Irukandji moving south

The_observer said:


roughbarked said:

The_observer said:

x spurts you mean

I wasn’t referring to you.

ref the paper that backs up your suggestion “Won’t be much longer before the only thing in the sea will be jellyfish”

Well I was quoting from a well known Australian expert on jellyfish whom was being interviewed on ABC radio but if you are willing to only read data like that in your last post in the Week in Science Dec 2016 thread then you’ll obviously never believe anything that isn’t as bisaed as all fuck.

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Date: 1/01/2017 04:43:52
From: The_observer
ID: 1004151
Subject: re: Irukandji moving south

roughbarked said:


The_observer said:

roughbarked said:

I wasn’t referring to you.

ref the paper that backs up your suggestion “Won’t be much longer before the only thing in the sea will be jellyfish”

Well I was quoting from a well known Australian expert on jellyfish whom was being interviewed on ABC radio but if you are willing to only read data like that in your last post in the Week in Science Dec 2016 thread then you’ll obviously never believe anything that isn’t as bisaed as all fuck.

did he say “Won’t be much longer before the only thing in the sea will be jellyfish”

seriously?

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Date: 1/01/2017 04:45:42
From: roughbarked
ID: 1004152
Subject: re: Irukandji moving south

The_observer said:


roughbarked said:

The_observer said:

ref the paper that backs up your suggestion “Won’t be much longer before the only thing in the sea will be jellyfish”

Well I was quoting from a well known Australian expert on jellyfish whom was being interviewed on ABC radio but if you are willing to only read data like that in your last post in the Week in Science Dec 2016 thread then you’ll obviously never believe anything that isn’t as bisaed as all fuck.

did he say “Won’t be much longer before the only thing in the sea will be jellyfish”

seriously?

It was a she actually and she was well aware of all the science reporting or misreporting of jellyfish blooms but it wasn’t studying jellyfish themselves that was leading her in the direction of the statement.

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Date: 1/01/2017 04:50:21
From: dv
ID: 1004153
Subject: re: Irukandji moving south

I don’t think it could get to the stage that there won’t be much in the sea apart from jellyfish. For the foreseeable future, the primary component of the oceans will be dihydrogen monoxide.

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Date: 1/01/2017 04:50:35
From: The_observer
ID: 1004154
Subject: re: Irukandji moving south

roughbarked said:


The_observer said:

roughbarked said:

Well I was quoting from a well known Australian expert on jellyfish whom was being interviewed on ABC radio but if you are willing to only read data like that in your last post in the Week in Science Dec 2016 thread then you’ll obviously never believe anything that isn’t as bisaed as all fuck.

did he say “Won’t be much longer before the only thing in the sea will be jellyfish”

seriously?

It was a she actually and she was well aware of all the science reporting or misreporting of jellyfish blooms but it wasn’t studying jellyfish themselves that was leading her in the direction of the statement.

but she never said “Won’t be much longer before the only thing in the sea will be jellyfish”

because that would have shown her to be an alarmist idiot.

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Date: 1/01/2017 04:52:12
From: The_observer
ID: 1004155
Subject: re: Irukandji moving south

roughbarked said:

Well I was quoting from a well known Australian expert on jellyfish whom was being interviewed on ABC radio but if you are willing to only read data like that in your last post in the Week in Science Dec 2016 thread then you’ll obviously never believe anything that isn’t as bisaed as all fuck.

biased ? That wasn’t data rough, but the conclusions of an eminent atmospheric physist based on facts.
Lindzen was a ‘climate scientist’ before it became trendy & financially very attractive, by way of corruption within climate science from the environmental movement.

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Date: 1/01/2017 04:52:58
From: Tamb
ID: 1004156
Subject: re: Irukandji moving south

dv said:


I don’t think it could get to the stage that there won’t be much in the sea apart from jellyfish. For the foreseeable future, the primary component of the oceans will be dihydrogen monoxide.

So true. On Earth DHMO is ubiquitous.

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Date: 1/01/2017 04:56:07
From: dv
ID: 1004157
Subject: re: Irukandji moving south

Tamb said:


The_observer said:

roughbarked said:

I’m only repeating stuff from the mouth of experts on the issue.

x spurts you mean

Sea spurts are quite different from jellyfish.

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Date: 1/01/2017 04:56:07
From: stumpy_seahorse
ID: 1004158
Subject: re: Irukandji moving south

dv said:


I don’t think it could get to the stage that there won’t be much in the sea apart from jellyfish. For the foreseeable future, the primary component of the oceans will be dihydrogen monoxide.

and considering jellyfish are mostly DHMO

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Date: 1/01/2017 04:57:00
From: dv
ID: 1004159
Subject: re: Irukandji moving south

Tamb said:


dv said:

I don’t think it could get to the stage that there won’t be much in the sea apart from jellyfish. For the foreseeable future, the primary component of the oceans will be dihydrogen monoxide.

So true. On Earth DHMO is ubiquitous.

Even in chemtrails

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Date: 1/01/2017 04:58:11
From: Tamb
ID: 1004160
Subject: re: Irukandji moving south

dv said:


Tamb said:

dv said:

I don’t think it could get to the stage that there won’t be much in the sea apart from jellyfish. For the foreseeable future, the primary component of the oceans will be dihydrogen monoxide.

So true. On Earth DHMO is ubiquitous.

Even in chemtrails


That’s how they are being spread.

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Date: 1/01/2017 05:02:57
From: dv
ID: 1004161
Subject: re: Irukandji moving south

CTTOI … given that jellyfish are carnivorous, there’s a limit to how big a slice of the marine life they can make up. You’re never going to get to the stage where the only thing alive in Africa is lions.

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Date: 1/01/2017 05:07:53
From: The_observer
ID: 1004163
Subject: re: Irukandji moving south

Tamb said:


dv said:

Tamb said:

So true. On Earth DHMO is ubiquitous.

Even in chemtrails


That’s how they are being spread.

I had a swimming pool full of the stuff (DHMO)

had to empty the pool to be rid of it

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Date: 1/01/2017 05:33:57
From: roughbarked
ID: 1004177
Subject: re: Irukandji moving south

dv said:


CTTOI … given that jellyfish are carnivorous, there’s a limit to how big a slice of the marine life they can make up. You’re never going to get to the stage where the only thing alive in Africa is lions.

The point is, that if such a stage is reached, catastrophic changes are imminent.

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Date: 1/01/2017 05:40:14
From: roughbarked
ID: 1004179
Subject: re: Irukandji moving south

roughbarked said:


dv said:

CTTOI … given that jellyfish are carnivorous, there’s a limit to how big a slice of the marine life they can make up. You’re never going to get to the stage where the only thing alive in Africa is lions.

The point is, that if such a stage is reached, catastrophic changes are imminent.

There was reportedly a canyon in Australia where the only animal of any size left, was the cat. It had resorted to eating its own as there was nothing much else worth catching.

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Date: 1/01/2017 06:26:41
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1004193
Subject: re: Irukandji moving south

dv said:


I don’t think it could get to the stage that there won’t be much in the sea apart from jellyfish. For the foreseeable future, the primary component of the oceans will be dihydrogen monoxide.

Indeed.

In fact it seems likely that the total volume of DHO in the sea will increase over time.

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Date: 1/01/2017 11:51:56
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1004277
Subject: re: Irukandji moving south

The_observer said:


roughbarked said:

The_observer said:

did he say “Won’t be much longer before the only thing in the sea will be jellyfish”

seriously?

It was a she actually and she was well aware of all the science reporting or misreporting of jellyfish blooms but it wasn’t studying jellyfish themselves that was leading her in the direction of the statement.

but she never said “Won’t be much longer before the only thing in the sea will be jellyfish”

because that would have shown her to be an alarmist idiot.

A sea full of Jellyfish is not a daft as you might think, although I don’t think it will happen overnight, but it may not be that far away if we continue on our thoughtless path.

>>Jellyfish: they’re the worst. From the dollar bill-sized jellies that wash up along the New Jersey shore to the deadly box jelly—the most toxic creature on the planet—no one likes jellyfish. And the bad news is that they may be taking over: as we pull fish from the sea, the jellyfish are left to flourish. Overfishing, climate change and pollution are also setting the stage for the rise of the jellyfish. It could almost be a case of evolution running backwards—complex, vertebrate biodiversity replaced by a monoculture of squishy things, thanks chiefly to us. We could end up with what scientists call a “gelatinous ocean” dominated by jellyfish—which is exactly as appealing as it sounds like.<<

http://science.time.com/2011/09/15/why-the-future-belongs-to-jellyfish/

>>Marine ecologists are warning of worse to come, and pointing the tentacle of blame at us. Some researchers fear that human changes to the marine environment may be leading to a tipping point in which jellyfish will rule the oceans, much as they did hundreds of millions of years ago in pre-Cambrian times. In 2009, Australian marine scientist Anthony Richardson and his colleagues published a research paper entitled The jellyfish joyride, in which they warn that if we do not act to curb current blooms, we will experience runaway populations that will cause open oceanic ecosystems to flip from ones dominated by fish biodiversity to ones dominated by jellyfish.<<

http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20120405-blooming-jellyfish-problems

Of course it could just be mad scientists looking for new ways to get hold of the golden global warming bonanza.

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Date: 1/01/2017 15:26:22
From: The_observer
ID: 1004366
Subject: re: Irukandji moving south

The Rev Dodgson said:


dv said:

I don’t think it could get to the stage that there won’t be much in the sea apart from jellyfish. For the foreseeable future, the primary component of the oceans will be dihydrogen monoxide.

Indeed.

In fact it seems likely that the total volume of DHO in the sea will increase over time.

Yes, possibly to levels seen during the last interglacial

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Date: 1/01/2017 16:05:52
From: OCDC
ID: 1004382
Subject: re: Irukandji moving south

dv said:

Marine experts have reinforced warnings that deadly Irukandji jellyfish are moving south and could soon be on Queensland’s popular Sunshine Coast beaches.

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