Date: 9/02/2017 07:55:28
From: stan101
ID: 1022233
Subject: To Ian - Tiling

Ian, I only just saw your message about the tiling. If you have used sikaflex to stop the leaking then the idea of a waterproofing membrane and bond breaker might not be useful.

A membrane is a product that is usually painted onto a prepped surface in several coats. Each coat being laid down at 90 degrees to the last and allowed to dry. Afterdrying the the membrance becomes waterproff and mildly flexible.

The bond breaker is used in a change of direction such as a wall to floor intersection or in an expansion gap in long continuous areas. The bond breaker might be foam or tape or similar material that can deform and allows for flexing of walls and floors without cracking the waterproofing membrane.

Page 4 of this PDF gives you a section showing what I mean. http://www.parexgroup.com.my/images/specification/waterproofing.pdf

All the best with it.

Reply Quote

Date: 9/02/2017 12:33:15
From: Ian
ID: 1022400
Subject: re: To Ian - Tiling

Thanks a lot stan for the tip about the bond breaker.

I have thoroughly researched removing tiles intact from fibre cement lining boards and come to the conclusion that it can’t be done.

However, if I can remove the lining boards with tiles still attached I think a solution may still be possible. Cutting into the corners could be tricky. I think that a new power tool (ha ha) may be required. A multifunction tool might be the go.

Anyone here had any experience with one of these? Any other thoughts on removing lining boards with tiles?

I have enough floor tiles left to rip up the whole floor and redo it from scratch.

Reply Quote

Date: 9/02/2017 12:35:33
From: AwesomeO
ID: 1022401
Subject: re: To Ian - Tiling

No help to you but I have just had a brain wave. A plastic or acrylic cubicle type thing that you can put in the recess where a shower goes, plumb in some taps and a drain and its leak proof and if you like the look of tiles you can still tile the floor and sides.

Where’s the investors?

Reply Quote

Date: 9/02/2017 12:38:29
From: stumpy_seahorse
ID: 1022402
Subject: re: To Ian - Tiling

AwesomeO said:


No help to you but I have just had a brain wave. A plastic or acrylic cubicle type thing that you can put in the recess where a shower goes, plumb in some taps and a drain and its leak proof and if you like the look of tiles you can still tile the floor and sides.

Where’s the investors?

that’s pretty much what I had in Tas

Reply Quote

Date: 9/02/2017 12:39:13
From: furious
ID: 1022403
Subject: re: To Ian - Tiling

Doesn’t that exist?

Reply Quote

Date: 9/02/2017 12:43:17
From: AwesomeO
ID: 1022404
Subject: re: To Ian - Tiling

furious said:

  • No help to you but I have just had a brain wave. A plastic or acrylic cubicle type thing that you can put in the recess where a shower goes, plumb in some taps and a drain and its leak proof and if you like the look of tiles you can still tile the floor and sides.

Doesn’t that exist?

Probably, my brain waves always are.

Reply Quote

Date: 9/02/2017 12:47:57
From: stumpy_seahorse
ID: 1022405
Subject: re: To Ian - Tiling

AwesomeO said:


furious said:
  • No help to you but I have just had a brain wave. A plastic or acrylic cubicle type thing that you can put in the recess where a shower goes, plumb in some taps and a drain and its leak proof and if you like the look of tiles you can still tile the floor and sides.

Doesn’t that exist?

Probably, my brain waves always are.

this one is 2 perspex boards hinged in the middle against the walls

Reply Quote

Date: 9/02/2017 12:52:27
From: Ian
ID: 1022406
Subject: re: To Ian - Tiling

stumpy_seahorse said:


AwesomeO said:

No help to you but I have just had a brain wave. A plastic or acrylic cubicle type thing that you can put in the recess where a shower goes, plumb in some taps and a drain and its leak proof and if you like the look of tiles you can still tile the floor and sides.

Where’s the investors?

that’s pretty much what I had in Tas

Yes they exist and it is yet another possible solution that I have considered. The don’t come in may different sizes however, and my shower is a non-standard size – 1100 × 1000mm

Reply Quote

Date: 9/02/2017 12:53:23
From: furious
ID: 1022407
Subject: re: To Ian - Tiling

Or a simple donga shower:

Reply Quote

Date: 11/02/2017 12:38:15
From: stan101
ID: 1023425
Subject: re: To Ian - Tiling

Ian said:

However, if I can remove the lining boards with tiles still attached I think a solution may still be possible. Cutting into the corners could be tricky. I think that a new power tool (ha ha) may be required. A multifunction tool might be the go.

/quote]

A dremel type small circular cutting blade might be okay. Be careful if the house is old, the fibre cement sheeting may be asbestos… If it is not, cut away.

The board will be fixed to the stud wall with adhesive (if reasonably recent construction) and nails / screws. Cement sheet was usually nailed on.. You will need to gently lever the board away from the wall stud, then I would use a hacksaw blade or small reciprocating blade tool to cut through every nail if they do not pull away with gentle prying… It might work, it might not.

Good Luck.

Reply Quote

Date: 11/02/2017 12:42:21
From: roughbarked
ID: 1023429
Subject: re: To Ian - Tiling

stan101 said:


Ian said:

However, if I can remove the lining boards with tiles still attached I think a solution may still be possible. Cutting into the corners could be tricky. I think that a new power tool (ha ha) may be required. A multifunction tool might be the go.

/quote]

A dremel type small circular cutting blade might be okay. Be careful if the house is old, the fibre cement sheeting may be asbestos… If it is not, cut away.

The board will be fixed to the stud wall with adhesive (if reasonably recent construction) and nails / screws. Cement sheet was usually nailed on.. You will need to gently lever the board away from the wall stud, then I would use a hacksaw blade or small reciprocating blade tool to cut through every nail if they do not pull away with gentle prying… It might work, it might not.

Good Luck.

If you have the right tools, you can grind the heads off all the nails.

Reply Quote

Date: 11/02/2017 13:01:18
From: Ian
ID: 1023442
Subject: re: To Ian - Tiling

stan101 said:


Ian said:

However, if I can remove the lining boards with tiles still attached I think a solution may still be possible. Cutting into the corners could be tricky. I think that a new power tool (ha ha) may be required. A multifunction tool might be the go.

/quote]

A dremel type small circular cutting blade might be okay. Be careful if the house is old, the fibre cement sheeting may be asbestos… If it is not, cut away.

The board will be fixed to the stud wall with adhesive (if reasonably recent construction) and nails / screws. Cement sheet was usually nailed on.. You will need to gently lever the board away from the wall stud, then I would use a hacksaw blade or small reciprocating blade tool to cut through every nail if they do not pull away with gentle prying… It might work, it might not.

Good Luck.

There is no asbestos. I have all of those tools (new muti-tool has been added to the kit bag) and I can afford to break a fair few tiles.

Thanks for reminding me about the old hacksaw blade trick.

I don’t think it will easy by any means.. I can only try.

Thanks again.

Reply Quote

Date: 11/02/2017 13:04:28
From: stumpy_seahorse
ID: 1023443
Subject: re: To Ian - Tiling

roughbarked said:


stan101 said:

Ian said:

However, if I can remove the lining boards with tiles still attached I think a solution may still be possible. Cutting into the corners could be tricky. I think that a new power tool (ha ha) may be required. A multifunction tool might be the go.

/quote]

A dremel type small circular cutting blade might be okay. Be careful if the house is old, the fibre cement sheeting may be asbestos… If it is not, cut away.

The board will be fixed to the stud wall with adhesive (if reasonably recent construction) and nails / screws. Cement sheet was usually nailed on.. You will need to gently lever the board away from the wall stud, then I would use a hacksaw blade or small reciprocating blade tool to cut through every nail if they do not pull away with gentle prying… It might work, it might not.

Good Luck.

If you have the right tools, you can grind the heads off all the nails.

if you are removing the lining with the tiles still attached, then the nail heads will be inaccessible.. between the tiles and lining, so it doesnt matter what tol you have, you wont be able to grind the heads off..

Reply Quote

Date: 11/02/2017 13:05:22
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1023444
Subject: re: To Ian - Tiling

Friday night drinks and then I had dinner …. lean cuisine chorizo meal and a small portion garlic bread. Not too bad …now enjoying some water to drink

Reply Quote

Date: 11/02/2017 13:46:56
From: stan101
ID: 1023483
Subject: re: To Ian - Tiling

roughbarked said:

If you have the right tools, you can grind the heads off all the nails.

To get to the nail heads, you would first need to take off the tiles. If Ian could take off the tiles there is no need to take off the cement sheet.

Reply Quote

Date: 11/02/2017 13:51:43
From: roughbarked
ID: 1023491
Subject: re: To Ian - Tiling

stan101 said:


roughbarked said:

If you have the right tools, you can grind the heads off all the nails.

To get to the nail heads, you would first need to take off the tiles. If Ian could take off the tiles there is no need to take off the cement sheet.

Sorry, I must have misread something about having to deal with nails.. Go and bother the person who mentioned that.

Reply Quote