Date: 6/03/2017 07:16:15
From: dv
ID: 1033852
Subject: Annoying, well-meaning viral articles...

Annoying, well-meaning viral articles…

There was one going around a few years back about the Moser Lamp, invented by Aldredo Moser which is a drink bottle filled with water and a little bleach, stuck through the ceiling. The piece said that it produced the equivalent of a 50 W bulb and switched itself off at midnight.

Obv, the most astounding piece of information here is that it switched itself off “at midnight” (ie it was still producing light after the sun went down) and that’s why it got a zillion shares. But it is not true. This is of course just a diffuse light tube. I mean it is a nice simple idea and apparently has helped thousands of poor people so that’s good, so I kind of feel like an arsehole when I tell people who share the article because of this revolutionary idea. They seem so excited.

The one I keep seeing now is about an urban farm in Milwaukee that takes up only 3 acres but feeds 10000 people. The headline is “How to feed 10,000 people on 3 urban acres” and it is this outstanding claim that got the article so many shares. Americans eat around 900 kg in food per day, so this would mean this 3 acre block is producing some 9000 tonnes of food per annum.
Once you look up the details it turns out that this 3 acre block is producing 40 tonnes of food per annum, enough to feed 44 Americans.
I’m not really sure what the authors meant. At first I thought they meant they provided 10000 meals per year (enough to keep 9 people fed), but that doesn’t really add up either. Going by the above, the average meal in America (assuming they are getting three squares) is about 0.8 kg, so this would represent more like 50000 meals per year.
So I don’t know what they mean, really.
When I run through this maths with the supporters they think I’m just knocking but I’m not: this really is a great project, and producing 40 tonnes of food per year on an urban 3 acre block with no artificial lighting is amazing. But something went wrong with the maths.

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Date: 6/03/2017 07:25:21
From: Arts
ID: 1033856
Subject: re: Annoying, well-meaning viral articles...

dv said:


But something went wrong with the maths.

they didn’t use metric?

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Date: 6/03/2017 07:36:09
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1033861
Subject: re: Annoying, well-meaning viral articles...

Americans eat around 900 kg in food per day

here’s a 900kg cheeseburger

No wonder Americans are obese

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Date: 6/03/2017 08:07:41
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1033872
Subject: re: Annoying, well-meaning viral articles...

Damn, T.N beat me to it.

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Date: 6/03/2017 08:13:45
From: sibeen
ID: 1033875
Subject: re: Annoying, well-meaning viral articles...

The Rev Dodgson said:


Damn, T.N beat me to it.

From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1033854
Subject: re: March Chat
Americans eat around 900 kg in food per day,

that explains their obesity problem.

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To be fair, Boris actually got there first, albeit he stuffed up and put it in the wrong thread.

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Date: 6/03/2017 08:15:01
From: dv
ID: 1033876
Subject: re: Annoying, well-meaning viral articles...

That should, of course, have said 900 grams of food per day.

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Date: 6/03/2017 08:15:02
From: roughbarked
ID: 1033877
Subject: re: Annoying, well-meaning viral articles...

How many kj in a stubby of coopers?

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Date: 6/03/2017 08:16:36
From: roughbarked
ID: 1033881
Subject: re: Annoying, well-meaning viral articles...

dv said:


That should, of course, have said 900 grams of food per day.

food?

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Date: 6/03/2017 08:18:39
From: dv
ID: 1033885
Subject: re: Annoying, well-meaning viral articles...

roughbarked said:


How many kj in a stubby of coopers?

544 kJ in a 375 mL Coopers Pale Ale.
http://www.calorieking.com.au/foods/calories-in-beer-original-pale-ale-4-5-alc_f-Y2lkPTQzMjk1JmJpZD0xNjAmZmlkPTY2NDY2JnBhcj0.html

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Date: 6/03/2017 08:21:14
From: roughbarked
ID: 1033889
Subject: re: Annoying, well-meaning viral articles...

dv said:


roughbarked said:

How many kj in a stubby of coopers?

544 kJ in a 375 mL Coopers Pale Ale.
http://www.calorieking.com.au/foods/calories-in-beer-original-pale-ale-4-5-alc_f-Y2lkPTQzMjk1JmJpZD0xNjAmZmlkPTY2NDY2JnBhcj0.html

kewl. Just checking what puts the twins in my belly.

As far as food goes, sparrows eat more.

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Date: 6/03/2017 09:30:04
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1033923
Subject: re: Annoying, well-meaning viral articles...

dv said:


That should, of course, have said 900 grams of food per day.

You were well meaning enough, you just got the maths wrong.

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Date: 6/03/2017 09:33:41
From: dv
ID: 1033924
Subject: re: Annoying, well-meaning viral articles...

Peak Warming Man said:


dv said:

That should, of course, have said 900 grams of food per day.

You were well meaning enough, you just got the maths wrong.

It did not affect the ongoing calculations…

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Date: 6/03/2017 09:34:06
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1033925
Subject: re: Annoying, well-meaning viral articles...

sibeen said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Damn, T.N beat me to it.

From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1033854
Subject: re: March Chat
Americans eat around 900 kg in food per day,

that explains their obesity problem.

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To be fair, Boris actually got there first, albeit he stuffed up and put it in the wrong thread.

actually that was deliberate. I try not to pollute a good thread with my witticisms. so there. with bells on.

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Date: 6/03/2017 09:54:37
From: transition
ID: 1033938
Subject: re: Annoying, well-meaning viral articles...

>When I run through this maths with the supporters they think I’m just knocking but I’m not: this really is a great project, and producing 40 tonnes of food per year on an urban 3 acre block with no artificial lighting is amazing. But something went wrong with the maths.

don’t let some math distract from the entertainment

40,000kg/10,000 = 4kg/person, so if you imagine that in terms of weight of food per day equivalency as a mix of foods (including fluids, like orange juice, milk and whatever), then i’d think it a good days food, probably two or more days really.

if a cereal or whatever and a portion of a meal, say a half of a dried pasta pack (minus water), got one here it’s 120g total, so make that 60g, (.06kg) divided into 40,000kg gives you 666666.66 servings (I just found the devil)

/365 = 1826.48 people (one serving every day) for a year

or 10,000 people one serving every day for 66.66 days.

did I completely fuck that up or what?

i’m dysmathtic

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Date: 6/03/2017 11:06:51
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1033993
Subject: re: Annoying, well-meaning viral articles...

> Annoying, well-meaning viral articles…

That’s why Mythbusters was invented …

.. and Snopes.

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Date: 6/03/2017 11:12:04
From: roughbarked
ID: 1033995
Subject: re: Annoying, well-meaning viral articles...

mollwollfumble said:


> Annoying, well-meaning viral articles…

That’s why Mythbusters was invented …

.. and Snopes.

clear as mud.

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Date: 6/03/2017 14:52:28
From: dv
ID: 1034138
Subject: re: Annoying, well-meaning viral articles...

transition said:

did I completely fuck that up or what?

Well a bit

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