While reading the article in a recent thread, I came across a link to the following article:

Men who buy sex have much in common with sexually coercive men

In this article, it was said:

article said:

“We hope this research will lead to a rejection of the myth that sex buyers are simply sexually frustrated nice guys,” said Melissa Farley, the study’s lead author and executive director of Prostitution Research and Education, a San Francisco-based nonprofit.

It would seem that she got the result that she was hoping for.

KJW said:

While reading the article in a recent thread, I came across a link to the following article:

Men who buy sex have much in common with sexually coercive men

In this article, it was said:

article said:

“We hope this research will lead to a rejection of the myth that sex buyers are simply sexually frustrated nice guys,” said Melissa Farley, the study’s lead author and executive director of Prostitution Research and Education, a San Francisco-based nonprofit.

It would seem that she got the result that she was hoping for.

Us drones are driven to serve.

Don’t they just use the disreputable “dating” apps these days instead of paying for it?

article said:

“However, given the significant levels of sexually aggressive attitudes and behavior found in sex buyers, a more progressive legal policy would be like that seen in Sweden and Norway, where prostitution is understood as a predatory crime against economically and ethnically marginalized women,” she said. “The Nordic model arrests sex buyers but decriminalizes those in prostitution and provides them with exit services.”

Non sequitur.

The article strikes me as an example of misandry.

It’s complicated. There are sex workers who are positive about their jobs, but also sex workers who are being exploited and who would rather be doing something else.

As for their customers, I agree with party_pants that it seems odd there’s still a demand in this day & age.

OK, let’s split men who buy sex into two groups.

1. Nice guys who can’t get enough.

2. Nasty guys with a disgusting fetish.

Problem solved.

Bubblecar said:

It’s complicated. There are sex workers who are positive about their jobs, but also sex workers who are being exploited and who would rather be doing something else.

As for their customers, I agree with party_pants that it seems odd there’s still a demand in this day & age.

It is apparently the oldest profession.
Not that I’ve ever partaken of the wares provided.

I’m reminded of a line in a Bushwhackers song. “walking streets and wedding rings are sometimes much the same”.

mollwollfumble said:

OK, let’s split men who buy sex into two groups.

1. Nice guys who can’t get enough.

2. Nasty guys with a disgusting fetish.

Problem solved.

I’m afraid that is probably too simplistic an approach that in proprtion isn’t simplistic enough.

John Cleese reckoned it cost him 20 million.
A Mariage that is..

Money talks.

Bubblecar said:

As for their customers, I agree with party_pants that it seems odd there’s still a demand in this day & age.

seriously??

The thing about buying sex is that it’s simple and it’s readily available (probably more now than ever before). It offers people a way to have sex without a need for any ‘effort’ on their side… no going out, no small talk, no bars or dinner dates… just hand over your cash monies and get the service you paid for.

It’s an industry ripe for exploitation and abuse regardless of if its legal or not, but you’d probably be much better of as a sex worker in a first world nation than some poor women forced into it in poor nation.

diddly-squat said:

Bubblecar said:

As for their customers, I agree with party_pants that it seems odd there’s still a demand in this day & age.

seriously??

The thing about buying sex is that it’s simple and it’s readily available (probably more now than ever before). It offers people a way to have sex without a need for any ‘effort’ on their side… no going out, no small talk, no bars or dinner dates… just hand over your cash monies and get the service you paid for.

Like whatsisname said: “You’re not paying them for sex. You’re paying them to leave afterwards.”

dv said:

diddly-squat said:

Bubblecar said:

As for their customers, I agree with party_pants that it seems odd there’s still a demand in this day & age.

seriously??

The thing about buying sex is that it’s simple and it’s readily available (probably more now than ever before). It offers people a way to have sex without a need for any ‘effort’ on their side… no going out, no small talk, no bars or dinner dates… just hand over your cash monies and get the service you paid for.

Like whatsisname said: “You’re not paying them for sex. You’re paying them to leave afterwards.”

having spent a considerable amount of time in SEA, I can tell you there is a very large demand for a sex industry…

even that aside.. there is a brothel not 10 min drive from my house, and that’s suburban Brisbane…

dv said:

diddly-squat said:

Bubblecar said:

As for their customers, I agree with party_pants that it seems odd there’s still a demand in this day & age.

seriously??

The thing about buying sex is that it’s simple and it’s readily available (probably more now than ever before). It offers people a way to have sex without a need for any ‘effort’ on their side… no going out, no small talk, no bars or dinner dates… just hand over your cash monies and get the service you paid for.

Like whatsisname said: “You’re not paying them for sex. You’re paying them to leave afterwards.”

ROFL

It seems that I’m out of date on this.

I was surprised to see that it is illegal to buy sex in Nordic countries, but not to sell it, but Bing tells me that it is now also illegal in Canada, which I find really surprising.

I suppose the old laws, where buying was legal, but selling illegal, were even worse, but I can’t see how a modern supposedly free democratic country can make a financial arrangement between two consenting adults illegal when it has no effect on anybody else.

I also greatly doubt that making it illegal to buy sex does anything to benefit the women (or male prostitutes for that matter).

diddly-squat said:

Bubblecar said:

As for their customers, I agree with party_pants that it seems odd there’s still a demand in this day & age.

seriously??

The thing about buying sex is that it’s simple and it’s readily available (probably more now than ever before). It offers people a way to have sex without a need for any ‘effort’ on their side… no going out, no small talk, no bars or dinner dates… just hand over your cash monies and get the service you paid for.

Yes but you can do the same via geosocial networking without having to pay anyone. But I suppose some people just prefer to pay, and there’s likely to be uneven demand re male-female sex.

The Rev Dodgson said:

It seems that I’m out of date on this.

I was surprised to see that it is illegal to buy sex in Nordic countries, but not to sell it, but Bing tells me that it is now also illegal in Canada, which I find really surprising.

I suppose the old laws, where buying was legal, but selling illegal, were even worse, but I can’t see how a modern supposedly free democratic country can make a financial arrangement between two consenting adults illegal when it has no effect on anybody else.

I also greatly doubt that making it illegal to buy sex does anything to benefit the women (or male prostitutes for that matter).

It’s an ideological thing. Anti-sex-work campaigners aren’t interested in the views of sex workers, who understandably favour decriminalisation and regulation.

Bubblecar said:

diddly-squat said:

Bubblecar said:

As for their customers, I agree with party_pants that it seems odd there’s still a demand in this day & age.

seriously??

The thing about buying sex is that it’s simple and it’s readily available (probably more now than ever before). It offers people a way to have sex without a need for any ‘effort’ on their side… no going out, no small talk, no bars or dinner dates… just hand over your cash monies and get the service you paid for.

Yes but you can do the same via geosocial networking without having to pay anyone. But I suppose some people just prefer to pay, and there’s likely to be uneven demand re male-female sex.

I haven’t actually checked, but I assumed that supposedly free sex offered on the Internet actually did involve payment of some sort.

Bubblecar said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

It seems that I’m out of date on this.

I was surprised to see that it is illegal to buy sex in Nordic countries, but not to sell it, but Bing tells me that it is now also illegal in Canada, which I find really surprising.

I suppose the old laws, where buying was legal, but selling illegal, were even worse, but I can’t see how a modern supposedly free democratic country can make a financial arrangement between two consenting adults illegal when it has no effect on anybody else.

I also greatly doubt that making it illegal to buy sex does anything to benefit the women (or male prostitutes for that matter).

It’s an ideological thing. Anti-sex-work campaigners aren’t interested in the views of sex workers, who understandably favour decriminalisation and regulation.

Why would you be anti-sex work you should be campaigning for it to be safe for those that provide the service

The Rev Dodgson said:

I haven’t actually checked, but I assumed that supposedly free sex offered on the Internet actually did involve payment of some sort.

I’m talking about people who want sex linking up via Grindr etc. Mind you I’ve never delved into that myself :)

I dare say this is a complex issue. On one hand the sex-workers don’t want the law interfering with their income, but on the other hand there are broader issues about how prostitution could negatively affects society as a whole. My gut feeling is that it is probably something that is going to happen anyway even if illegal, so it is better that it is legal so that it can be regulated and taxed so that the government can afford to cover George Christensen’s lunch, but I’m not a sociologist.

Bubblecar said:

diddly-squat said:

Bubblecar said:

As for their customers, I agree with party_pants that it seems odd there’s still a demand in this day & age.

seriously??

The thing about buying sex is that it’s simple and it’s readily available (probably more now than ever before). It offers people a way to have sex without a need for any ‘effort’ on their side… no going out, no small talk, no bars or dinner dates… just hand over your cash monies and get the service you paid for.

Yes but you can do the same via geosocial networking without having to pay anyone. But I suppose some people just prefer to pay, and there’s likely to be uneven demand re male-female sex.

Tinder isn’t Grinder…

Cymek said:

Why would you be anti-sex work you should be campaigning for it to be safe for those that provide the service

Sex robots might put paid to the whole industry eventually. But then I suppose there would be specialised brothels featuring deluxe sex robots.

Bubblecar said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

I haven’t actually checked, but I assumed that supposedly free sex offered on the Internet actually did involve payment of some sort.

I’m talking about people who want sex linking up via Grindr etc. Mind you I’ve never delved into that myself :)

dv said:

Bubblecar said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

I haven’t actually checked, but I assumed that supposedly free sex offered on the Internet actually did involve payment of some sort.

I’m talking about people who want sex linking up via Grindr etc. Mind you I’ve never delved into that myself :)

diddly-squat said:

dv said:

Bubblecar said:

I’m talking about people who want sex linking up via Grindr etc. Mind you I’ve never delved into that myself :)

That’s a rather disturbing gif

Bubblecar said:

Cymek said:

Why would you be anti-sex work you should be campaigning for it to be safe for those that provide the service

Sex robots might put paid to the whole industry eventually. But then I suppose there would be specialised brothels featuring deluxe sex robots.

A new service industry job, cleaning the robots…

poikilotherm said:

Bubblecar said:

Cymek said:

Why would you be anti-sex work you should be campaigning for it to be safe for those that provide the service

Sex robots might put paid to the whole industry eventually. But then I suppose there would be specialised brothels featuring deluxe sex robots.

A new service industry job, cleaning the robots…

You’d think they’d have disposable bags like vacuum cleaners do.

roughbarked said:

poikilotherm said:

Bubblecar said:

Sex robots might put paid to the whole industry eventually. But then I suppose there would be specialised brothels featuring deluxe sex robots.

A new service industry job, cleaning the robots…

You’d think they’d have disposable bags like vacuum cleaners do.

ah, you’ve tried the vacuum cleaner eh…

stumpy_seahorse said:

roughbarked said:

poikilotherm said:

A new service industry job, cleaning the robots…

You’d think they’d have disposable bags like vacuum cleaners do.

ah, you’ve tried the vacuum cleaner eh…

I knew that was coming as I typed vac… ;)

vacuum cleaners suck.

Woodie said:

vacuum cleaners suck.

Woodie said:

vacuum cleaners suck.

Some Blow

Sex workers don’t just do intercourse. Some men just want a “girlfriend experience”. Some want intimacy. Some want to talk. Some want what their wives/girlfriends won’t do. It’s a varied world of sex work.

Divine Angel said:

Some men just want a “girlfriend experience”.

They pay someone to go through their text messages and tell them to tuck their shirt in