I’ll be watching this one tonight. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-02-13/four-corners-complementary-medicine-supplements-chemists/8260408

My question to people like poik would be, are these products on the shelves because of competition and bottom lines? Meaning if they weren’t on your shelves then could you survive against the competition?

or should all such products be moved to ‘heath food’ stores? ;)

roughbarked said:

I’ll be watching this one tonight. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-02-13/four-corners-complementary-medicine-supplements-chemists/8260408

My question to people like poik would be, are these products on the shelves because of competition and bottom lines? Meaning if they weren’t on your shelves then could you survive against the competition?

Yes. No.

:)

I have noticed that many products sold in chemists do bear the information. “the effect of xxxxxxxxx in reducing the severity of durations of throat infections has not been clinically established”.

Yet I’ve never been informed of this by the person recommending it.

The range of homeopathic shit I was offered through various stages of babyhood was staggering. Homeopathic cures for everything from colic to teething pain to various skin issues. It was often the first thing offered.

Divine Angel said:

The range of homeopathic shit I was offered through various stages of babyhood was staggering. Homeopathic cures for everything from colic to teething pain to various skin issues. It was often the first thing offered.

Placebo for the parent, probably works in most cases ;).

My chemist happens to be next to a grog shop. I suspect that might work better for the parents :)

Divine Angel said:

My chemist happens to be next to a grog shop. I suspect that might work better for the parents :)

Would be good to sell grog and cigs, would have them from the very start of escapism to the phlegmy, wheezy, jaundiced end.

I guess they tap into some of that alluring abundance you might experience in a large shopping centre, but also have the added power of the witchdoctors prescribing things, along with a culture of medicalization, and having money to (show and) spend eases anxieties too.

A little anecdote while i’m about it, of happy accidents and the practicalities of supplements.

If I didn’t discover Zinc, and that I was Zn deficient, i’d probably be dead.

transition said:

I guess they tap into some of that alluring abundance you might experience in a large shopping centre, but also have the added power of the witchdoctors prescribing things, along with a culture of medicalization, and having money to (show and) spend eases anxieties too.

A little anecdote while i’m about it, of happy accidents and the practicalities of supplements.

If I didn’t discover Zinc, and that I was Zn deficient, i’d probably be dead.

Don’t doctors check for stuff like that, even if you haven’t discovered it for yourself?

The Rev Dodgson said:

transition said:

I guess they tap into some of that alluring abundance you might experience in a large shopping centre, but also have the added power of the witchdoctors prescribing things, along with a culture of medicalization, and having money to (show and) spend eases anxieties too.

A little anecdote while i’m about it, of happy accidents and the practicalities of supplements.

If I didn’t discover Zinc, and that I was Zn deficient, i’d probably be dead.

Don’t doctors check for stuff like that, even if you haven’t discovered it for yourself?

Not routinely, unless you have one of the many conditions that can cause deficiency.

transition said:

I guess they tap into some of that alluring abundance you might experience in a large shopping centre, but also have the added power of the witchdoctors prescribing things, along with a culture of medicalization, and having money to (show and) spend eases anxieties too.

A little anecdote while i’m about it, of happy accidents and the practicalities of supplements.

If I didn’t discover Zinc, and that I was Zn deficient, i’d probably be dead.

Then you might wish to distinguish between sucking on galvanised nails, which are coated in zinc, and those nails coated in cadmium.

> My question to people like poik would be, are these products on the shelves because of competition and bottom lines?

That’s sort of an interesting question. To put it another way, are some people so addicted to specific brands of placebos that they will avoid a shop that doesn’t stock them?

I suspect it has to do with public perception. If it’s at a chemist, it’s perceived to be more trustworthy than another shopfront or potentially dodgy website.

>Then you might wish to distinguish between sucking on galvanised nails, which are coated in zinc, and those nails coated in cadmium.

death sticks you mean(?) add radon and whatever

haven’t always smoked

poikilotherm said:

Divine Angel said:

My chemist happens to be next to a grog shop. I suspect that might work better for the parents :)

Would be good to sell grog and cigs, would have them from the very start of escapism to the phlegmy, wheezy, jaundiced end.

there is a pharmacy near us that doubles as a news agency

transition said:

>Then you might wish to distinguish between sucking on galvanised nails, which are coated in zinc, and those nails coated in cadmium.

death sticks you mean(?) add radon and whatever

haven’t always smoked

no’s not what ya meant, just looked it up(learning things today)

roughbarked said:

or should all such products be moved to ‘heath food’ stores? ;)

Why would you want this kind of crap in health food stores?

Maybe labelling is the answer. Just make it law that any of these products have to have a big sticker on the front saying, “WARNING: DOESN’T ACTUALLY DO ANYTHING. YOU SHOULD PROBABLY CONSULT A PHYSICIAN.”

dv said:

roughbarked said:

or should all such products be moved to ‘heath food’ stores? ;)

Why would you want this kind of crap in health food stores?

Maybe labelling is the answer. Just make it law that any of these products have to have a big sticker on the front saying, “WARNING: DOESN’T ACTUALLY DO ANYTHING. YOU SHOULD PROBABLY CONSULT A PHYSICIAN.”

BIG PHARMA STOOGE

dv said:

roughbarked said:

or should all such products be moved to ‘heath food’ stores? ;)

Why would you want this kind of crap in health food stores?

Maybe labelling is the answer. Just make it law that any of these products have to have a big sticker on the front saying, “WARNING: DOESN’T ACTUALLY DO ANYTHING. YOU SHOULD PROBABLY CONSULT A PHYSICIAN.”

Aren’t health food stores full of it anyway?

Yes. Labelling is there for illuminating the reader.

• Maybe labelling is the answer. Just make it law that any of these products have to have a big sticker on the front saying, “WARNING: DOESN’T ACTUALLY DO ANYTHING. YOU SHOULD PROBABLY CONSULT A PHYSICIAN.”

But the industry is resisting a labelling system that would explicitly identify unproven products.

“We have a growing international trade. So if you’re an Asian consumer and you pick up two identical products and the NZ product doesn’t have that disclaimer and ours does, I think you’re actually disadvantaging the Australians,” Mr Gibson said.

furious said:

• Maybe labelling is the answer. Just make it law that any of these products have to have a big sticker on the front saying, “WARNING: DOESN’T ACTUALLY DO ANYTHING. YOU SHOULD PROBABLY CONSULT A PHYSICIAN.”

But the industry is resisting a labelling system that would explicitly identify unproven products.

“We have a growing international trade. So if you’re an Asian consumer and you pick up two identical products and the NZ product doesn’t have that disclaimer and ours does, I think you’re actually disadvantaging the Australians,” Mr Gibson said.

It is not at all uncommon for products to use different labelling for export.

the shelves of half the shops in existence are in-good-part filled with junk.

half of the abundance out there is junk.

to some extent everything works as it does because there’s junk to be bought and sold.

transition said:

the shelves of half the shops in existence are in-good-part filled with junk.

half of the abundance out there is junk.

to some extent everything works as it does because there’s junk to be bought and sold.

I feel all Allie from Mosquito Coast sometimes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mosquito_Coast_(novel)

had a look at that

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mosquito_Coast

don’t know that i’ve seen the movie either