Date: 12/01/2017 02:36:07
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1008725
Subject: Alcohol flips brain into hungry mode

Alcohol switches the brain into starvation mode, increasing hunger and appetite, scientists have discovered.

In tests on mice, alcohol activated the brain signals that tell the body to eat more food.

The UK researchers, who report their findings in the journal Nature Communications, believe the same is probably true in humans.

It would explain why many people say they eat more when they have had a few drinks.

Rather than loss of restraint, it is a neuronal response, the Francis Crick Institute team says.

The mice were given generous doses of alcohol for three days – a dose being equivalent to around 18 units or a bottle-and-a-half of wine for a person.

The alcohol caused increased activity in neurons called AGRP. These are the neurons that are fired when the body experiences starvation.

The mice ate more than normal too.

When the researchers repeated the experiment but blocked the neurons with a drug, the mice did not eat as much which, the researchers say, suggests that AGRP neurons are responsible for the alcohol-induced eating.

http://www.bbc.com/news/health-38562048

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Date: 12/01/2017 02:39:56
From: roughbarked
ID: 1008727
Subject: re: Alcohol flips brain into hungry mode

So what’s new? People have always used pre-dinner drinks as appetizers.

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Date: 12/01/2017 02:54:38
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1008729
Subject: re: Alcohol flips brain into hungry mode

roughbarked said:


So what’s new? People have always used pre-dinner drinks as appetizers.

They’ve found the neurons responsible instead of sitting around stroking their beards saying ‘we already knew that’ …

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Date: 12/01/2017 02:57:09
From: roughbarked
ID: 1008730
Subject: re: Alcohol flips brain into hungry mode

poikilotherm said:


roughbarked said:

So what’s new? People have always used pre-dinner drinks as appetizers.

They’ve found the neurons responsible instead of sitting around stroking their beards saying ‘we already knew that’ …

:)

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Date: 12/01/2017 03:07:03
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1008731
Subject: re: Alcohol flips brain into hungry mode

if they study alcohol a bit more they can find out what makes some people violent when they drink it

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Date: 12/01/2017 03:09:17
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1008732
Subject: re: Alcohol flips brain into hungry mode

they can study cannabis too something in cannabis that makes people get the munchies

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Date: 12/01/2017 03:10:00
From: Tamb
ID: 1008733
Subject: re: Alcohol flips brain into hungry mode

Tau.Neutrino said:


if they study alcohol a bit more they can find out what makes some people violent when they drink it

Lowered inhibitions.

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Date: 12/01/2017 03:12:40
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1008734
Subject: re: Alcohol flips brain into hungry mode

Tamb said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

if they study alcohol a bit more they can find out what makes some people violent when they drink it

Lowered inhibitions.

Yes, but why, what is going on chemically.

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Date: 12/01/2017 03:13:34
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1008735
Subject: re: Alcohol flips brain into hungry mode

I have never noticed alcohol giving me the munchies.

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Date: 12/01/2017 03:17:15
From: Tamb
ID: 1008737
Subject: re: Alcohol flips brain into hungry mode

Tau.Neutrino said:


Tamb said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

if they study alcohol a bit more they can find out what makes some people violent when they drink it

Lowered inhibitions.

Yes, but why, what is going on chemically.


Yes. A legitimate field of study.

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Date: 12/01/2017 03:19:43
From: roughbarked
ID: 1008740
Subject: re: Alcohol flips brain into hungry mode

Tamb said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Tamb said:

Lowered inhibitions.

Yes, but why, what is going on chemically.


Yes. A legitimate field of study.

Similar with cannabis in that we have known it increases sensory perception responses. Such as touch and taste.

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Date: 12/01/2017 03:21:52
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1008743
Subject: re: Alcohol flips brain into hungry mode

poikilotherm said:


roughbarked said:

So what’s new? People have always used pre-dinner drinks as appetizers.

They’ve found the neurons responsible instead of sitting around stroking their beards saying ‘we already knew that’ …

like.

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Date: 12/01/2017 03:26:51
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1008748
Subject: re: Alcohol flips brain into hungry mode

Tamb said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Tamb said:

Lowered inhibitions.

Yes, but why, what is going on chemically.


Yes. A legitimate field of study.

and…have either of you done a google scholar search to see if there has been studies done? I would hazard a guess that there is mountains of papers on this topic out there if you care to look.

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Date: 12/01/2017 03:27:02
From: transition
ID: 1008749
Subject: re: Alcohol flips brain into hungry mode

there’s the likelihood too that prioritization of desires puts some on hold while others dominate. This on the surface might look like simple actions of hierarchy of desires at any moment, related homeostasis, but there are in fact day-to-day moment-to-moment attentions (sorta tracking awareness) that required nuanced work that aren’t simply habit. Point being that alcohol is inhibitory, it blunts higher functions for example in humans. Rodents too have something of higher functions. Amongst attentions there are composite micro (if you like) and macro attentions, these aren’t all habit they require re-efforts like of that involved in the complexities of finding food. Having caught a meal and eaten has a reward system, the alcohol likely hijacks that (if you like).

alcohol too is a fluid, typically delivered in a fluid (diluted) and taking food and fluids for hydration are strongly related.

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Date: 12/01/2017 03:27:10
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1008750
Subject: re: Alcohol flips brain into hungry mode

science is research

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Date: 12/01/2017 03:27:29
From: Michael V
ID: 1008751
Subject: re: Alcohol flips brain into hungry mode

poikilotherm said:


roughbarked said:

So what’s new? People have always used pre-dinner drinks as appetizers.

They’ve found the neurons responsible instead of sitting around stroking their beards saying ‘we already knew that’ …

:) :) :)

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Date: 12/01/2017 10:39:06
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1008912
Subject: re: Alcohol flips brain into hungry mode

Tau.Neutrino said:


they can study cannabis too something in cannabis that makes people get the munchies

That would be a more useful study.

With alcohol, all I’ve noticed is that I tend to go for the more fatty foods.

As for why alcohol would work this way – Skinner’s pigeons comes to mind. If you get used to salivating when a bell/achohol occurs then …

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Date: 12/01/2017 10:40:16
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1008913
Subject: re: Alcohol flips brain into hungry mode

Who needs to look at previous research when we can wildly speculate and guess with anecdotes.

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Date: 12/01/2017 10:40:33
From: Arts
ID: 1008914
Subject: re: Alcohol flips brain into hungry mode

mollwollfumble said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

they can study cannabis too something in cannabis that makes people get the munchies

That would be a more useful study.

With alcohol, all I’ve noticed is that I tend to go for the more fatty foods.

As for why alcohol would work this way – Skinner’s pigeons comes to mind. If you get used to salivating when a bell/achohol occurs then …

pigeons?

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Date: 12/01/2017 10:41:10
From: Arts
ID: 1008915
Subject: re: Alcohol flips brain into hungry mode

poikilotherm said:


Who needs to look at previous research when we can wildly speculate and guess with anecdotes.

wild speculation and anecdotes are my favourite

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Date: 12/01/2017 10:46:03
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1008921
Subject: re: Alcohol flips brain into hungry mode

mollwollfumble said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

they can study cannabis too something in cannabis that makes people get the munchies

That would be a more useful study.

With alcohol, all I’ve noticed is that I tend to go for the more fatty foods.

As for why alcohol would work this way – Skinner’s pigeons comes to mind. If you get used to salivating when a bell/achohol occurs then …

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/scientific-explanation-how-marijuana-causes-munchies-180949660/

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Date: 12/01/2017 10:47:19
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1008922
Subject: re: Alcohol flips brain into hungry mode

poikilotherm said:


Who needs to look at previous research when we can wildly speculate and guess with anecdotes.

well, yes. people don’t seem to a basic search before posting that we need research. fucking annoys the shit outta me. the whole of the internet and they can’t be arsed to use it.

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Date: 12/01/2017 10:48:20
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1008924
Subject: re: Alcohol flips brain into hungry mode

ChrispenEvan said:


poikilotherm said:

Who needs to look at previous research when we can wildly speculate and guess with anecdotes.

well, yes. people don’t seem to a basic search before posting that we need research. fucking annoys the shit outta me. the whole of the internet and they can’t be arsed to use it.

and now we’ll get post after post of papers.

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Date: 12/01/2017 11:39:02
From: Ian
ID: 1008954
Subject: re: Alcohol flips brain into hungry mode

Tamb said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Tamb said:

Lowered inhibitions.

Yes, but why, what is going on chemically.


Yes. A legitimate field of study.

Nice work if you can get it.

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