This video is 41 minutes long but you should watch it anyway.

Shaun and Jen: Outrage News

dv said:

This video is 41 minutes long but you should watch it anyway.

Shaun and Jen: Outrage News

Okay.

dv said:

This video is 41 minutes long but you should watch it anyway.

Shaun and Jen: Outrage News

Summarise, please.

mollwollfumble said:

dv said:

This video is 41 minutes long but you should watch it anyway.

Shaun and Jen: Outrage News

Summarise, please.

Several points are covered.
An industry exists that makes money out of fomenting outrage against minorities on the basis of fake news. Examples are given, including Breitbart and Teal Deer. Evidence is presented showing that it results from deliberate deception rather than simply sloppy journalism.
Reasons why large sections of the public are willing to accept fairly obvious lies are discussed, again with examples.

Morning. Had a minor bingle this morning … at a two lane roundabout.

Cloudy and warm in the styx.

poikilotherm said:

Morning. Had a minor bingle this morning … at a two lane roundabout.

Cloudy and warm in the styx.

Still shuddering from yesterday’s near miss. The roundabout in question is in a very short street just prior to a set of traffic lights on a railway crossing. I looked, there was no cars(the lights hold them up on one side), and started into the roundabout. Suddenly there is a 4×4with a bullbar trying to Tbone me from the right side. At this moment I’m in the roundabout and he’s going to hit me on the back wheel at best but he had only 30 metres to appear from nowhere in and the irony I always note at this roundabout is that they are risking accidents in order to have to stop within 15 metres at a red light?

Whatever happened to inner health and outward courtesy?

roughbarked said:

poikilotherm said:

Morning. Had a minor bingle this morning … at a two lane roundabout.

Cloudy and warm in the styx.

Still shuddering from yesterday’s near miss. The roundabout in question is in a very short street just prior to a set of traffic lights on a railway crossing. I looked, there was no cars(the lights hold them up on one side), and started into the roundabout. Suddenly there is a 4×4with a bullbar trying to Tbone me from the right side. At this moment I’m in the roundabout and he’s going to hit me on the back wheel at best but he had only 30 metres to appear from nowhere in and the irony I always note at this roundabout is that they are risking accidents in order to have to stop within 15 metres at a red light?

Whatever happened to inner health and outward courtesy?

Giving way to the right is overrated…

Stumpy_seahorse said:

roughbarked said:

poikilotherm said:

Morning. Had a minor bingle this morning … at a two lane roundabout.

Cloudy and warm in the styx.

Still shuddering from yesterday’s near miss. The roundabout in question is in a very short street just prior to a set of traffic lights on a railway crossing. I looked, there was no cars(the lights hold them up on one side), and started into the roundabout. Suddenly there is a 4×4with a bullbar trying to Tbone me from the right side. At this moment I’m in the roundabout and he’s going to hit me on the back wheel at best but he had only 30 metres to appear from nowhere in and the irony I always note at this roundabout is that they are risking accidents in order to have to stop within 15 metres at a red light?

Whatever happened to inner health and outward courtesy?

Giving way to the right is overrated…

Giving way to the right, isn’t a requirement in a roundabout, particularly if you are already in the roundabout.

roughbarked said:

Stumpy_seahorse said:

roughbarked said:

Still shuddering from yesterday’s near miss. The roundabout in question is in a very short street just prior to a set of traffic lights on a railway crossing. I looked, there was no cars(the lights hold them up on one side), and started into the roundabout. Suddenly there is a 4×4with a bullbar trying to Tbone me from the right side. At this moment I’m in the roundabout and he’s going to hit me on the back wheel at best but he had only 30 metres to appear from nowhere in and the irony I always note at this roundabout is that they are risking accidents in order to have to stop within 15 metres at a red light?

Whatever happened to inner health and outward courtesy?

Giving way to the right is overrated…

Giving way to the right, isn’t a requirement in a roundabout, particularly if you are already in the roundabout.

“ if you are already in the roundabout”
That’s the key phrase. All other vehicles entering the roundabout must give way to vehicles already on the roundabout.

Tamb said:

roughbarked said:

Stumpy_seahorse said:

Giving way to the right is overrated…

Giving way to the right, isn’t a requirement in a roundabout, particularly if you are already in the roundabout.

“ if you are already in the roundabout”
That’s the key phrase. All other vehicles entering the roundabout must give way to vehicles already on the roundabout.

Which most take as a right to attempt to slam themselves into the roundabout ahead of any other. I’ve seen people stop and allow the whole stream of ten to twenty cars on the right through because they are more timid than any car on their right side. It can be very frustrating if you happen to be behind that car and there are no ways around.

roughbarked said:

Tamb said:

roughbarked said:

Giving way to the right, isn’t a requirement in a roundabout, particularly if you are already in the roundabout.

“ if you are already in the roundabout”
That’s the key phrase. All other vehicles entering the roundabout must give way to vehicles already on the roundabout.

Which most take as a right to attempt to slam themselves into the roundabout ahead of any other. I’ve seen people stop and allow the whole stream of ten to twenty cars on the right through because they are more timid than any car on their right side. It can be very frustrating if you happen to be behind that car and there are no ways around.

It’s only a few extra seconds delay which is way quicker than the time it takes to sort out the aftermath of an accident.

Should probably move roundabout discussion to chat…dv will get all excited thinking people actually watched a 41 minute video about something he posted.

poikilotherm said:

Morning. Had a minor bingle this morning … at a two lane roundabout.

Cloudy and warm in the styx.

How outraged were you/they? Or was there outrageous driving/road conditions involved?

poikilotherm said:

Should probably move roundabout discussion to chat…dv will get all excited thinking people actually watched a 41 minute video about something he posted.

I made it 28:09 in and had to take a two hour nap. With a heating pad and one cat.

(It is actually interesting, but my knee was tired.)

Morning Pilgrims.
A pinch and a punch.

dv said:

mollwollfumble said:

dv said:

This video is 41 minutes long but you should watch it anyway.

Shaun and Jen: Outrage News

Summarise, please.

Several points are covered.
An industry exists that makes money out of fomenting outrage against minorities on the basis of fake news. Examples are given, including Breitbart and Teal Deer. Evidence is presented showing that it results from deliberate deception rather than simply sloppy journalism.
Reasons why large sections of the public are willing to accept fairly obvious lies are discussed, again with examples.

The ABC News does that. Not on the basis of fake news, partly by using pejorative language, but mostly by interviewing and continual repetition of the views of racists. The purpose, so far as I can tell, is the same, to create hatred.

Peak Warming Man said:

Morning Pilgrims.
A pinch and a punch.

Sorry.

Peak Warming Man said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Morning Pilgrims.
A pinch and a punch.

Sorry.

Yeah! That hurt!

roughbarked said:

poikilotherm said:

Morning. Had a minor bingle this morning … at a two lane roundabout.

Cloudy and warm in the styx.

Still shuddering from yesterday’s near miss. The roundabout in question is in a very short street just prior to a set of traffic lights on a railway crossing. I looked, there was no cars(the lights hold them up on one side), and started into the roundabout. Suddenly there is a 4×4 with a bullbar trying to Tbone me from the right side. At this moment I’m in the roundabout and he’s going to hit me on the back wheel at best but he had only 30 metres to appear from nowhere in and the irony I always note at this roundabout is that they are risking accidents in order to have to stop within 15 metres at a red light?

Whatever happened to inner health and outward courtesy?

Was startled the first time I saw a 4×4 with bullbar drive straight over the top of a roundabout as if it was a speed bump. That was ten years ago.

Steve Bannon is calling the shots in the White House. That’s terrifying

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jan/31/steve-bannon-most-dangerous-man-in-america

mollwollfumble said:

dv said:

mollwollfumble said:

Summarise, please.

Several points are covered.
An industry exists that makes money out of fomenting outrage against minorities on the basis of fake news. Examples are given, including Breitbart and Teal Deer. Evidence is presented showing that it results from deliberate deception rather than simply sloppy journalism.
Reasons why large sections of the public are willing to accept fairly obvious lies are discussed, again with examples.

The ABC News does that. Not on the basis of fake news, partly by using pejorative language, but mostly by interviewing and continual repetition of the views of racists. The purpose, so far as I can tell, is the same, to create hatred.

Can you give an example of the ABC News using pejorative language to create hatred against minorities?

dv said:

mollwollfumble said:

dv said:

This video is 41 minutes long but you should watch it anyway.

Shaun and Jen: Outrage News

Summarise, please.

Several points are covered.
An industry exists that makes money out of fomenting outrage against minorities on the basis of fake news. Examples are given, including Breitbart and Teal Deer. Evidence is presented showing that it results from deliberate deception rather than simply sloppy journalism.
Reasons why large sections of the public are willing to accept fairly obvious lies are discussed, again with examples.

I agree, outrage often seems to be made up to fool people into persecuting some minority or people are outraged on behalf of a minority group without actually talking to people from that minority. Or outrage is made up to get free publicity and the origins are hard to pin down. Examples of things like Muslims want Christmas banned when they haven’t even thought about such a thing let alone asked for it to occur and it appeals to closet racists who need some justification to make racist thoughts into speech.

http://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/mother-matthew-shepard-speaks-out-against-sessions-confirmation-n714656

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The baggage retrieval system at Heathrow is fucked.

Peak Warming Man said:

The baggage retrieval system at Heathrow is fucked.

It’s outrageous. I’m absolutely appalled. The Environmental Impact Study is flawed, and there was insufficient community consultation. I call for the minister to resign, and the Ambassador to be recalled. The perpetrators must be bought before the International Court of Justice, and an urgent meeting convened of the United Nations Security Council with the resolution be put demanding an immediate ceasefire and an end to all hostilities..

Woodie said:

Peak Warming Man said:

The baggage retrieval system at Heathrow is fucked.

It’s outrageous. I’m absolutely appalled. The Environmental Impact Study is flawed, and there was insufficient community consultation. I call for the minister to resign, and the Ambassador to be recalled. The perpetrators must be bought before the International Court of Justice, and an urgent meeting convened of the United Nations Security Council with the resolution be put demanding an immediate ceasefire and an end to all hostilities..

Well said!

Peak Warming Man said:

The baggage retrieval system at Heathrow is fucked.

thank god I’m not a pom.

Woodie said:

Peak Warming Man said:

The baggage retrieval system at Heathrow is fucked.

It’s outrageous. I’m absolutely appalled. The Environmental Impact Study is flawed, and there was insufficient community consultation. I call for the minister to resign, and the Ambassador to be recalled. The perpetrators must be bought before the International Court of Justice, and an urgent meeting convened of the United Nations Security Council with the resolution be put demanding an immediate ceasefire and an end to all hostilities..

Can’t Donald Trump do something to remedy the situation?

captain_spalding said:

Woodie said:

Peak Warming Man said:

The baggage retrieval system at Heathrow is fucked.

It’s outrageous. I’m absolutely appalled. The Environmental Impact Study is flawed, and there was insufficient community consultation. I call for the minister to resign, and the Ambassador to be recalled. The perpetrators must be bought before the International Court of Justice, and an urgent meeting convened of the United Nations Security Council with the resolution be put demanding an immediate ceasefire and an end to all hostilities..

Can’t Donald Trump do something to remedy the situation?

I bet he can make it worse :)

party_pants said:

captain_spalding said:

Woodie said:

It’s outrageous. I’m absolutely appalled. The Environmental Impact Study is flawed, and there was insufficient community consultation. I call for the minister to resign, and the Ambassador to be recalled. The perpetrators must be bought before the International Court of Justice, and an urgent meeting convened of the United Nations Security Council with the resolution be put demanding an immediate ceasefire and an end to all hostilities..

Can’t Donald Trump do something to remedy the situation?

I bet he can make it worse :)

He could fart, he does that a lot.

captain_spalding said:

Woodie said:

Peak Warming Man said:

The baggage retrieval system at Heathrow is fucked.

It’s outrageous. I’m absolutely appalled. The Environmental Impact Study is flawed, and there was insufficient community consultation. I call for the minister to resign, and the Ambassador to be recalled. The perpetrators must be bought before the International Court of Justice, and an urgent meeting convened of the United Nations Security Council with the resolution be put demanding an immediate ceasefire and an end to all hostilities..

Can’t Donald Trump do something to remedy the situation?

If he can solve 9 wars, then The Orange Shitgibbon can surely fix a fucked baggage retrieval system at Heathrow. P’raps a 200% tariff on the baggage retrieval system at Heathrow maybe?

captain_spalding said:

Woodie said:

Peak Warming Man said:

The baggage retrieval system at Heathrow is fucked.

It’s outrageous. I’m absolutely appalled. The Environmental Impact Study is flawed, and there was insufficient community consultation. I call for the minister to resign, and the Ambassador to be recalled. The perpetrators must be bought before the International Court of Justice, and an urgent meeting convened of the United Nations Security Council with the resolution be put demanding an immediate ceasefire and an end to all hostilities..

Can’t Donald Trump do something to remedy the situation?

You’re TIM (The Ideas Man)!

Woodie said:

Peak Warming Man said:

The baggage retrieval system at Heathrow is fucked.

It’s outrageous. I’m absolutely appalled. The Environmental Impact Study is flawed, and there was insufficient community consultation. I call for the minister to resign, and the Ambassador to be recalled. The perpetrators must be bought before the International Court of Justice, and an urgent meeting convened of the United Nations Security Council with the resolution be put demanding an immediate ceasefire and an end to all hostilities..

Whispers quietly – don’t mention the escalator stopping