Date: 4/01/2017 04:25:19
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1005379
Subject: Third Test A v P

Aussies won the toss and elected to have a bat.
Good toss to win, a fifth day Sydney wicket could be a delight for the spinners.

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Date: 4/01/2017 06:29:15
From: Dropbear
ID: 1005397
Subject: re: Third Test A v P

Peak Warming Man said:


Aussies won the toss and elected to have a bat.
Good toss to win, a fifth day Sydney wicket could be a delight for the spinners.

Who’s winning??

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Date: 4/01/2017 06:29:51
From: stumpy_seahorse
ID: 1005398
Subject: re: Third Test A v P

Dropbear said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Aussies won the toss and elected to have a bat.
Good toss to win, a fifth day Sydney wicket could be a delight for the spinners.

Who’s winning??

Charlie Sheen…

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Date: 4/01/2017 06:31:33
From: AwesomeO
ID: 1005400
Subject: re: Third Test A v P

stumpy_seahorse said:


Dropbear said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Aussies won the toss and elected to have a bat.
Good toss to win, a fifth day Sydney wicket could be a delight for the spinners.

Who’s winning??

Charlie Sheen…

Not with HIV he ain’t.

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Date: 4/01/2017 06:46:43
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1005408
Subject: re: Third Test A v P

AwesomeO said:


stumpy_seahorse said:

Dropbear said:

Who’s winning??

Charlie Sheen…

Not with HIV he ain’t.

To be fair, you still have a pretty long innings when you’re white and well off with HIV.

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Date: 4/01/2017 08:26:04
From: Dropbear
ID: 1005438
Subject: re: Third Test A v P

I see warner still thinks he’s playing T20.

not an openers arsehole

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Date: 4/01/2017 08:30:54
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1005442
Subject: re: Third Test A v P

If you were a Paki bowler now would be an ideal time to pull a hammie.

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Date: 4/01/2017 08:32:53
From: Tamb
ID: 1005443
Subject: re: Third Test A v P

Dropbear said:


I see warner still thinks he’s playing T20.

not an openers arsehole


Yes. Only scored 100+

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Date: 4/01/2017 08:33:02
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1005444
Subject: re: Third Test A v P

Peak Warming Man said:


If you were a Paki bowler now would be an ideal time to pull a hammie.

well, seeing as they’re probably muslim i doubt that would happen.

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Date: 4/01/2017 08:34:00
From: Tamb
ID: 1005447
Subject: re: Third Test A v P

ChrispenEvan said:


Peak Warming Man said:

If you were a Paki bowler now would be an ideal time to pull a hammie.

well, seeing as they’re probably muslim i doubt that would happen.


Yes. They don’t tell porkies.

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Date: 4/01/2017 08:38:35
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1005449
Subject: re: Third Test A v P

Tamb said:


ChrispenEvan said:

Peak Warming Man said:

If you were a Paki bowler now would be an ideal time to pull a hammie.

well, seeing as they’re probably muslim i doubt that would happen.


Yes. They don’t tell porkies.

What!!! you can study Spot Fixing at any good Madrassa.

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Date: 4/01/2017 08:40:11
From: Tamb
ID: 1005452
Subject: re: Third Test A v P

Peak Warming Man said:


Tamb said:

ChrispenEvan said:

well, seeing as they’re probably muslim i doubt that would happen.


Yes. They don’t tell porkies.

What!!! you can study Spot Fixing at any good Madrassa.


And at any drycleaners.

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Date: 4/01/2017 08:47:02
From: Dropbear
ID: 1005455
Subject: re: Third Test A v P

Tamb said:


Dropbear said:

I see warner still thinks he’s playing T20.

not an openers arsehole


Yes. Only scored 100+

It’s not just the score, it’s the way you do it …

Can he hold down an end to save a match? like an opening batsmen should? no.. the only way he knows how to play is as if he is playing a T20.

now get off my lawn..

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Date: 4/01/2017 08:49:39
From: stumpy_seahorse
ID: 1005456
Subject: re: Third Test A v P

Dropbear said:


Tamb said:

Dropbear said:

I see warner still thinks he’s playing T20.

not an openers arsehole


Yes. Only scored 100+

It’s not just the score, it’s the way you do it …

Can he hold down an end to save a match? like an opening batsmen should? no.. the only way he knows how to play is as if he is playing a T20.

now get off my lawn..

you expec us to take you seriously in those socks?…

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Date: 4/01/2017 08:50:43
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1005457
Subject: re: Third Test A v P

Smith failed again.

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Date: 4/01/2017 08:59:36
From: Dropbear
ID: 1005458
Subject: re: Third Test A v P

stumpy_seahorse said:


Dropbear said:

Tamb said:

Yes. Only scored 100+

It’s not just the score, it’s the way you do it …

Can he hold down an end to save a match? like an opening batsmen should? no.. the only way he knows how to play is as if he is playing a T20.

now get off my lawn..

you expec us to take you seriously in those socks?…

lol.. so brutal but I genuinely laughed out loud ;)

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Date: 4/01/2017 09:01:16
From: Dropbear
ID: 1005459
Subject: re: Third Test A v P

Peak Warming Man said:


Smith failed again.

pfft. Best captain since Michael Clarke

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Date: 4/01/2017 09:18:40
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1005466
Subject: re: Third Test A v P

Well done Renshaw.
The SCG is one of the grounds that I’ve never scored a test century.

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Date: 4/01/2017 11:08:21
From: dv
ID: 1005512
Subject: re: Third Test A v P

Pakistan have had their moments during this series but haven’t looked remotely like being about to take 20 wickets in a match

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Date: 4/01/2017 13:32:48
From: stumpy_seahorse
ID: 1005550
Subject: re: Third Test A v P

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Date: 4/01/2017 13:40:01
From: dv
ID: 1005552
Subject: re: Third Test A v P

stumpy_seahorse said:



?

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Date: 4/01/2017 13:41:01
From: stumpy_seahorse
ID: 1005553
Subject: re: Third Test A v P

dv said:


stumpy_seahorse said:

!https://scontent-syd2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15826677_1158022134292972_5952586109334304645_n.jpg?oh=b80d1f813fce7eeb06a8e14937e2ff5c&oe=591CD5FB

?

haven’t been following the cricket deevs?

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Date: 4/01/2017 13:42:24
From: dv
ID: 1005554
Subject: re: Third Test A v P

stumpy_seahorse said:

haven’t been following the cricket deevs?

Yeah I have

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Date: 4/01/2017 13:43:54
From: stumpy_seahorse
ID: 1005556
Subject: re: Third Test A v P

dv said:


stumpy_seahorse said:

haven’t been following the cricket deevs?

Yeah I have

with the sound on?

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Date: 4/01/2017 13:46:39
From: dv
ID: 1005557
Subject: re: Third Test A v P

stumpy_seahorse said:


dv said:

stumpy_seahorse said:

haven’t been following the cricket deevs?

Yeah I have

with the sound on?

Sorry, brain failure … didn’t parse the name properly

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Date: 4/01/2017 13:51:43
From: stumpy_seahorse
ID: 1005558
Subject: re: Third Test A v P

dv said:


stumpy_seahorse said:

dv said:

Yeah I have

with the sound on?

Sorry, brain failure … didn’t parse the name properly

I was going to say, even my 4yo nephew has picked up the Garry call when he bowls..

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Date: 4/01/2017 13:53:49
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1005560
Subject: re: Third Test A v P

Which cricketer is getting called Garry?

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Date: 4/01/2017 13:55:34
From: stumpy_seahorse
ID: 1005562
Subject: re: Third Test A v P

Witty Rejoinder said:


Which cricketer is getting called Garry?

Lyon

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Date: 4/01/2017 14:29:28
From: dv
ID: 1005572
Subject: re: Third Test A v P

Is that his legitimate nickname?

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Date: 4/01/2017 14:58:56
From: sibeen
ID: 1005581
Subject: re: Third Test A v P

dv said:


Is that his legitimate nickname?

Can you have a non-legitimate nickname?

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Date: 4/01/2017 15:01:43
From: dv
ID: 1005582
Subject: re: Third Test A v P

sibeen said:


dv said:

Is that his legitimate nickname?

Can you have a non-legitimate nickname?

Well, someone can call you something persistently, even though no one else calls you that and you don’t call yourself that and you don’t like to be called that.

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Date: 4/01/2017 15:07:46
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1005583
Subject: re: Third Test A v P

dv said:


sibeen said:

dv said:

Is that his legitimate nickname?

Can you have a non-legitimate nickname?

Well, Boris can call you something persistently, even though no one else calls you that and you don’t call yourself that and you don’t like to be called that.

…and I’m not telling you what it is!

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Date: 5/01/2017 06:57:57
From: Ian
ID: 1005719
Subject: re: Third Test A v P

Very Hanscomly made century.

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Date: 5/01/2017 07:16:26
From: Ian
ID: 1005722
Subject: re: Third Test A v P

Ian said:


Very Hanscomly made century.

Out hit wicket.
He might want reconsider batting quite so deep behind the crease.

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Date: 6/01/2017 04:44:28
From: roughbarked
ID: 1006071
Subject: re: Third Test A v P

The covers are still on at the SCG. :(

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Date: 6/01/2017 04:48:46
From: Tamb
ID: 1006073
Subject: re: Third Test A v P

roughbarked said:


The covers are still on at the SCG. :(

Only the Brits would be perverse enough to invent a game which requires five consecutive days of good weather.

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Date: 6/01/2017 06:16:19
From: roughbarked
ID: 1006125
Subject: re: Third Test A v P

Tamb said:


roughbarked said:

The covers are still on at the SCG. :(

Only the Brits would be perverse enough to invent a game which requires five consecutive days of good weather.

Half an hour after rolling. Which is half an hour from now.

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Date: 6/01/2017 06:39:39
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1006154
Subject: re: Third Test A v P

Tamb said:


roughbarked said:

The covers are still on at the SCG. :(

Only the Brits would be perverse enough to invent a game which requires five consecutive days of good weather.

LOL, Gold.

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Date: 6/01/2017 09:00:46
From: stumpy_seahorse
ID: 1006217
Subject: re: Third Test A v P

in the plums….

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Date: 6/01/2017 09:03:45
From: Tamb
ID: 1006220
Subject: re: Third Test A v P

stumpy_seahorse said:


in the plums….

What’s the story with Wade?

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Date: 6/01/2017 09:05:33
From: stumpy_seahorse
ID: 1006221
Subject: re: Third Test A v P

Tamb said:


stumpy_seahorse said:

in the plums….

What’s the story with Wade?

dunno, just got back from peterborough, so missed the last few hours

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Date: 6/01/2017 09:09:01
From: Tamb
ID: 1006224
Subject: re: Third Test A v P

stumpy_seahorse said:


Tamb said:

stumpy_seahorse said:

in the plums….

What’s the story with Wade?

dunno, just got back from peterborough, so missed the last few hours


Handscomb is keeping for Wade, don’t know why.

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Date: 6/01/2017 09:46:43
From: Ian
ID: 1006245
Subject: re: Third Test A v P

Tamb said:


stumpy_seahorse said:

Tamb said:

What’s the story with Wade?

dunno, just got back from peterborough, so missed the last few hours


Handscomb is keeping for Wade, don’t know why.

Wade in the grip of the gripe.

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Date: 7/01/2017 05:49:15
From: stumpy_seahorse
ID: 1006520
Subject: re: Third Test A v P

Renshaw out with concussion

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Date: 7/01/2017 05:56:39
From: roughbarked
ID: 1006525
Subject: re: Third Test A v P

stumpy_seahorse said:


Renshaw out with concussion

Terrible shame. That’s serious shit. Such a young lad too.

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Date: 7/01/2017 06:11:40
From: Ian
ID: 1006534
Subject: re: Third Test A v P

roughbarked said:


stumpy_seahorse said:

Renshaw out with concussion

Terrible shame. That’s serious shit. Such a young lad too.

That young Border lad looks like an up and comer though…

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Date: 7/01/2017 07:13:31
From: party_pants
ID: 1006553
Subject: re: Third Test A v P

ENFORCE THE FOLLOW-ON YOU FUCK-WITS!

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Date: 7/01/2017 07:14:52
From: stumpy_seahorse
ID: 1006554
Subject: re: Third Test A v P

party_pants said:


ENFORCE THE FOLLOW-ON YOU FUCK-WITS!

Australia hasn’t had a decent captain since our captain had a beard… smh

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Date: 7/01/2017 07:16:57
From: party_pants
ID: 1006555
Subject: re: Third Test A v P

stumpy_seahorse said:


party_pants said:

ENFORCE THE FOLLOW-ON YOU FUCK-WITS!

Australia hasn’t had a decent captain since our captain had a beard… smh

Just because lightning struck Steve Waugh in India about 15 years ago.

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Date: 7/01/2017 07:20:51
From: stumpy_seahorse
ID: 1006556
Subject: re: Third Test A v P

party_pants said:


stumpy_seahorse said:

party_pants said:

ENFORCE THE FOLLOW-ON YOU FUCK-WITS!

Australia hasn’t had a decent captain since our captain had a beard… smh

Just because lightning struck Steve Waugh in India about 15 years ago.

According to this… 1994.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Australia_national_cricket_captains

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Date: 7/01/2017 07:23:03
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1006557
Subject: re: Third Test A v P

WTF is Warner doing, he hit the warmup ball for 4.

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Date: 7/01/2017 07:39:26
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1006559
Subject: re: Third Test A v P

Peak Warming Man said:


WTF is Warner doing, he hit the warmup ball for 4.

Warner’s giving them some tap now.

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Date: 7/01/2017 08:04:57
From: roughbarked
ID: 1006560
Subject: re: Third Test A v P

Silly shot from Warner sees him walk.

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Date: 7/01/2017 09:11:33
From: Dropbear
ID: 1006586
Subject: re: Third Test A v P

party_pants said:


ENFORCE THE FOLLOW-ON YOU FUCK-WITS!

one spook in India and they’re scared for life.

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Date: 7/01/2017 09:14:34
From: Tamb
ID: 1006589
Subject: re: Third Test A v P

Dropbear said:


party_pants said:

ENFORCE THE FOLLOW-ON YOU FUCK-WITS!

one spook in India and they’re scared for life.


The reason given is to save the bowlers two days bowling.
My theory is that taking the Test to two full innings the crowds & the TV get more playing time.

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Date: 7/01/2017 09:22:11
From: party_pants
ID: 1006595
Subject: re: Third Test A v P

Dropbear said:


party_pants said:

ENFORCE THE FOLLOW-ON YOU FUCK-WITS!

one spook in India and they’re scared for life.

Steve Smith would barely have been out of his nappies and toilet-trained back then.

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Date: 8/01/2017 03:38:22
From: Ian
ID: 1006920
Subject: re: Third Test A v P

They’ll never do it.

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Date: 8/01/2017 03:51:25
From: party_pants
ID: 1006925
Subject: re: Third Test A v P

Have faith in Australia’s favourite Nathan.

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Date: 8/01/2017 04:56:57
From: Ian
ID: 1006948
Subject: re: Third Test A v P

Why did they bother with a referral?

On your bike!

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Date: 8/01/2017 06:33:04
From: Ian
ID: 1007065
Subject: re: Third Test A v P

They’ll never do it.

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Date: 8/01/2017 06:34:23
From: AwesomeO
ID: 1007067
Subject: re: Third Test A v P

I always see Alien V Predator.

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Date: 8/01/2017 08:01:15
From: Ian
ID: 1007124
Subject: re: Third Test A v P

They’ll never do it.

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Date: 9/01/2017 07:15:43
From: Ian
ID: 1007614
Subject: re: Third Test A v P

Maybe this thread…

STROKE OF GENIUS

Gideon Haigh

You know the photograph. Even if you don’t know you know it, almost certainly you do. An old-time cricketer captured side-on, in full stride, his bat raised high behind him. The exquisite geometry of the image imprints itself even on an eye unused to reading cricket.

The batsman is the Australian Victor Trumper and the photo – “the shot that changed cricket” of the subtitle – dates from his heyday in the decade following Federation. His record-breaking performance in the 1902 Ashes tour of England made Trumper the first Australian sporting hero. But he died young, and pretty soon his reputation (like every other cricketer’s) would be eclipsed by that of Don Bradman. In Stroke of Genius, Gideon Haigh refracts the story of an all-but-forgotten cricketing legend through the history of photography and image-making, to show the power of preservation that a single picture can possess.

In an era when Australian cricketers were notorious for dawdling at the crease – to maximise, it was said, the duration of a Test match and their share of the gate money – Trumper stood out as a man of action. There was hardly a ball he wouldn’t take on.“Leave it alone, Vic,” his coach would implore. “That wasn’t a ball to go at.” But that wasn’t Trumper’s way: “He seems to have been loath to play defensively at all,” writes Haigh. On his first tour of England, in 1899, Trumper made a record triple-century in a match; more characteristic though was a quick 104, then out.

He was a natural batsman – “all instinct, no calculation” – yet the particulars of his play famously eluded description. Contemporary commentators marvelled opaquely that “he has no style, and yet he is all style”, with a technique “like no other batting”. Even the longest-winded of them had to concede that “Victor Trumper is, perhaps, the most difficult batsman in the world to reduce to words”. Certainly, wrote another, it was difficult “to follow exactly what he was doing with his bat” – difficult, that is, “for the ordinary eye”.

Before 1900, sports coverage relied on words alone. To get a real impression of a cricketer – or footballer, or boxer – in action, you had to be there, at the match. Even though photography had made steady progress since the 1840s, long exposure times still precluded action shots. In 19th-century cricket photos, players pose in team portraits or, individually, lean on a bat or nurse a ball. Match photos took a grandstand vantage point, with spectators forming the foreground and players like ants in the distance.

In 1902, George Beldam, a first-class English cricketer and innovative amateur photographer, set out to capture cricket’s stars in motion – rather than en pose – for purposes both aesthetic and instructive. The result was Great Batsmen, published in 1905, featuring 600 “Action-Photographs”. The once legendary W. G. Grace, middle-aged and portly, was shown in action, as was the athletic Prince Ranjitsinhji. But no great batsman got more coverage than Trumper. Among the book’s images was Plate XXVII, captioned “Jumping out for a straight drive”, the inspiration for Stroke of Genius:

The background verticals of the three little chimney pots and the horizontals of The Oval terraces narrate the bat’s imminent passage down and through the plane of the ball; the open sky in the top right suggests an exit point for the stroke.

In its perfection, writes Haigh, the image represents both the ideal of classic statuary and “an incunabula, a first tracing of the modern action photograph, anticipating its whole grammar of athletic motion and of mass spectacle”.

Gideon Haigh first saw “Jumping out” as an 11-year-old, but he wasn’t the first to swoon over it. Simultaneous with the publication of Great Batsmen, the image was for sale as a photogravure print, suitable for framing, which soon became a staple of hotel bars, cricket clubrooms and boys’ bedrooms. Stroke of Genius traces the image’s appropriation by intervening generations, in formats ranging from advertising to folk art, satire and statuary. The memory of Trumper, evoked by “Jumping out”, has been recruited to represent, variously, the lost innocence of cricket’s “Golden Age” before World War I; a stylistic foil to “the run machine”, Bradman; and an unsullied alternative to a game corrupted by commerce. Now, a century after Trumper’s death, man and image are inseparable: the photo isn’t of Trumper, it is Trumper.

Haigh, cricket-lover and polymath, couldn’t write a dull book if he tried. Ostensibly a cricket book, Stroke of Genius ought to engage even a reader indifferent to the summer game. Sure, there’s an abundance of cricket talk, but Haigh sets it – most of it – in a broader cultural context and, viewed from certain angles, the book equally qualifies as art and social history. Besides which, there’s the joy of encountering words such as “monopsony” and “wristy” (as in “slim, wristy Alan Kippax”).

Honestly, Haigh is a cricket writer like no other. And if he sometimes succumbs to smart aleciness… well, it only adds to the entertainment. In passing, he cites Musil’s The Man without Qualities and philosopher Walter Benjamin’s “optical unconscious”, and he can’t resist noting that the issue of Wisden that marked Trumper’s death in 1915 also reported the death of Rupert Brooke, “who left a corner of an Aegean field forever England by succumbing to sunstroke on Lemnos”.

Then there’s the tale of how an English Test batsman, circa 1950, regarding a print of “Jumping out” in the upstairs tearoom at The Oval, dared to criticise Trumper’s rashness at leaving his wicket so exposed. An old-timer, overhearing, observed with contempt that the speaker “had never in his life been so far out of his crease” – a sledge that surely commends itself to use far beyond cricketing circles.

Saturday Paper

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